Re: Verifiable Facts: Zaid Hamid and Yousuf Kazzab
^ All I am saying is that these are all 'biyanaat' by Ullimah . Everyone is challenging each other authority and declaring kaffir . I want an authentic writing by Zaid or saying in which he admits this thing . But there is none . Rather in his press conference he is telling otherwise . Just take his freaken words man .
For the matter that he is saying that this ullimah is with me and that , he shouldn't have done that . Getting a certificate of you being muslim from someone else is not classy . But our molanaz have to stop looking into his heart and judge his deen .
Re: Verifiable Facts: Zaid Hamid and Yousuf Kazzab
^ no dear, thats my point. these are not just "bayanaat" by ulema. very solid and recognized proves exist. the audio cassette, the "certificate of khilafat" and other proves were accepted and attested by the Kazzab himself. he accept all those charges in front of court. and that cassette has Zaid Hamid speaking there in, and praising the kazzab. zaid hamid has also publicly supported and defended the kazzab in his videos, if u have not seen those, you can easily google and watch, listen to the audio also cassette of bait-e-raza as well...
but still, if he withdraws, and does taubah... ALLAH qabool karnay walay hain aur wohi sahee baat jantay hain... but he has made himself a very disputed personality.
and as for authentic writings, writings can be faked very easily, videos cannot be faked that easily (though they can be, but he has not claimed those videos to be fake, because he is speaking there himself) so the videos of himself defending kazzab are a bigger prove than he accepting it in writing
Re: Verifiable Facts: Zaid Hamid and Yousuf Kazzab
^ I watched all those videos and he is denying it everywhere . I am also waiting for those cassette that molana never released . I also saw that video where he is apparently praising Yousaf , but not really . He never said that yea you are my naabi or something .
But seriously , our Pakistani society thrives on filthy politics both in religion and otherwise and I won't take it anything more than that .
and i fine it to be preaching exactly the same thing thing zaid hamid is telling. ie we are in period of zawal and the only way out of it is by following Prophet Muhammad’s (saww) teaching and aspiring to be like his sahabas (ra)
Re: Verifiable Facts: Zaid Hamid and Yousuf Kazzab
This gives such a bleak picture of the entire situation in Pakistan. Politically as well as religiously... :/
A complete state of anarchy where we can't even trust our brother let alone someone influential like the Maulanas or for that matter Zaid Hamid himself.
Am still waiting for the truth about him. He has always seemed genuinely sincere. I have loved his interpretations of Iqbal's works as well as Quran and Hadith. Though I really have become skeptical about the entire situation concerning Yousaf Kazzab. Surely Allah knows better.
But the sad part is that if anyone who does even try to take things the right way in the true direction in the light of Islam eventually gets totally degraded ...further demoralising the whole nation ! Where do we go from here !? that's the big question. !! Lost in this total state of anarchy and political instability ...absolutely warped Islamic values and all the possible evils inculcated within us..and growing !
Sorry to say , but our molanaz are kinda jealous of him . The guy repeatedly on media said that its not true what they are saying , but still molanaz are after him . I yet to see one evidence against him . Most of them are just talks , like our politicians do .
I too agree with you, because the undeniable fact is - All Indians (who like it or not hate us all unconditionally) hate Zaid Hamid the most! So on that account alone, I am willing to look over whatever wrong he may have allegedly done in the past (if indeed he did what they say, which I personally doubt). The hardcore Mullahs too I have no respect for, so whatever they say, I will always take with a pinch of salt anyway...
Therefore regardless of what a person's past may be, the real fact is that as long as our sworn enemies (which are Indian) too hate Zaid Hamid - Then he really must be doing something right!
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Anyway please always be mindful of another fact too, which is that most Indians also masquerade as Pakistanis in our chat rooms and forums (to swing our mindset). I have been seeing such Slum-Dogs since the late 1990s. Therefore I request all the moderators over here to please take the time to look up a person's ISP number, to see exactly which part of the world is a person posting from...
Therefore regardless of what a person’s past may be, the real fact is that as long as our sworn enemies (which are Indian) too hate Zaid Hamid - Then he really must be doing something right!
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And why wouldnt they when this mujahid comes out with exceptionally honest lambasts against the current politico ecconomic situation.. and the answers to our problems i dont know how anybody can doubt the intention of this person..
