Tribals pledge to destroy all anti-Pakistani elements

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I'd like to congraulate the people of waziristan for teaching the qubza army of islamabad a lesson in humility. The last time they needed this reminder was in Karachi. Hopefully, one day they will learn their lessons and not repeat their mistakes. But you never knoew with these people.
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I'd like to congratulate the Pak army for not carpet-bombing the entire region. These are our people and if we lost some guys trying a softly-softly approach at least we did it for the right reasons.

Treu extreme, Reminds me ofhow US dealt with Fallujah. It would have a lot easier to just bomb the LLU out of Fallujah but we have morals. I agree with you.

Since when did the US threaten to carpet bomb one of it's 52 states on behalf of someone else?

I don't see the connecetion.

Xtreme,

Leave this puerile argument about "who won" to the Imdads and the various Afghan trolls.

The point is that this has clearly angered the US and it will have consequences far worse than the risks of us confronting these terrorists decisively.

US wants most terrorists arrested or killed, while we just gave amnesty to all but "top al-Qaida" leadership.

Believe me, this is simply the beginning.

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*Originally posted by Mr Xtreme: *

I'd like to congratulate the Pak army for not carpet-bombing the entire region. These are our people and if we lost some guys trying a softly-softly approach at least we did it for the right reasons.
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i am wondering what makes you so sure about your CARPET BOMBS, man i know Pakistani products so plz dont mention it agian. maybe you guys only have a few of them and when uz run out of it then we would start our LAND invasion which only history knows how it is. WE ARE THE SUPERIOIR WARRIORS ON LAND, but what if we dont have AIR FORCE at least we have BELIEFE in GOD who decides DEFEAT and VICTORY.

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More on the Tribal area debacle


**Pakistan’s commitment criticized

Appeasing militants only delays likely battle, U.S. general says **

The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan said Monday that Pakistan’s extension of a deadline for the surrender of militants raises questions about the nation’s commitment to fighting Taliban and al Qaeda in its tribal regions, and he suggested that **appeasing extremists will only put off an inevitable battle. **

Barno said the U.S. military is watching closely to see how Pakistan deals with the militants, but he added that a “significant” number have to be killed or captured.

Instead, in the standoff between Islamabad and the foreign fighters, the government appears to have blinked, said Pakistani analysts familiar with the tribal areas.

“At the moment, tribesmen appear to have the upper hand, and the government, by contrast, appears inept,” said Asadullah Khan, a political analyst in Peshawar, capital of the Northwest Frontier province, which borders the tribal areas.

Observers worry that the extension granted by the government will allow suspected al Qaeda and Taliban fugitives to escape areas protected by the army or flee into neighboring Afghanistan.

“Everyone understands the desire to avoid open conflict,” said retired Lt. Gen. Talat Massood. But, he added: "**If the idea was to go in with force and show them who is boss, the objective remains unattained. By going in and then pulling back in such a manner, the tribes likely now have the wrong impression – that they can do whatever they like without fear from government forces.‘’ **

The latest failed showdown followed on the heels of a much-derided reconciliation ceremony featuring five tribesmen who had been accused of sheltering al Qaeda and commanding battles against security forces in which more than 120 people died. At a ceremony in South Waziristan on April 24, they were offered amnesty in exchange for pledges of loyalty to Pakistan.

**"Pakistanis could not believe their eyes when they saw pictures of army commanders embracing these men who had been vilified as terrorists,‘’ said Massood. “If anybody has gained, it’s not the government.” **

**One of the men, Nek Mohammad, has since indicated that he will continue to wage a jihad, or holy war, against U.S. forces in Afghanistan. He also renewed his pledges of loyalty to Taliban supreme commander Mullah Mohammed Omar and scoffed at government efforts to rein in the militants. **

"I told the army I would not fire on Afghanistan from Waziristan soil, but jihad is binding on every Muslim, and we will continue to help Afghanistan, " Mohammad told local journalists. “In the tribal tradition, surrender means you approach the rival group and meet them on their turf. In my case, I did not go to them, they came to me, so that makes it clear who surrendered to whom.”

**Pakistani analysts say the only proof that the government’s strategy in the tribal areas is paying off would be a significant drop in militant activities both in Pakistan and in Afghanistan. **

“So far, there are no tangible results to speak of, but the government has to keep applying pressure while simultaneously working to convince (the tribal people) that Pakistan’s best interests are their best interests,” said Massood. “If that doesn’t help improve the situation, the **government has to be ready to go in again with as much force as needed to establish its command.” **


Firstly, they should see to their own back yard first, before glaring at the weeds in ours. Secondly they have up-set the whole world and want pakistan to be added to some of the most fearsome militant clashes in history.

No thankyou, i think if we can accomplish this peacfully then great otherwise our generals are neither cowards nor fools, they know what to do.

Enforcer,

You talk as though we are some equal power with the US.

The context is that our economic revival, diplomatic standing and Musharraf's hold on power is all based on approval from America and our status as the primary ally in their war on terror. So when the American commander in Afghanistan says something, it will have to be taken seriously, unlike the words of Khalilzad or Karzai.

We cannot take their aid to fight terrorists and then turn around and give amnesty to all of them. US will not accept the killers of their troops going free, which for some reason our Army is willing to embrace.

There are consequences to making deals with terrorist jahils and this is simply the beginning.

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Enforcer,

You talk as though we are some equal power with the US.

The context is that our economic revival, diplomatic standing and Musharraf's hold on power is all based on approval from America and our status as the primary ally in their war on terror. So when the American commander in Afghanistan says something, it will have to be taken seriously, unlike the words of Khalilzad or Karzai.

We cannot take their aid to fight terrorists and then turn around and give amnesty to all of them. US will not accept the killers of their troops going free, which for some reason our Army is willing to embrace.

There are consequences to making deals with terrorist jahils and this is simply the beginning.
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Bro you sound so scared off the Americans. Today they hold the World Power i wonder who would be after them.

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*Originally posted by Khilaari: *
Enforcer,

You talk as though we are some equal power with the US.

The context is that our economic revival, diplomatic standing and Musharraf's hold on power is all based on approval from America and our status as the primary ally in their war on terror. So when the American commander in Afghanistan says something, it will have to be taken seriously, unlike the words of Khalilzad or Karzai.

We cannot take their aid to fight terrorists and then turn around and give amnesty to all of them. US will not accept the killers of their troops going free, which for some reason our Army is willing to embrace.

There are consequences to making deals with terrorist jahils and this is simply the beginning.
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Hi Khaliari, Firstly we are not an equal power compared to the United States of America but we are a key regional player and The US needs a stable Pakistan in the region to maintian stability. Thus i belive that a comprimise will be reached, afterall we are adopting the same tactics as the US in iraq.. If you cant kill em, hell... Let the locals deal with them instead....

As for our military, our tactics will be sucessful, and inshallah... God wiliing we will prove our whole hearted commitmenmt to the war on terror....