That is fine everybody has a right to have their weddings and parties their way. But this guy either should have not invited this MP or should have told him up front that it is a segregated wedding.
When people of other faith wish to visit our masjid or we invite them , we let them know what we expect out of them and also what should they expect to see when they come visit.
Never ever any controversy arose because of following this strategy.
Muslims are under the gun anyway , why create controversies ? That MP also knew very well that many Muslims have segregated parties all the time , but he decided to give a lash and it is fault of this guy who did not spell out to that MP what was expected out of him and what should he be expecting.
i agree the guy shouldve told the mp beforehand what to expect, then there wouldnt have been such a hoo-ha over the whole thing. here in the uk though, the mp was made to look a fool and thats how the story's been played in the media. that he shouldve been more sensitive to cultural differences, so quite surprisingly, the story didnt really create any anti islam propaganda as expected from the media.
I do agree that he should have known before going to the wedding like putting it on the card. Then again, he could have had some respect for the religion.
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hmm i wouldnt take an affront on MP's leaving. If he had been specifically told that the wedding was segregated , he came and snubbed to show critique then i would've been able to see insult. as it is, he might've left becaues he felt he was not comfortable rahter than making a statement (though i find him not bearing to sit amongst men without his wife as strange as ,if not more, he finds segregated weddings) .
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ah no another piece of the puzzle which telegarph reports.
** The Telegraph includes this additional info: "The wedding party was keen not to offend Mr Fitzgerald so a local Labour councillor rang him up and invited him to come back, saying there was a table where non-Muslims of different sexes could sit together. But instead the minister contacted his local newspaper to tell them he was disappointed by what had happened."**
So as a comment duly noted the guy is a sly dog who think he is white shariff in a black county to approve and disappprove of others customs.
"The critical missing information here is that the minister walked out of the wedding and then **rang his local paper** to make political mileage out of it. The teacup storm is of his own making. It's not about his 'personal moral stance', but his sly political publicity-seeking. I just feel sorry for the newlyweds."
ah no another piece of the puzzle which telegarph reports.
**
The Telegraph includes this additional info: "The wedding party was keen not to offend Mr Fitzgerald so a local Labour councillor rang him up and invited him to come back, saying there was a table where non-Muslims of different sexes could sit together. But instead the minister contacted his local newspaper to tell them he was disappointed by what had happened."**
So as a comment duly noted the guy is a sly dog who think he is white shariff in a black county to approve and disappprove of others customs.
"The critical missing information here is that the minister walked out of the wedding and then **rang his local paper** to make political mileage out of it. The teacup storm is of his own making. It's not about his 'personal moral stance', but his sly political publicity-seeking. I just feel sorry for the newlyweds."
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This MP set out to create a storm. The best treatment for him would have been to seat him in the ladies hall and allow all the ladies to beat him with their high heeled spangly gold unze's and chase him out.
He is a fool. I don't believe for a minute that he was not aware of the segregation culture of this community.
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This guy is the MP of TOWER HAMLETS (has a significant proportion of Bengalis) ! I wish him all the best of luck in the next election - he's really gonna need it!
It makes you look like a bunch of idiots when you brainlessly condemn everything Islamic for the sake of appearing more modern, so FOBbish (in awe of everything foreign and ashamed of everything muslim/pakistani).
We British Muslims are not ashmed of Islam and Islamic laws or guidelines.
Most British Muslim weddings are segregated.
The weddings hosts have a right to have a segregated wedding just as the MP has a right not to attend any wedding for whatever reason.
Nobody’s hurting anyone by having segregated weddings.
What’s stupid or talibanic about having segregated weddings in Britian? Britain is our country and Islam our religion and both can go hand in hand, we don’t have to compromise Islam to prove anything like certain kameemas try and do*.*
Maybe you guys don’t mind your wives, mothers and sisters all tarted up and mingling with strange men but most Muslim men do mind, even British Caucasian Muslims (and even Non-Muslims) people I know are in favour of segregated weddings and not just British Muslims of Paki origin.
Its the matter of principle, he should have been informed earlier then it would have been his choice to decline if not agreed.
Agreed.
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You guys are retards with inferiority complexes!
It makes you look like a bunch of idiots when you brainlessly condemn everything Islamic for the sake of appearing more modern, so FOBbish (in awe of everything foreign and ashamed of everything muslim/pakistani).
We British Muslims are not ashmed of Islam and Islamic laws or guidelines.
Most British Muslim weddings are segregated.
The weddings hosts have a right to have a segregated wedding just as the MP has a right not to attend any wedding for whatever reason.
Nobody’s hurting anyone by having segregated weddings.
What’s stupid or talibanic about having segregated weddings in Britian? Britain is our country and Islam our religion and both can go hand in hand, we don’t have to compromise Islam to prove anything like certain kameemas try and do*.*
Maybe you guys don’t mind your wives, mothers and sisters all tarted up and mingling with strange men but most Muslim men do mind, even British Caucasian Muslims (and even Non-Muslims) people I know are in favour of segregated weddings and not just British Muslims of Paki origin.
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A bit harch bro, why chip on the shoulder.
Tell me one thing what would you do if you are invited to a wedding which is not segragated? Max you can do is decline.
What if you were not informed that its a combined sitting? You will leave with your wife/mother/sister.
What you would have done if you had gone back? Played racism card.
Thats exactly this dude has done. Find nothing wrong with it.
As a point I do not attend segragated weddings but then I go among humans.
...Thats exactly this dude has done. Find nothing wrong with it.
As a point I do not attend segragated weddings but then I go among humans.
Light bearer, I find your comment offensive to HUMANS who choose to have segregated weddings. Just bcos someone does not share the same viewpoint as you on segregated weddings, it does NOT make them ANIMALs or ALIENS or whatever else you would class as inhuman.
Are you by any chance a reader of the SUN?
IF someone decides to interpret Islamic teachings as encouraging of segregation and practices their belief, then who are you to class them as non-human?
In my experience it will NOT kill anyone to attend either a segregated or a NON-segregated wedding. Either way it's usually a pleasant experience.
Whether u attend mixed or segregated wedding, it's no concern of mine, but you sure seem so insecure that you make a principle of not attending segregated, why is that?
People can have a wide ranging reason for segregation, in most cases it's so that the Hijabi women can dress up, look their best and relax where there r no men present. Who are you to judge them and their requirements?
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**Nosherwan, I really don't think most Muslim and non-Muslim men are in favour of segregated weddings, it's still pretty rare. I really don't know many men that have a problem with their wives/gfs just talking to a member of the opposite sex as long as it doesn't cross the line. I do think segregated weddings are a good idea tho for girls who wear hijab or niqaab and want to let their hair down and really enjoy themselves (tho of course us Desis still can't get away with wearing skimpy dresses the way Arab Muslim women do at their segregated weddings). Each to their own. I do think the MP should have been told in advance, tho, that the wedding was going to be segregated so he could decide if he wanted to attend or not. Couples might feel uncomfortable being seperated, esp if they don't know many ppl at the wedding.
I once went to a wedding where the bride herself was v.liberal but her sister wore full niqaab, I did feel really bad for her having to keep it on the whole way thru, eating with it on etc. Was surprised the wedding hadn't been segregated for her sake.
Sorry post is in bold, I can't seem to get rid of it :(
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I have been to many segregated weddings, people dress their best when going to a wedding, women especially, therefore you get many attractive women(dont know about the men...lol)at weddings, if islam says to a woman to cover her beauty and be modest, well she aint gonna want to go to a mixed wedding. segregated weddings make sense, though ive nothing against mixed weddings, dont think id feel as comfortable going to one as opposed to one where i know the only people that may stare at me will be the auntys scrutinising my clothes or when i eat!
I’ve always thought that Bengalis were quite liberal, u see far less hijabi women in Bangladesh than in Pakistan. I could literally count the number on two hands that I would see during one week in Dhaka, infact I see wayy more hijabi women in London than back there. Dunno bout the ppl in Tower Hamlets cos I’ve not been there but perhaps they are more conservative..
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^ Whitechapel road, almost every woman you go past is Bengali and wears a headscarf and abaya. Segregation wouldn't have been too unexpected for this politician.I'm not sure, but it's possible this wedding took place at a Mosque / Islamic function hall thing, in which case it would have been even more expected.
Light bearer, I find your comment offensive to HUMANS who choose to have segregated weddings. Just bcos someone does not share the same viewpoint as you on segregated weddings, it does NOT make them ANIMALs or ALIENS or whatever else you would class as inhuman.
Are you by any chance a reader of the SUN?
IF someone decides to interpret Islamic teachings as encouraging of segregation and practices their belief, then who are you to class them as non-human?
In my experience it will NOT kill anyone to attend either a segregated or a NON-segregated wedding. Either way it's usually a pleasant experience.
Whether u attend mixed or segregated wedding, it's no concern of mine, but you sure seem so insecure that you make a principle of not attending segregated, why is that?
People can have a wide ranging reason for segregation, in most cases it's so that the Hijabi women can dress up, look their best and relax where there r no men present. Who are you to judge them and their requirements?
PLease don't be offended my post was in response to another post's bold parts, you will see the reference in my post.
Attending the segregated wedding may not kill me physically but definately it will be death of all what I stand for. Its not a matter of being insecure, me attending the segragated wedding is similar to my approval of such bahaviours. Its as much offensive to me as if I would ask a moulvi saab 'come lets have a drink' - it will definately not kill him and it may very well be a good an cheerful experience however it is totally against what he stands for. I would not call him insecure - just different.
As I was saying earlier I was not judging anone, last time I checked I am not God. My response was a reaction of an another post. Have fun.
I’ve been invited to weddings, told in advance that its segregated, but found out it was mixed, obviously I was a bit annoyed but not annoyed enough to walk out of it. I stay there to give glad tidings and thank the bride’s family for inviting me.
Fair enough this MP walked out because of his values, but then why the hell did he need to phone the press and turn this whole thing into something political. Banging on about radical Islam in europe blah blah blah and then it become of those issues in which muslims are supposedly rejecting the “British way of life” (whatever that is) and imposing their ideas onto other people.
He obviously had some other intentions. His opponents have accused him of pandering to white, working class voters Look here -
George Galloway, the current MP for Bethnal Green and Bow who will contest the new Poplar and Limehouse constituency against Mr Fitzpatrick at the next election, said: "If he doesn’t wish to attend an Islamic wedding and observe the religious customs preferred by the bride and groom, he should not go rather than insult them for perceived political gain.
“I am absolutely amazed and astonished that a government minister with a substantial Muslim minority in his constituency should have decided to give such a gratuitous insult to so many Muslims.”
Tim Archer, the Conservative candidate for the constituency at the next election said: “I can’t help but feel he’s playing a certain race card to save his skin at the next election. I think it’s a desperate strategy.”
