Re: US ‘Marines’ Cheer Song About Killing Iraqi Civilians (children)
Their leader ‘The Decider - Bush’ does not portray him or his army as enemies. C’mon, they are the Liberators and Friends building Iraq ![]()
Re: US ‘Marines’ Cheer Song About Killing Iraqi Civilians (children)
Their leader ‘The Decider - Bush’ does not portray him or his army as enemies. C’mon, they are the Liberators and Friends building Iraq ![]()
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Shouldn't they all be shot . I dun care if they are doing it in the line of duty or whatever, I dun care if they are well-spoken or well mannered. The fact remains that they have killed inncoent children and men and owmen of a coutry they have no right to be in. If the Iraqis decide to kill them then its their right because they are being killed as well. Tit for tat and its as simple as that.
No excuse in the wolrd would ever make it right.
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You're right Mywish. There IS no excuse...but for all of that, we are ALL human. If you found yourself in their shoes, you just may end up doing the same. Sad but true, not excusable but there it is...War does really ugly things to people - I do not "justify" it because what's wrong is wrong. I DO however, try to UNDERSTAND where its coming from and therefore am more able to figure out what needs to be done to correct it!
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Perhaps I have read differently (i.e. with an open mind). I don’t see the last sentence as a justification for the behaviour. I see it as an explanation for it. That is an entirely different thing.
By explaining why the marines behaved the way they did, she is not suggesting that it is acceptable. She is merely helping the reader to see a cause that he/she may not have considered. In other words, she is saying that these folks are not inherently evil, they are spiritually and ethically lost souls.
That’s how I read it.
On a final note…it’s funny how ppl will read two paragraphs where 99% of the comments are against the actions of the marines, but they will selectively focus their attention on the last line which might be interpretted differently. ![]()
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Thank you ms Muzna. You're right and no one can ever know how they'd react until they're faced with it....I mean, I HATE all kinds of bugs but if I were marooned on a desert island with nothing to eat but bugs, heck I think I'd eat them once I got hungry enough....never say never, you know? Walk a mile in THEIR shoes and THEN opine.
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Sooth yourself however you want but the explanation, by far, contradicts with the history. Perhaps, it best fits with the history in context with non-believers in a WAR.
HERE IS the newest press release from CAIR:
‘HADJI GIRL’ MARINE APOLOGIZES TO MUSLIMS
NC Marine: ‘I apologize for any feelings that may have been hurt in the Muslim community’
**(WASHINGTON, D.C., 6/14/06) **- The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today welcomed an apology by a U.S. Marine who posted a song on the Internet that the group, and Pentagon officials, termed “insensitive” and “inappropriate.”
Cpl. Joshua Belile, who lives in North Carolina and recently returned from duty in Iraq, says the “Hadji Girl” video describing an encounter with an Iraqi woman posted on youtube.com in March was just a “joke.”
The song’s lyrics included: “I grabbed her little sister and put her in front of me. As the bullets began to fly, the blood sprayed from between her eyes, and then I laughed maniacally. . .I blew those little fkers to eternity. . .They should have known they were fking with the Marines.”
Belile said that he apologizes to anyone who may have been offended by the lyrics. He told the Jacksonville Daily News: “I apologize for any feelings that may have been hurt in the Muslim community. This song was written in good humor and not aimed at any party, foreign or domestic. . .I will never perform this song again, and I will remove all video and text in relation to this that I have control of.”
SEE: Humor Attempt Falls Flat (Jacksonville Daily News)
**SEE: **Military Condemns Music Video On Killing Iraqis (Reuters)
SEE: '](http://www.cair.com/video/marine-hadji-girl.wmv) Hadji Girl’ Video
(The video’s audio is slightly out of synchronization.)
“We welcome Corporal Belile’s apology and will leave it to military authorities to determine whether any disciplinary action is warranted,” said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad. “Our intent was never to target an individual Marine, but instead to address the larger issue of insensitivity to the suffering of Iraqi civilians.”
Awad repeated his call for congressional hearings on the behavior of American military personnel in Iraq and in other Muslim nations such as Afghanistan.
CAIR, America’s largest Muslim civil liberties group, has 32 offices and chapters nationwide and in Canada. Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.
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Re: US 'Marines' Cheer Song About Killing Iraqi Civilians (children)
What I cannot understand is that why Iraqis are allowing American troops on their soil. It has been three years since the war, and the U.S. still have a huge presence there. It just seems rather odd.
It would be interesting to know how the people of Iraq feel about this song and their humanity, especially who get their head blown off.
Ahh, in the end you can always apologize...
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Ignorant people do ignorant things to express their anger or joy.
Remember the people shooting in the air celebrating when 9/11 happened? While wearing t-shirts from the NFL teams. Yeah yeah, I know the film was doctored, it was from some other reason they were shooting in the air, etc. etc. We all can make excuses.
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Those who defend Pali suicide bombers use the same retarded 'logic', only difference is the marines choose to put themselves in that situation because they are motivated by greed and evil nationalism whilst Palis weren't given any such choice and are driven by desperation.
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The marines do not choose to put themselves there.
The commander in chief and the voting american public choose to put them there.
There is no logic to this…the marine should be docked pay, penalized, made an example of…just so that no other ever thinks of singing such filth.
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Why join the army at all? Especially when they know the great 'good' they will be doing?
Look at the guy in Lajawabs post, that guy obviously doesn't mind killing a few sand nigger camel jockeys as long as in return he gets pampered, all his needs met and a good salary.
Such people are terrorist swines, as are the "Muslim" terrorists, both deserve whatever comes their way, I've no sympathy for them or their smelly lil families high on patriotism.
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It would be interesting to know how the people of Iraq feel about this song and their humanity, especially who get their head blown off.
Ahh, in the end you can always apologize...
Same reason Busharraf is doing it...
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Faruk, the core duty of a solider is to follow orders. Thats their job.
You can't curse the Iraqi soldiers who fought for years with Iran, or the ones who invaded Kuwait. Or the Pakistanis who are bombing their own in the back yard. That what they are told to do. If they have a choice, its between putting food on the table or not going to work. Thats a choice we all make every day.
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Really…!!!
Boy aren’t we the lazy-asses not to take advantage of this opportunity.
I wonder how they got their at first place. Maybe, they threathened to nuke us too if we didn’t obey…blackmail and pressure, the American way. No?
Let’s be reasonable and blame Muslims for this.
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The terrorist marines definitely put themselves in that situation, by joining the army in the first place, knowing full well that they might end up fighting a war (or murdering thousands is more like it). They didn’t join the army looking forward to washing cars.
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This song was not a direct order from the high command; it was rather intentional and hence the subject of the thread. Do not go offtopic ![]()
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I wonder if a muslim sang that song what would the reaction be and what would media potray it as?
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Well, at least Muslims aren't making any videos that would be offensive to others, like perhaps a beheading video or two.....oh wait!
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You can't curse the Iraqi soldiers who fought for years with Iran, or the ones who invaded Kuwait. Or the Pakistanis who are bombing their own in the back yard. That what they are told to do. If they have a choice, its between putting food on the table or not going to work. Thats a choice we all make every day.
I'm a humanist, excuses aside I hate all such people who kill innocents (be it Jewish school children or Pali kids) whatever their reason or motivation be it personal greed (as is the case with oil hungry goverments and the guy in Lajawabs post), misintrepreation of religion ('Muslim' terrorists) or misplaced blind passionate patriotism (marines etc.)..
I hate Pakis who killed Bengalis, I hate Iraqis who killed Kurds (read a book about them when I was 8-9 'kiss the dust', they remind me of my own people in the mountains).
You can't have your cake and eat it too, these guys shouldn't expect to be called angels if they're willing to murder innocents just to put food on the table, there's other ways of doing that.
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ahmadjee kahin aap bhi to marine sharine nahi amrica main........
may Allah help iraqi,palestinian and all the Muslims in the world.