They're busy shifting the blame to America.
Why aren’t the pictures of terror inflicted upon blacks by arabs being shown in the media? Or the sotires of black’s being kept as slaves by the arabs who stole them as children. This is far far worse then anything happening in Iraq right now. And the Arab countries are supportive of Sudan’s government and it’s terrorist militias!
UN Finds Sudan’s Darfur Region Scorched by Terror
Fri May 7, 3:17 PM ET Add World - Reuters to My Yahoo!
By Irwin Arieff
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - A scorched-earth campaign by Arab militias to drive black Africans out of Sudan’s Darfur region has spread in its wake hunger, homelessness and deprivation so crippling it is common to find three women sharing a single dress, senior U.N. officials said on Friday.
“One, there is a rein of terror in this area. Two, there is a scorched-earth policy. Three, there are repeated war crimes and crimes against humanity, and four, this is taking place before our very eyes,” said Bertrand Ramcharan, the acting U.N. high commissioner for human rights.
Ramcharan and James Morris, head of the World Food Program, spoke to reporters after briefing the 15-nation Security Council on twin U.N. missions they led to the region after Sudan’s government, which has played down the crisis and denied responsibility, invited them in after initially balking.
Sudan, backed by Arab and African governments and Russia, had lobbied hard to keep its internal affairs off the council agenda, obliging it to discuss the crisis in a closed session without any public signal it was doing so.
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Well they shoudnt take slaves from the Muslim communities atleast.
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It's ok to take slaves from the non muslim communities then?
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Course not, but its even worse when you harm your own people is it not?
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According to Islam, slavery is evil, no matter the victim. This hasn't stopped the arabs before and not now apparently.
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Dont know what Islam you follow, but slavery is allowed on conditions. You just cant enslave Muslims, thats an arrangement I'm ok with.
its very sad arab muslims against african muslims
This is so sad....
Just for good measure…now back to Iraq threads.
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UN and US warn that huge toll in Darfur crisis is now inevitable
GENEVA (AFP) - A humanitarian crisis of enormous proportions is now inevitable in western Sudan’s Darfur region and up to one million people could die if aid cannot be delivered there swiftly, international officials warned.
“We estimate right now if we get relief in, we’ll lose a third of a million people, and if we don’t the death rates could be dramatically higher, approaching a million people,” said US Agency for International Development (USAID) chief Andrew Natsios after a high-level UN aid meeting.
“That’s just a prediction, we don’t know for sure, we pray it’s not true,” he added.
More than one million African civilians have been forced to flee their homes because of an onslaught by government-backed Arab militia and Sudanese troops in the largely desert region over the past year, and atrocities are continuing, the United Nations (news - web sites) said.
Another 700,000 to 800,000 more people in Darfur are likely to run out of what they need to survive within months, the UN added as it increased its estimate of the number of victims.
Some 150,000 Sudanese refugees have fled across the border to Chad, 50,000 more than previously estimated.
The United States, European Union (news - web sites) and United Nations also warned Sudan that it must put a stop to atrocities by militia in the strife-torn region, and iron out “severe restrictions” which are still hampering aid deliveries.
“We admit we are late. Constraints have been so great, some agencies have been so slow, some donors have been so slow, the government restrictions have been so many,” said UN Under Secretary General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland.
“And the Janjawid militia have been so harsh on the populations that we will have a humanitarian crisis of enormous proportions even in the best of circumstances,” he warned.
Egeland said the United Nations faced a funding gap of about 236 million dollars for aid in the region until the end of the year.
But the United States pledged 188 million dollars at the meeting in Geneva and the European Union’s Commission said it would come up with 10 million euros more on top of the 37 million euros it had already paid out for aid.
Officials were adamant that the pressure was firmly on Sudan’s government, amid the “most violent, mean-spirited kind of human conduct imaginable” in Darfur, said World Food Programme (WFP) chief James Morris.
Representing the European Union, Ireland’s Minister for Development, Tom Kitt, said: “We must also send a strong unequivocal message to the Sudanese government that it live up to its obligations to protect its citizens and in accordance with the ceasefire agreement, disarm the militia and give access”.
Earlier, the advocacy group Human Rights Watch said the high level meeting would fail to tackle the root cause of the suffering in Darfur if they just agreed on aid deliveries.
“Humanitarian aid is urgent but it is not enough. A political solution is necessary: the Sudanese government’s ethnic cleansing must not stand,” HRW director Kenneth Roth said here.
At least 10,000 people have been killed in Darfur since rebels rose up in February 2003, prompting an assault by government forces and their militia allies.
The meeting in Geneva brought donors, Sudanese and Chad officials, Darfur rebel groups, the United Nations and aid agencies.
A catastrophe is now unavoidable in Sudan’s Darfur region, the United Nations and aid workers say.
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The UN fears hundreds of thousands will die in Darfur
‘Thousands starving in Darfur’](BBC NEWS | Africa | 'Thousands starving in Darfur') BBC 04 Jun 04
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Where does the responsibility lie in Sudan?
IN thread upon thread here we get anti-US and western rhetoric lobbed daily. I was reading this article today in the NYtimes by Nick Kristoff about Sudan and I wondered how come the Arab and Muslim world doesn;t send a militia to Sudan to rid the perpatrators of genocide.
Why should this be the west’s responsiblity? At least there is a dialogue in the west, a call to action or something..in the muslim word, mum is the word. Hypocricy, I think so!!! I think the freedom fighters from Phiippines to US should band together and liberate the africans from these murderous arabs. whaddaya say?
Slavery in this day and age??? Sickening!!!
Note: Chances are the mods will bury this in the Sudan thread, but this more than informational. Hopefully the stalwarths can provide some insight into the abdication of responsibility. I feel that I had to write this because there are 900 threads on Iraq but all Sudanese issues are pushed under one.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/16/opinion/16KRIS.html
Dare We Call It Genocide?
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: June 16, 2004
ALONG THE CHAD-SUDAN BORDER — The Bush administration says it is exploring whether to describe the mass murder and rape in the Darfur region of Sudan as “genocide.” I suggest that President Bush invite to the White House a real expert, Magboula Muhammad Khattar, a 24-year-old widow huddled under a tree here.
The world has acquiesced shamefully in the Darfur genocide, perhaps because 320,000 deaths this year (a best-case projection from the U.S. Agency for International Development) seems like one more boring statistic. So listen to Ms. Khattar’s story, multiply it by hundreds of thousands, and let’s see if we still want to look the other way.
Just a few months ago, Ms. Khattar had a great life. Her sweet personality and lovely appearance earned a hefty bride price of 40 cattle when she was married four years ago to Ali Daoud, a prosperous farmer. The family owned 300 cattle and 50 camels, making them among the wealthiest in their village, Ab-Layha in western Sudan. Ms. Khattar promptly bore two children, the youngest born late last year.
About the same time, though, the Sudanese government resolved to crush a rebellion in Darfur, a region the size of France in western Sudan. Sudan armed and paid a militia of Arab raiders, the Janjaweed, and authorized them to slaughter and drive out members of the Zaghawa, Masalit and Fur tribes.
On March 12, Ms. Khattar was performing her predawn Muslim prayers about 4 a.m. when a Sudanese government Antonov aircraft started dropping bombs on Ab-Layha, which is made up of Zaghawa tribespeople. Moments later, more than 1,000 Janjaweed attackers rode into the village on horses and camels, backed by Sudanese government troops in trucks.
"The Janjaweed shouted: `We will not allow blacks here. We will not let Zaghawa here. This land is only for Arabs,’ " Ms. Khattar recalled.
Ms. Khattar grabbed her children, and, as shots and flames raged around her, raced for a nearby forest. But her father and mother tried to protect their animals — they were yelling, “Don’t take our livestock.” They were both shot dead.
The attack was part of a deliberate strategy to ensure that the village would be forever uninhabitable, that the Zaghawa could never live there again. The Janjaweed poisoned wells by stuffing them with the corpses of people and donkeys. They also blew up a dam that supplied water to the farms, destroyed seven hand pumps in the village and burned all the homes and even the village school, the clinic and the mosque.
In separate interviews, I talked to more than a dozen other survivors from Ab-Layha, and they all confirm Ms. Khattar’s story. By most accounts, about 100 people were massacred that day in Ab-Layha, and a particular effort was made to exterminate all men and boys, even the very young. Women and girls were sometimes allowed to flee, but the prettiest were kidnapped.
Most of those raped don’t want to talk about it. But Zahra Abdel Karim, a 30-year-old woman, told me how in the same attack on Ab-Layha, the Janjaweed shot to death her husband, Adam, and 7-year-old son, Rahshid, as well as three of her brothers. Then they grabbed her 4-year-old son, Rasheed, from her arms and cut his throat.
The Janjaweed took her and her two sisters away on horses and gang-raped them, she said. The troops shot one sister, Kuttuma, and cut the throat of the other, Fatima, and they discussed how to mutilate her. (Sexual humiliation has been part of the Sudanese strategy to drive out the African tribespeople. The Janjaweed routinely add to the stigma by branding or scarring the women they rape.)
"One Janjaweed said: `You belong to me. You are a slave to the Arabs, and this is the sign of a slave,’ " she recalled. He slashed her leg with a sword before letting her hobble away, stark naked. Other villagers confirmed that they had found her naked and bleeding, and she showed me the scar on her leg.
By comparison, Ms. Khattar was one of the lucky ones. She lost her parents, her home and all her belongings, but her husband and children were alive, and she had not been raped. Unfortunately, her luck would soon run out.
I’ll tell you more of her story on Saturday, because if she and her people aren’t victims of genocide, then the word has no meaning.
Mats, that was the first thing that came to mind too, once I saw the highlighted words (as the West Looks Away) of his piece.
It is simply amazing to see that even though there are no strategic interests for us in the Sudan (other than cleaning up terrorist training camps, set up by the courtesy of ...yup...Arabs), we are atleast chastizing our gov't for not doing enough. Yet, those in the region, with a legacy in the country simply bitch and moan instead of delaring a jihad against these slave drivers.
The continued Saga of African ethnic cleansing by Arabs. Disgusting… (since the moderators have chosen to bury this in an overall Sudan thread, consindering there are 500 threads on IRaq. It seems like a attempt to acknolegde the shame of fellow muslims by not giving this appropropriate due attention in a threa of its own)
Sudan’s Final Solution
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: June 19, 2004
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/19/opinion/19KRIS.html
LONG THE SUDAN-CHAD BORDER — In my last column, I wrote about Magboula Muhammad Khattar, a 24-year-old woman whose world began to collapse in March, when the Janjaweed Arab militia burned her village and slaughtered her parents.
Similar atrocities were happening all over Darfur, in western Sudan, leaving 1.2 million people homeless. Refugees tell consistent tales of murder, pillage and rape against the Zaghawa, Fur and Masalit tribes by the Arabs driving them away.
As this genocide unfolded, the West largely ignored it. That was not an option for Ms. Khattar and her husband, Ali Daoud.
The night after the village massacre, survivors slipped out of the forest to salvage any belongings and bury their dead. They found the bodies of Ms. Khattar’s mother and father; her father’s corpse had been thrown in a well to poison the water supply. Ms. Khattar was now responsible for her 3-year-old sister as well as her own two children.
Then, as they prepared the bodies, one moved. Hussein Bashir Abakr, 19, had been shot in the neck and mouth and left for dead, but he was still alive. His parents had both been killed, along with all his siblings except for one brother, who had been shot in the foot but escaped.
That brother, Nuradin, gave up his duty to bury their parents, choosing instead to carry Hussein into the forest and to try to nurse him with traditional medicines. Nuradin’s bullet wound made every step agonizing, but he was determined to save the only member of his family left. Over the next 46 nights, Nuradin dragged himself and his brother toward Chad.
Finally, they staggered over the dry riverbed marking the border, where I found them. Hussein has lost part of his tongue and many of his teeth and cannot eat solid food. He is sick and inconsolable; his wife and baby were carried off by the Janjaweed and haven’t been seen since. As I interviewed him, he bent over to retch every couple of minutes, Nuradin still cradling him tenderly.
Ms. Khattar and most of the other villagers decided they could not make the long trek to Chad. So they inched forward at night to find refuge on a nearby mountain.
Every other night, she crept down the mountain to fetch water, risking kidnapping by the Janjaweed. “It was so hard in the mountains,” Ms. Khattar recalled. “There were snakes and scorpions, and a constant fear of the Janjaweed.” Six-foot cobras have killed some of the refugees. To feed her children, Ms. Khattar boiled leaves and plants normally eaten only by camels. Even so, her mother-in-law died.
Officially, Sudan had agreed to a cease-fire in Darfur. But at the end of May, a Sudanese military plane spotted the villagers’ hideout, and soon after, the Janjaweed attacked.
"Ali had told me: `If the Janjaweed attack, don’t try to save me. You can’t help. Don’t get angry. Just keep the children and run away to Bahai [in Chad]. Don’t shout or say anything,’ " Ms. Khattar said. So she hid in a hollow with the children, peeking out occasionally. She saw the Janjaweed round up all the villagers, including her husband and his three young brothers: Moussa, 8, Mochtar, 6, and Muhammad, 4. “Even the boys,” she remembers. “They tied their hands like this” — she motioned with her arms in front of her — “and then forced them to lie on the ground.” Then, she says, the males were all shot to death, while women were taken away to be raped.
There were 45 corpses, all killed because of the color of their skin, part of an officially sanctioned drive by Sudan’s Arab government to purge the western Sudanese countryside of black-skinned non-Arabs.
The Sudanese authorities, much like the Turks in 1915 and the Nazis in the 1930’s, apparently calculated that genocide offered considerable domestic benefits — like the long-term stability to be achieved by a “final solution” of conflicts between Arabs and non-Arabs — and that the world would not really care very much. It looks as if the Sudanese bet correctly.
Perhaps Americans truly don’t care about the hundreds of thousands of lives at stake — we have other problems, and Darfur is far away. But my hunch is that if we could just meet the victims, we would not be willing to acquiesce in genocide.
After two Janjaweed attacks, Ms. Khattar was left a widow, responsible for three small, starving children in a land where showing her face would mean rape or death. I’ll continue her saga in Wednesday’s column.
LMAO. I love this. A country which was artifically created, when the arabs wanted to join Egypt instead of creating an independent Sudan - something the africans wanted. A country that has been fighting and killing people for decades, regardless or race or religion is now completely and utterly the fault of one creed. Matsui you by any chance been reading books by Le Pen?
You can blame the arab communities/countries/leaders all you want. But it is a fruitless and rather pathetic attempt. These people cant feed their own people. Iran imports food. Saudi doesnt have the means to provide 50% of its labour force with jobs. Egypt is busy trying ensure that the Mubarak family retains control a la Suharto. They dont care.
Now back to logistics. Funding and support for UN peacekeepers is provided by the most viable economic powers who have teh case and funding. Thus the US is on top followed by Europe and then China. Forget it. I am not gonna waste my time explaining the logicistic dynamics of peacekeeping and humanitarian aid when people post here with an agenda and not with an open mind.
This will be another Rwanda. But hey mayhe this time we wont wait 5 years. We could wait 4.
CM, what is this artificially created crap? According to some, so is Pakistan. No one is disputing that Arabs are useless chanda. I am with you. They are the worst of the lot here. But next time you put p 19 threads based on your myopic anti-american view point, remember to post a 
for the black being systematically ethinically cleansed by the Arabs
Its very simple. None of the North African well everything above DRC was divided by the colonialist. Entire tribes and castes now exist in 2 as much as 3 countries. Though one tribe they live in 2 countries. Of course once they demarcated the boudaries they also placed warring tribes in the same countries and their allies in others. Its a bloody mess.
If i do that Matsui would that mean you would take your head out the american's ass you are kissing for a green card?
Green card? Aray yaar, hum toh pakkay amreekan hain..about to host a young profesionals dinner to raise fund for Bush reelection. It;s time to give back. ;) Wnna give a $250 donation for the good cause?
The reality is the reality, there is a Sudan and the arabs are killing off the ethnic blacks. Now you can displace the blame beause this is what arab sympathizers are used to.