Aatif yaar, where did I make fun of this guy! I have always just presented a valid point! I have just presented my point where I have been played the religuous card!
Waisay I absolutely agree with you on the part where Hadith are interpretations! Check and see my post above!
u ppl are startin to fight like kittens..
there is no point in fighting , over a irrelevent topic..
peace..
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Originally posted by Aatif:
***ukhalil11* - thanks for the facts. but hadiths are just the interpretations of what Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said, isnt it? And if you are the follower of Allah, then you know that He mentioned in the holy Quran to follow Him and His book only. I am not saying that hadiths are wrong. They "can" be correct. But I personally would follow Quran. If music was haraam and Muslims were not allowed to sing or hear music, then it must've been mentioned in the Quran. Dont you think?? Oh well, I am not trying to have an argument here. But I just want to have a fair talk on this issue coz I never thought it was haraam. Now after reading all the info from the links u provided, I am a lill doubtful. But if you see my point, DONT u think if hearing music was SUCH a big issue ... how could Allah just not mention it in Quran, and why do we read about it in Hadiths? So think about it. And before u say anything, I suggest u ask the same question to an Islamic scholar as well. If there are ppl around who care to share their thoughts on this matter, then they are most welcome to.
Alibeta and Ukhalil11 - Stop acting like kids and calling each other names! Its better if we all not make fun of each other and rather share knowledge with people. If you think someone said something wrong, then try to correct him/her. Hope you guys get my point. Grow up now!
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True but listen, prophet mohammed(PBUH) has said that music is Al-haram! He has said it himself. Now I am aware of the fact it's not mentioned in the quran but common man, we all know music is Al-haram! It's common sense. I have provided some links and since some of you aren't satiesfied so I am gonna try getting some other links which will clearly indicate everything.
Ok, let's suppose music isn't haram but is it necessary listening to it? Instead of wasting your time on that, I am sure there are a lot of personal things to do so why not give more time to that. Get what I am tryin to say here?
BUT where does it says clearly that music isn't forbidden in islam? No where! So this is kind a doubtful, and it's better not to assume stuff which are doubtful.
I can just try to get you guys on the right... trying is always worth it... I guess..
khuda hafiz
ok I dont know if anyone has already mentioned this but FYI Will Smith utilises Method Acting just like Marlon Brando, Robert DeNeiro, Sean Penn and countless others. In method acting you try to develop the character by adopting his/her lifestyle as much as you can. So if your character is muslim, you convert to islam, and learn more about it and then you revert back to your religion; if it says you have to be mentally ill you go to a hospital for special people and spend sometime with them, observe them and use what you learnt on screen..Coppish?
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Originally posted by ukhalil11:
** True but listen, prophet mohammed(PBUH) has said that music is Al-haram! He has said it himself. Now I am aware of the fact it's not mentioned in the quran but common man, we all know music is Al-haram! It's common sense. I have provided some links and since some of you aren't satiesfied so I am gonna try getting some other links which will clearly indicate everything.
Ok, let's suppose music isn't haram but is it necessary listening to it? Instead of wasting your time on that, I am sure there are a lot of personal things to do so why not give more time to that. Get what I am tryin to say here?
BUT where does it says clearly that music isn't forbidden in islam? No where! So this is kind a doubtful, and it's better not to assume stuff which are doubtful.
I can just try to get you guys on the right... trying is always worth it... I guess..
khuda hafiz **
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Well, you never "waste" your time listening to music! Do you? Music is soothing at times, and you can also work while listening to music! Cant you? So I personally dont think there is anything wrong with it as it doesnt go against religion. And truly I was unaware of the fact that something is mentioned in hadiths against music. I guess if you think about it, there is no harm at all in listening to music. If you see, everything thats forbidden in Islam is for a reason! Ya? Drinking, eating pork, anything ... so whats the reason music was forbidden? So unless I get some good believable evidence about this, how am I gona believe music is haram??? Oh well. I guess I will talk about it with some scholars.
If you think it is haraam! I have a simple solution for you! DONT LISTEN TO IT! Do not implement your points of view on others! I like music and I will keep on listening to it! And a person without any knowledge of the deen like you cannot influence me into not listeing to it!
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Originally posted by ukhalil11:
** True but listen, prophet mohammed(PBUH) has said that music is Al-haram! He has said it himself. Now I am aware of the fact it's not mentioned in the quran but common man, we all know music is Al-haram! It's common sense. I have provided some links and since some of you aren't satiesfied so I am gonna try getting some other links which will clearly indicate everything.
Ok, let's suppose music isn't haram but is it necessary listening to it? Instead of wasting your time on that, I am sure there are a lot of personal things to do so why not give more time to that. Get what I am tryin to say here?
BUT where does it says clearly that music isn't forbidden in islam? No where! So this is kind a doubtful, and it's better not to assume stuff which are doubtful.
I can just try to get you guys on the right... trying is always worth it... I guess..
khuda hafiz **
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Originally posted by Aatif:
***ukhalil11* - thanks for the facts. but hadiths are just the interpretations of what Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said, isnt it? And if you are the follower of Allah, then you know that He mentioned in the holy Quran to follow Him and His book only. I am not saying that hadiths are wrong. They "can" be correct. But I personally would follow Quran. If music was haraam and Muslims were not allowed to sing or hear music, then it must've been mentioned in the Quran. Dont you think?? Oh well, I am not trying to have an argument here. But I just want to have a fair talk on this issue coz I never thought it was haraam. Now after reading all the info from the links u provided, I am a lill doubtful. But if you see my point, DONT u think if hearing music was SUCH a big issue ... how could Allah just not mention it in Quran, and why do we read about it in Hadiths? So think about it. And before u say anything, I suggest u ask the same question to an Islamic scholar as well. If there are ppl around who care to share their thoughts on this matter, then they are most welcome to.
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Aatif**
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are u aware of the fact that for a muslim Quran and Hadith are equally important.. u cant deny one or the other..
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** are u aware of the fact that for a muslim Quran and Hadith are equally important.. u cant deny one or the other..**
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PERFECTLY SAID! but ahmed said hadeeths are BS! (Astaqfiruallah)
Jhoote mat bolo! Islam teaches another thing called. That lying is haraam! Aahmed said that Hadeeth are interpretations by the Sahaba of what the Prophet (PBUH) had to say! Dont lie alright.
You love to sensationalize stuff! Now go ahead and call me Ahmedi or shia or whatever... Like you always do!
People who consider music haraam should stop listening to it.. PERIOD.
Next time you listen to it.. just think how rotten a hypocrite you are.
Besides, no one received a license from God to impose their moral values on others.. so keep your views to yourself and for the Copy Paste Forum (more commonly known as the Religion Forum).
The Mothership is now boarding
Ukhalail, you must be such an idiot to believe in that... hahahaha
BTW, do you even know who Muslims in America consider their Prophet? Its Elijah Mohammad... Their Nation of Islam is alot different than our Islam. Before jumping like a rabbit on fake news (which pleases you just becoz u hear the name Islam in it), you should do some research on whatever you might come accross. I hope you were not amongst the few Mollahs in the 'Jang' Staff who kept on declaring Michaeal Jackson became a Muslim and Armstrong heard 'Azan' on the moon.
As for this rumour, it was like so long ago, and this stupid link u gave, its A USER COMMENT AREA!!! There are lots of perverts on the net that go on pasting false news, doesnt mean that they are all correct.
gROW uP
Check this out yara!! hahaha
Originally posted by ukhalil11:
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True but listen, prophet mohammed(PBUH) has said that music is Al-haram!
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Ok, point taken... (without proof ofcourse)
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He has said it himself.
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Ok, but wasnt that what you said in ur last statement?
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Now I am aware of the fact it's not mentioned in the quran but common man, we all know music is Al-haram! It's common sense.
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Ok, if the Quran does not stop you from doing something, you can tell others to stop doing it through 'Ukhalils common sense'
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I have provided some links and since some of you aren't satiesfied so I am gonna try getting some other links which will clearly indicate everything.
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Just like the links from IMDB, the user comment areas... hehehe
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Ok, let's suppose music isn't haram but is it necessary listening to it? Instead of wasting your time on that, I am sure there are a lot of personal things to do so why not give more time to that. Get what I am tryin to say here?
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No we do not get what you are saying, IF MUSIC IS NOT HARAM, THEN TUMHE KYA TAKLEEF HAI? Tera bill aaata hai jo tujhe takleef hai? If its not haram, what problems do u have? Maybe you ought to look at your mollah brothers in Pakistan, who do not listen to music, but goto netcafes (which have spurred up) and watch u know what. And dont tell me they dont, I have seen them with my own eyes, netcafe waloon ki amden hi ab is tarha hoti hai.
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I can just try to get you guys on the right... trying is always worth it... I guess..
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Spare us of that misery. There are much more intelligent, rational people who undestand Islam way way way better than you. All you know is Islam means killing goras; worshipping osama and Pakistans rockets. And latest addition -> music haraam. Whats next? Mullah Omer for Caliph?
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Since the thread relates to a show business personality (and music) so it is being transferred to Shor Sharaba.
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