Who is the bigger terrorist then?
With a shutdown of Iraqi civilians counting Iraqi civilians, the denial would be complete. The senior White House official said, “Let’s remember who’s killing Iraqi citizens.” The evidence is appallingly clear that the White House is really saying “Let’s forget.”
Ahh yes, inaction would have left Saddam in power but U.S. action has led to the capture of Saddam Hussein today, a great day indeed.
"We are celebrating like it's a wedding," said Kirkuk resident Mustapha Sheriff. "We are finally rid of that criminal."
"This is the joy of a lifetime," said Ali Al-Bashiri, another resident. "I am speaking on behalf of all the people that suffered under his rule."
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Ahh yes, inaction would have left Saddam in power...
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Yes, it was cause of Saddam the following war crimes by the American's are being carried in a country he has probably never been to...
Twice this month, six and nine children apiece were killed in bungled US raids in Afghanistan
UTD is making his usual excuses for justifying the killing of tens of thousands of innocent civilians by the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It is not Saddam's people that have killed tens of thousands of Iraqi's in the last nine months, it is the US military. And it is the American military that has killed many, many thousands in Afghanistan since the ousting of the Taliban, not any other group.
The American's are the biggest terrorists by far, at least three time more than those people who carried out the 9/11 attacks. That's a fact.
Yes U.S. is just a dirty whore isn't she haha. Inaction that was supported here killed people, you choose to ignore that, but as we have discuss this before we can agree to disagree. :) The victory of today will help lead the Iraqi to a period of peace and stability.
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Nice of you to post smilies to a thread about the killing of at least three times more civilians being killed by the US military in Afghanistan and Iraq, than the 9/11 attacks.
If someone had done that after 9/11 you would have been all over complaining...
This I posted in a another thread back in June…
Astonshing admisions by the US soldiers. One has to read the full interview ‘I just pulled the trigger’](This is London Magazine) to realise that this is fast becoming another Vietnam for the American forces in Iraq.
US troops ‘shoot civilians’
American soldiers in Iraq today make the astonishing admission that they regularly kill civilians. In a series of disturbing interviews which throws light on the chaos gripping the country, GIs also confess to leaving wounded Iraqi fighters to die, and even to shooting injured enemy soldiers. They say they are frequently confronted by fighters dressed as civilians, including women. Their response is often to shoot first and ask questions later, even when it means killing genuine civilians. Yesterday, US troops killed at least one man and injured three others during a demonstration in Baghdad by former Iraqi soldiers protesting at not being paid for two months. US troops first fired into the air and then into the crowd after the demonstrators began throwing stones and bricks.
In the worsening cycle of violence, American tactics like these are feeding the resentment of many Iraqis who object to the occupation of their country. US troops are facing a growing number of hitandrun guerrilla attacks and more than 40 soldiers have been killed since George Bush declared the war over seven weeks ago. The threat American soldiers feel was illustrated today when a coalition-run humanitarian aid office north of Baghdad was shelled, killing one Iraqi worker and wounded 12. The attack represents a tactical shift by the guerillas as they target fellow Iraqis deemed to be too close to the allies. One of the soldiers interviewed by the Evening Standard, Specialist Anthony Castillo, of the 3/15th US Infantry, said: “When there were civilians there, we did the mission that had to be done. When they were there, they were at the wrong spot, so they were considered enemy.” The soldiers are furious that their commanders have reneged on promises to send them home as soon as the war was won and are now forcing them into the role of peacekeepers. The interviews will make troubling reading for US and British politicians and senior military staff desperate to pacify the country and impose order before a transfer to a civilian government run by Iraqis.
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The Associated Press reported back in June that at least 3,240 Iraqi civilians were killed in the first month of the American invasion. The AP reported that the "great majority of civilian deaths appear to have been caused by US or British attacks." The AP said its tally was "fragmentary" with the real figure probably "significantly" higher.
In October, the Project on Defense Alternatives estimated the number of civilian deaths during the invasion to range between 3,200 and 4,300. Last month, Medact, the British wing of the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, which won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1985, published a report that estimated between 5,708 and 7,356 civilians died during the invasion and an additional 2,049 to 2,209 have died in the occupation.
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All this as a revenge for WTC ? Terrorism is not an answer to terrorism. What did those innocent civilians ever do to US?
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All this as a revenge for WTC ? Terrorism is not an answer to terrorism. What did those innocent civilians ever do to US?
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Yes, what did they do? How many Afghans and Iraq's were on those planes that crashed into the WTC, for them to be so mercilessly slaughtered by the American's in such HUGE numbers?
This is all evidence of a simplistic mind at work. "3000 of us were killed, so we had better kill thousdands of "them" "
This is why I fear a unipolar world under the leadership of the USA. Self-righteousness has a tendency to blind one's self to the horror that one unleashes upon the innocent.
I honestly wonder how many of the Afghan villager killed by US munitions even knew what the Unites States of America is?
Hooray - Does this mean India is no longer on top of the list of countries that have killed most Muslim Civilians.
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This is all evidence of a simplistic mind at work. "3000 of us were killed, so we had better kill thousdands of "them" "
This is why I fear a unipolar world under the leadership of the USA. Self-righteousness has a tendency to blind one's self to the horror that one unleashes upon the innocent.
I honestly wonder how many of the Afghan villager killed by US munitions even knew what the United States of America is?
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Yes, and what did those tens of thousands of Afghans and Iraqi's that have been massacred by the US military have to do with the 9/11 attacks?
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Ahh yes, inaction would have left Saddam in power but U.S. action has led to the capture of Saddam Hussein today, a great day indeed.
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...and precisely the same inaction is keeping Aerial Sharon in power, a person who refuses to give basic rights to Palestinians and bombs their houses. He's so much more dangerous than Saddam ever was. Why not catch him and topple the whole Israeli govt? I dont know how one can defend American foreign policy and not feel guilty of crime against humanity.
Iraq/Afghanistan are just the way they were before US attacked. In some cases, worse. Press is muzzled in both countries, children, women, old men, HUMANS are being killed in dozens, there is no drinking water, infrastructure has been further destroyed by the great US co-alition forces, and the only infrastrucuture that is being rebuilt profits the pockets of Dicks in US admin, civic amenities have evaporated, there is no security for life, female abduction and rape has become common place in Afghanistan. So has the poppy culture. and the list goes on.
The only reason America attacked and killed so many innocent civilians is because it suited its own interests not because it wanted to liberate the Iraqis/Afghanis. Yet there is no accountability. American.
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*The only reason America attacked and killed so many innocent civilians is because it suited its own interests not because it wanted to liberate the Iraqis/Afghanis. Yet there is no accountability. American. *
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Yes, and that is why resistance to the American terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq is massively on the increase in recent months. That is why we have had American soldiers shoot down and kill Iraqi demonstrators calling for US to get out of Iraq.
What really startles me, and I am sure most people, is how a small extremist fringe of American's defends the US military when it kills little Afghan or Iraqi babies and children, or murders who families?
I think we all know the answer to that question. And it’s not India or US.
If we use Pearl Harbor as a comparison, relatively few were killed. But it started a chain reaction of events to make sure that it would not happen again. It put the US at war, just like the events of 9/11.
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If we use Pearl Harbor as a comparison, relatively few were killed.
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Tens of thousands of Afghans and Iraqi's killed by the US military is relatively few for you? Well then I should not be suprised with your comments, as you consider a lot of people ugly, especially if they are Muslims.
Sem, don't bother with Malik, he's pissed about the United States military successful capture of Saddam. His policy of inaction is responsible for Saddams killings, while it would be nice to think that you could snap ones fingers and make Saddam disappear this wasn't possible, in the end more people lived because the United States and Britain took action.
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Sem, don't bother with Malik, he's pissed about the United States military successful capture of Saddam.
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Hardly, as unlike you I never lose my temper, personally insult peoples faiths and their character like you have so many times. Keep going.
But once again you are trying to dismiss the mass terrorism of the US military against the Afghan and Iraqi people, cause it shows your true extremist leanings. Thankfully the majority of American people don't support their terrorist President and his extremist supporters...
Thank you for once again coming in a thread about the mass killings of Afghan and Iraqi civilians, and using smilies. Though it does not top your postings where you have called people ugly, espcially Muslims…