Re: UN: Hamas seized food and blankets from needy Gazans
LMAO! Stopping aid is stopping aid. Pathetic that you allow politics affect your moral values.
LMAO! Stopping aid is stopping aid. Pathetic that you allow politics affect your moral values.
Aid is to be delivered via the ground as ships will be stopped in the fear that they are smuggling arms, that is being done in the hopes that more conflict can be avoided. Are you against that? Do you want the militants to rearm and start more conflict with Israel, be honest.
Aid is to be delivered via the ground as ships will be stopped in the fear that they are smuggling arms, that is being done in the hopes that more conflict can be avoided. Are you against that? Do you want the militants to rearm and start more conflict with Israel,** be honest.**
Honestly? I would like Israel to not use any arm against Palestinians, they both should use sling-shots against each other, no guns, no missiles, no rockets etc.
Are we losing touch with the sense of reality or what?
Hamas's ignorant and arrogant policies lead to the recent war with the Israel, thus resulting in 100's (if not 1000's) of casualties.
And you guys are fighting on blankets? Wah bhai wah. What a pathetic debate.
If you want to debate, then debate the much more est-oo-peed moves of Hamas instead of spending time on pathetic blankets.
Just think of what happened to Gaza mother who lost a grown up son in the war? Is she dying to get the blanket or she is walking dead after seeing the charred body of her son?
Hamas should not be blamed for blankets. This is childish stuff compared to what this ignorant organizations has stolen from the gaza people "life".
I already read this genius. I was refering to the Pro Zionists on this forum, they tend to ignore the Hamas side and focus on the biased reporting of western and Israeli reporting…
Try to read between the lines.
Aid is to be delivered via the ground as ships will be stopped in the fear that they are smuggling arms, Do you want the militants to rearm and start more conflict with Israel, be honest.
You mean the same way they have been delivering aid to Gaza all this time? The same Aid which for some reason lead to a humanitarian crisis?!?!
And the Militants will rearm if Israel doesnt abide by the cease fire, which means they have to stop the blockade.
For some reason you put the entire onus on Hamas...
The conflict will be restarted by Israel! Israel does NOT want peace! They are trying to beat the Palestinians into surender. Honestly, how naive can you be.
Re: UN: Hamas seized food and blankets from needy Gazans
Oh yeah just like chemical weapons were not used to attack the UN compound and destory aid.
Creidible ....... it seems a press statement from UN is not enought for you .... report from Al Jazeera is not enough for you ...... you can continue to be believe whatever you want .... you are being an Ostrich ..... but that won't change the fact !!!!!!!!!!!!!
well...i'd rather be an ostrich than a porky. oink oink
since when was the UN press statement bible? but thats besides the point, Im not doubting what they sais, im doubting the spin haaretz put on it to potrya thier own views. You'd think from the title, Hamas was snatching aid from the gazan and hoarding it for themselves, when they're obviously more concerned about distributing equally. They are the gov. after, its thier responsibilty to make sure that happens.
......They [hamas] are the gov. after, its thier responsibilty to make sure that happens.
FYI. The real civilized governments make sure they are not dependent on UN food aid, unless it is a natural calamity like earthquake or tsunami.
Only primitive tribals are the ones who cannot protect their infrastructure, and thus become dependent on the UN has to come in and feed them.
For comparison check out the behavior of primitive tribals in africa, haiti, and afghanistan.
Gaza “tribals” according to burqa:
http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2008/2/28/1_771423_1_34.jpg
Re: UN: Hamas seized food and blankets from needy Gazans
Actually primitive tribals dont tend rely on UN food parcels, they live and work independantly and are very protective of thier property. Try stepping on their land sometime and they'll have you for breakfast...literally.
so 'FYI' you ought to pick up a decent encyclopedia and learn about the world. Its time you let go of the fairy tales.
Even if it is Bible … does that really matter … after all you dont belive the bible also 
It seems Hamas has objection to giving aid to groups with “ties” to its opponents … forget about “ummah” they dont care for their fellow Palestinians …
It is shamefull that they are objecting to giving aid to fellow Palestinians but you seem to be ok with that. I guess it is a culutural thing and i won’t understand … maybe you have a better understanding of this culture … As for me I would rather be a “porky” then starve a fellow human being …
BBC NEWS | Middle East | UN halts Gaza aid over ‘thefts’
Stealing again and it seems UN has stopped delivery of all aid now !!!
Ten truckloads of flour and rice were taken from the Palestinian side of the Kerem Shalom crossing, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency (Unrwa) said
I already read this genius. I was refering to the Pro Zionists on this forum, they tend to ignore the Hamas side and focus on the biased reporting of western and Israeli reporting... Try to read between the lines.
While you are trying to read between the lines .... thousand's of people are being deprived of food aid by their own "flesh and blood". As i said before i can understand the "enemy" Israel's action to stop aid ..... they are the emeny and will try to starve them ... what is Hams's excuse .... these are their own people ... just because they don't agree with you politically .... you deprive them of food ..... so tell me again what is the difference between Hamas and Israel !!!!!
Actually primitive tribals dont tend rely on UN food parcels, they live and work independantly and are very protective of thier property. Try stepping on their land sometime and they'll have you for breakfast...literally.
so 'FYI' you ought to pick up a decent encyclopedia and learn about the world. Its time you let go of the fairy tales.
Guess we are now going to the "primitive primitive tree dwelling" tribals. Yes they do exist too, utterly dependent on the mercy of surrounding population. They too are worried sick of losing their tree houses to the "invaders".
Gaza leadership may not be classified as tree-dwelling tribals. Agreed!.
But unfortunately the use of the required brain-power in order to protect and safeguard their area and their people is kind of absent. Don't you agree?
In reality Gaza leadership has behaved in a primitive way as compared to their kin from Somalia, Afghanistan, FATA, Iraq, and many other despotic and primitive rulers.
See the point is not to prove Gaza leadership bad or good. No one has to do that.
Just look at their primitiveness based on their failed actions, their lack of diplomatic skills, and figure that out by yourself.
Just look at their primitiveness based on their failed actions, their lack of diplomatic skills, and figure that out by yourself.
They don't have any failed actions and they don't lack any diplomatic skills. They just have a genocidal neighbor. Another lie of yours debunked again.
So many liars on this forum; such as those who lie about Hamas hiding behind civilians.
They don't have any failed actions and they don't lack any diplomatic skills. They just have a genocidal neighbor. Another lie of yours debunked again.
So many liars on this forum; such as those who lie about Hamas hiding behind civilians.
Hamas has fired thousands of rockets into Israel and Israel has responded. There is video proof of Hamas using UN ambulances to transport fighters and weapons. They have used schools and mosques to store weapons and fight from, there is video proof of this. There is even fk'ing video of a Hamas leader stating "we use women and children as human sheilds" as a strategy in fighting Israel. Unless you are claiming there are no civilians in Gaza, you are lying to yourself, the facts overwhelmingly prove this.
Re: UN: Hamas seized food and blankets from needy Gazans
burqa:
what failed action are we talking about? Although, I don't agree with the infighting between fatah and hamas, because thier unity at this time is more crucial than ever, but i recognise the facts that:
1) they are the elected government, to isolate and ignore them is more or less suicidal in the peace process and in the aid distribution process.
2) they have a social welfare program, they offered to rebuild buildings, and compensate families for damage or loss of property and lives. They are compensating for what israel is responsible for.
3) They did not break the ceasefire, Israel did. They did not fire a single missile during the ceasefire, so they seem to know more about diplomacy than israel does.
4) They do not believe in killing all jews or jewish children, they infact praised the jews against the israeli occupation.
5) They do not aim to destroy israel, that article has been dropped from their charter long ago, yet it is brough up again and again. They are in support of isreal 1967 borders and the two state solutions. Some thing israel does not want at any cost because it has built settlements in the west bank.
looking at these point, some how i dont think any 'neutral' observer would say hamas actions were the cause here, but most sane people would point to israel as the aggressors.
Hamas has fired thousands of rockets into Israel and Israel has responded. There is video proof of Hamas using UN ambulances to transport fighters and weapons. They have used schools and mosques to store weapons and fight from, there is video proof of this. There is even fk'ing video of a Hamas leader stating "we use women and children as human sheilds" as a strategy in fighting Israel. Unless you are claiming there are no civilians in Gaza, you are lying to yourself, the facts overwhelmingly prove this.
for the love of God, where are these videos? are they top secret or something? Im sure that if they existed, you would be the first one to post them here as evidence. but please, if you manage to find them, do share.
This is garbage, Let me quote a Hamas leader:
This is what he said when I asked him if he could envision a 50-year hudna (or cease-fire) with Israel: “The only reason to have a hudna is to prepare yourself for the final battle. We don’t need 50 years to prepare ourselves for the final battle with Israel.” There is no chance, he said, that true Islam would ever allow a Jewish state to survive in the Muslim Middle East. “Israel is an impossibility. It is an offense against God.” -Nizar Rayyan
Nizar Rayyan of Hamas on God’s Hatred of Jews - Jeffrey Goldberg
Nizar Rayyan was one of the Hamas leaders Israel successful killed in the operation. This counterdicts exactly what you are claiming Ma Mooli.
They have been posted beofre on this website.
Hamas terrorsit using UN ambulance.
Mosque holding weapons taken out by IAF.
UN Elementry school in Gaza used by Hamas terrorsits to launch mortar shells at Israel.
U.N. condemns use of Gaza school by Palestinian militants
(http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/09/africa/ME-GEN-Palestinians-Israel-U.N.-School.php)