Trump replaced RexTillerson with Mike Pompeo as Sacretary of State -troubles for PAK

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Err, the whole world (except trump fans) know the answer to that question. So, not even going into that debate.

And, he was fired because yesterday he criticized Russia for the nerve agent poisoning of british citizens

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Rex Tillerson was probably the only somewhat sane mind left in Trump’s circle, now he is gone. Trump has gone totally nuts.

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Removed!

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what is with you Afghans and your obsession with “punjabianos” lmao, y’all act like you got no heera mandi in Afghani land? Most of those women at heera mandi are afghan lol.

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It was addressed to to those two so called Afghans obama and mocpk who used very bad language for me in Pashto.

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But but general kelly will save us! It looks like the suicide pact between mnuchin, mattis and tillerson was as durable as democracy within Pakistani parties :smiley:

That anti-russia thing might be the last straw, though it makes me think what does Putin have over Trump, but Mr. T calling him a “moron” should have been the end of him. I can bet that Mr. T knew his days were numbered when that came out. You can’t get away calling the boss stupid at his face in a mafia family.

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There is nothing wrong with admitting to who you are. If you are an afghan then do accept it.

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I AM AN AFGHAN!!! because I am a Pakhtun, geographically living in Pakistan. How can I say I am not an Afghan that will be saying I am not a Pakhtun. Because Afghan = Pakhtun= pashtun=Pathan, that’s what every pakhtun believe. However, I am not Aghanistani, that will be the citizen of Afghanistan regardless of ethnicity. You people are so ignorant about this, when you say bad thing about Afghan you are hurting you own 40 million Afghan/pakhtun citizens. You guys should be precise when referring to the citizens of Afghanistan.

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There are a couple of options for this post:

(a) You remove this post cuz we know whats written here and its offensive

(b) you translate it in english for everyone

OR, we translate it ourselves but then it’ll be embarassing. As a responsible poster, i’ll leave it to you.

Now i know you are a Pakistani Pakhtun. So you definitely wouldnt have to worry about anyone criticizing Afghanistan. Agreed?

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I will object if they are using the word Afghan instead of Afghanistani.

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Did people call themselves afghan when the sikhs ruled punjab and nwfp / kp up to the khyber pass? The point is that afghanistan has been a separate country for more than a century and pakistani pashtuns are and should be proud pakistanis. Everyone calls the citizens of afghanistan to be afghans so how can you be afghan?

The other thing that has been suspect and makes people question you is that you worry about sanctuaries in Pakistan when there are proven sanctuaries of TTP / ISIS in eastern afghanistan that strike first at pashtuns in KP before they strike anywhere else in pakistan. I know that there are journalists like Saleem Shafi saying that afghanistan beats in their heart but don’t you get it that afghans (afghanistan’s citizens) will use you as a pawn to break pakistan to get a seaport in gwadar (highly unlikely) but they don’t want any input from pakistani “afghans” in internal affairs of Afghanistan.

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Ok I get your point. When people say Afghani, they dont mean pashtun. They mean, citizens of Afghanistan. And you cant blame them. Its the way its called everywhere, even in all the books written.

Just like people of Bengladesh are called Bengalis.

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The unipolar world order since the end of cold war is morphing into a multipolar world order faster than many had expected. The window of opportunity for the US is closing so it is desperate to throw a wrench into this transition as well as secure as many long term strategic agreements regarding its military presence in as many places as possible. From Japan to South Korea to South China sea to South Asia to Middle East to Africa, its presence is being threatened, so US is trying to pit one country against another so it’s presence becomes a security necessity for the host nation. For example, US tried to pit Philippines against China but the president of Philippines was smart and didn’t fall into that trap. Ties between North and South Korea are warming up despite US efforts on the contrary. Keep in mind that Afghanistan is an occupied country, its constitution and its resulting government both are a work of art for the US, by the US. Only a minority among Afghans who betrayed their own country for $$$ or are just too scared of the occupying forces hate Pakistan, the rest see Pakistan as their second home. Pakistan should not hate back lest it wants to fall into the trap laid down by occupying foreign forces.

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فواد – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

ميں سمجھنے سے قاصر ہوں کہ کس پيمانے اور معيار کو بنياد بنا کر آپ يہ دعوی کر رہے ہيں کہ افغانستان پر غير ملکی تسلط ہے، کيونکہ يہ تو افغانستان کے مقامی لوگ ہيں جن کے ووٹ لے کر موجود حکمران برسر اقتدار آۓ ہيں اور اپنی ہر پاليسی اور اقدامات کے ليے وہ اپنے ووٹرز کے سامنے جواب دہ ہيں۔

دہشت گرد تنظيموں اور طالبان کے سپورٹرز کے نقطہ نظر سے اگر ديکھيں تو يہ بات سمجھنا آسان ہے کہ وہ کيونکر “بيرونی حملہ آوروں” کے جھوٹے نعرے کا سہارا لينے کے ليے بے تاب ہيں کيونکہ آزادی کی تحريک کے دلفريب دعوے کے سوا ان کے پاس اپنی کاروائيوں کے ليے کسی بھی قسم کی عوامی حمايت کرنا ممکن نہيں ہے۔ تاہم گزشتہ دس برسوں کے دوران افغانستان کے عام شہريوں کے خلاف ان کے بلاتفريق غير انسانی حملوں نے ان کے اہداف اور اصل فطرت کو سب پر عياں کر ديا ہے جس کی بدولت وہ اب افغانستان کے عوام اور ملک کے مستقبل کے ليے غير اہم ہو چکے ہيں۔

جيسا کہ ميں نے فورم پر پہلے بھی کئ بار واضح کيا ہے کہ يہ صرف امريکی افواج ہی نہيں ہيں جو افغانستان ميں دہشت گرد تنظيموں کے خلاف نبردآزما ہيں۔ درجنوں ممالک کی افواج کے ساتھ مقامی افغان فورسز بھی ہمارے ساتھ مل کر کام کر رہی ہيں تا کہ عام افغان عوام کی زندگيوں کو محفوظ کيا جا سکے اور دہشت گردی کے محفوظ ٹھکانوں کا قلمع قمع ممکن ہو سکے

ہمارا ہدف ہميشہ سے يہی رہا ہے کہ افغانيوں کی سرپرستی ميں ايسا لائحہ عمل مرتب کيا جاۓ جس کی ذمہ داری وہاں کے لوگ خود اٹھائيں۔ اس وقت افغانستان ميں مقامی حکومت کے تعاون اور اشتراک عمل سے جاری صحت، تعليم اور روزگار سے متعلق بے شمار امريکی ترقياتی منصوبے واضح ثبوت ہيں کہ امريکہ افغانستان کو فتح کرنے کی کوشش نہيں کر رہا۔ بلکہ حقيقت اس کے برعکس ہے۔

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Lets not forget the fact that it was Papa Biden, no matter how much I like him, who had to cobble together this current govt of ghani and abdullah after a not so free and fair election. There is no real hope for the afghan parliamentary elections that were already postponed in 2016 to July of this year. No talking points will solve this real issue that will cause further vietnamization of afghanistan.

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Doesnt matter, Pakistan isnt receiving any military aid for once. Pakistani military might still want it, but soon they will ween off. completely and really not care for it.

The US doesn’t really matter anymore for Pakistan, the playing field has been leveled by China with promising economic measures.

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Man, there was a time GS admins would immediately ban people using such lingo! There’s barely anyone left here but there ought to be some repercussions for using such lingo!

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Different strokes for different folks. People can cuss at other people’s mothers call them *******s but still can get away with an edit.

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Even though I deleted my message but your and Obama messages are still there. Mine was in response to the language that you and Obama used for me in the following posts

Here is one from Obama:

Here are some from you:

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Totally disagree with this statement, most Afghans irrespective of their ethnicity support the current government, they hate Taliban because they have now realized the fact that Taliban are proxies. 100% Afghan intelligentsia support the current western supported government of Kabul. The hatred for Pakistan is created by the Pakistan “strategic depth” policy. The afghan national army is very strong and trained professionally, Taliban can never defeat them even if foreign forces withdraw today. The sooner our policy maker realize this fact, the better it will be for us. Pakistan should abandon the already bankrupt strategic depth policy at once.