US or UK???

[risc]

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@Boston

Grass is always greener on the other side … everything has its ups and downs.

The determined ones can make it where ever they are.

They can but I wouldn’t want to live in a society, well maybe I will but not my kids where they cant wear a niqab as the powers be decide it’s evil. Lecturers, school staff have to report what muslim students been upto directly to special branch. I imagine most of this already happening in USA without intervention from academics as larger budgets for security.

[Starsky]

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If you have the academic credentials and are competitive enough then getting a good job shouldn’t be a problem in the UK. And if you have a good job then living costs shouldn’t be a problem either.
Then again I’m speaking as someone who was born here so everything was handed to me on a silver platter. I don’t know how tough it must be for someone from abroad, but its best to avoid living in London if you are, or don’t have a good job paying >20k after taxes. We do pay very high taxes but you get free education and heath treatment in return.

My guess is its a more luxurious lifestyle in the US or Canada because of the larger houses and everything seems more spacious and less congested. But life in the UK is hugely enjoyable because the muslim communities are clustered together so theres always ppl with the same beliefs/morals/lifestlye near you so you’ll never feel lonely or bored. Theres always tons to do.

However the downside is uncontrolled immigration which is having a serious effect on many people’s lifestyle. Crime (gun, fraud, prostitution) is on the rise as a direct result of immigration and then you have to put up with the lack of morals/ettiquettes that comes with immigrants (namely Nigerians and eastern europeans)

[legbreakgoogly]

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East European women are the hottest in the world. More the merrier I say.

[Antumul_alona]

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@Boston

ahmadjee bought up a great point. Healthcare is a major issue in US. Even when you have health insurance, it does cap out very fast if you run into major health issues. And unfortunately you cannot qualify for goverment healthcare until you have sold off all your assests and have gone bankcrupt.

In comaprison to US, in UK healthcare professionals do not make lot of money. The do it for the love of profession. And even thou the UK system is overburdened it does work and provides in all circumtances. A friend of mine in UK is going through hard times and doctor and nurses have visited her at home. If the same case was in US, they would have first ask for insurance and then told you to call 911, i.e. emergency.

dat troo!! :k:

[richie4u]

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^^ I agree with ahmadjee, Boston and Antumul they have brought very good points. Theinsider i don't know where you getting your information from but that definately is not correct. I myself have lived in London for 3 yrs and now in USA from last 5 yrs but I have had no problem with someone discriminating me. However there are more cases in UK where Muslims are victim especially after 7/7 and recent airplane issues.

[Mr_Fraudia]

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richie more cases, but when u look at it as as per capita they are less

[system]

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@Antumul alona

What …do you live here in the US or what…? your experience is extremely surprising…
I have been here for 10 years now, no problems…Alhamdolillah…yes after 911 ppl have been injected with rubbish on the tube…but Alhamdolillah no problems with jobs, or discrimination any where…

where u getting this from ?..

I left for pakistan, came back ridiculed by fellow pakis for being a practicing muslim, and here in the US the goras gave me a job in my own engineering field again, respected my right to pray five times, gave me a day off for Friday prayers, printed my article on Ramadhan in the office newletter, brought in non-meat food for me to eat with them, defended me when some one in the facility where I work displayed something offensive and made them take it down
where as in the uk after 7/7 and even before the racism of the real goras of england is a shame.

:k:

[safehands46]

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USA.....Riverside,CA

I am Business Econ and Political Science.

I have many career paths but law seems like my calling.

[PRINCESS25]

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@inzi_rocks

^ don't 4get the tweenies and alum rock road

Alum Rock Road.. I'm sorry- forget that!!! not for me..I love london toooooo much. I have family in In Birmingham and trust me all love & respect to them but I really can't stand the Alum rock area.

[PRINCESS25]

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@Boston

Grass is always greener on the other side ... everything has its ups and downs.

The determined ones can make it where ever they are.

Very well said...life is what you make it..you wanna be something go out & do it!!! you came into this world alone & you will leave alone. Sometimes you gotta make sacrifices to get what you want- You just gotta to be willing. chill!!! n enjoy what you have & not what you haven't.

[PRINCESS25]

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@Shaulabar

Thanks everyone for your comments!

When you say that UK has high taxes, what do you mean? Can you quantify or give an example? Say your salary is between 30-50K pounds, how much would you pay in taxes? What about 50-80K pounds?

Also, while we are talking about salary, how much would you say you'd need to earn to live decently in UK (London)? (decently=not have to worry about what you buy when you go grocery shopping, and be able to have an apt in a safe and pretty area)

Are salaries in UK quoted before or after tax?

Anything upto 32k is taxed at a basic rate of 20% anything above 32k is taxed at 40%.
the thing with the UK especially London there are expenses left right & centre. if you're living with parents then thats great..otherwise forget living a comfortable life- buying what you want when you want doesn't really happen unless you're wealthy or earning 40k+.

[Amber11]

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@PRINCESS25

Very well said…life is what you make it..you wanna be something go out & do it!!! you came into this world alone & you will leave alone. Sometimes you gotta make sacrifices to get what you want- You just gotta to be willing. chill!!! n enjoy what you have & not what you haven’t.

Very Wellsaid Princess…very well said…Absolutely right

[Shaulabar]

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Thanks everyone for your input and a special thanks to ahmadjee and princess25 for your comments on UK taxes.

I do believe that ultimately individuals with plenty of ambition and drive will further themselves regardless of their geographical location.

However, not all living situations are created equal...If you only had to be ambitious to achieve what you wanted, then the world would be a very easy place to live in. Unfortunately, the world is simply not that perfect....not to mention the fact that if you truly are an ambitious individual, then the definition of "what you want" will always be an ever-shifting target.

Frankly I think that life may be easier in certain countries rather than others depending on your specific occupation, tastes, and needs as well as local laws and regulations.

For concrete examples of how the fabric of society may influence the quality of life one may look at issues of corruption and its relation to a meritocratic system, or at immigration laws, economic policies, or social justice and regulations, just to name a few.