Title Of The Companions

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Originally posted by CocoNut: *
So all I have to do is go to Mecca and Medina, aid some people, **become a devout muslim* and recieve a title which nobody knows They started the flame and (presumably) I can carry it forth.

I'm kinda jealous that they recieve such stature in jannah and with Allah while it comes out like the rest of us can never achieve that hierachical ecstacy.
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Why on earth you feel jealous ?When you can achieve what they did!
Go ahead and become a devout muslim, May allah help you and be pleased with you. :)

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Inuit: Thank you for a very well thought out explanation, it makes perfect sense to me in every aspect. I am content with your answer.

Lajawab: I don’t see a point to your bullet notes. They don’t answer my questions, moreover your counter questions leave me absolutely confused back to the begining. I’m not sure why are we going around in circles.

Code_Red: First you say, you “are” not sahabi implying that I can never be one if I wanted to then you say that I can achieve what they have done and more. I don’t follow your logic. Thank you for the valiant attempt :flower1:

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It seems like you are try to create controversy out of a subject, which in substance, is not important enough for wasting time. My logic is very straight forward and any person with common sense and desire should understand it.

I will not negate you for what you are saying is hypothetical and all depends on you. Allah will be the best judge of your deeds.

There is no significance of that title you are mentioning repeatedly. It is just the distinction for the people who were present at the time of Prophet :saw: had the privelage to see him and get the first hand knowledge of islam from him. And later most of them spent their whole life spreading Islam with utmost sincerity and devotion. Islam reached every corner of the world due to their efforts. (for which we should be thank full to them and their students)

For the first part we(later muslim) are incapable. And the second part we are capable. And if you do it then May Allah be pleased with you(and all others who do this). And Allah shall be pleased, as there is no argument against it !

If Queen of England gives you the title ‘Sir’, then what difference will it make in front of Allah?

For Allah titles are not important.

Applying ifs and buts is not our duty, Allah is the only judge of ours and their deeds

It is the most I can do to make myself clear , If I am incomprehensible then pardon me

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Jazak Allah

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There is no need in me to create contreversy out of a tedious issue. Common sense and desire are there but not really, thats why I asked among my personal resasons.
Thank you Code_red :)

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*Originally posted by inuit: *
Allah mentioned that victory comes from Him, by His aid and decree, not because of their numbers or adequate supplies, whether the triumphs are few or many. On the day of Hunayn, the companions were proud because of their large number, some of them said, "Today we will not be defeated by a few." which did not avail them in the least; they retreated and fled from battle. Only a few of them remained with the Messenger of Allah Allah then sent down His aid and support to His Messenger and the believers who remained with him.

The Prophet (PBUH) brought ten thousand from the Muhajirin, the Ansar and various Arab tribes. Along with them came the Tulaqa' numbering two thousand men. The Messenger took them along to meet the enemy.

In the Two Sahihs, it is recorded that Shubah said that Abu Ishaq said that Al-Bara' binAzib said to a man who asked him, "O Abu `Amarah! Did you run away during Hunayn and leave the Messenger of Allah '' Al-Bara' said, "But the Messenger of Allah did not run away. Hawazin was a tribe proficient with their arrows. When we met them we attacked their forces and they ran away in defeat. The companions started to worry about collecting the spoils of war and the Hawazin started shooting arrows at us, then the companions fled. Many ran away from the battle as they had done in the battle of Uhad. Those who were acclaimed as the heroes of Islam, after the departure of the Holy Prophet from this world, were among the deserters.

The Prophet commanded his uncle Al-`Abbas, whose voice was rather loud, to call at the top of his voice, "O Companions of the Samurah [tree]'' referring to the Muhajirin and Ansar who gave their pledge under the tree during the pledge of Ridwan, not to run away and retreat. He also called, "O Companions of Surat Al-Baqarah.''

According to some traditions Ali ibn abi Talib, Abbas ibn Abd al Muttalib, Abu Sufyan ibn Harith and Abdullah ibn Masud were the only four persons who stayed with the Holy Prophet. Some say there were ten persons who did not run away. Ali stood in front of the Holy Prophet and stopped every attack made by the enemy to slay him. The Holy Prophet called those who were deserting to come back. Some of them returned and joined Ali to launch a counter attack on the enemy. When Ali killed Abu Jarul, the standard bearer of the enemy army, a general retreat began to take place among the invaders, which soon turned into chaos and then flight. In this way a most crushing defeat was inflicted on the enemy.

After the battle, on the instructions of the Holy Prophet, the spoils of war taken by the Muslims, were returned to those who embraced Islam. Some refused to comply with his orders. In such cases the Holy Prophet compensated them.

When one companion protested that the Holy Prophet had not done justice in the matter of distributing the spoils of war, some people wanted to kill him, but the Holy Prophet stopped them and said: "Wait. Such people, on their own, one day will go out of the true faith, then the best of men among you will kill him." And that man was killed by Ali in the battle of Nahrawan.

The believers who stayed with the Holy Prophet on the day of Hunayn also received the divine tranquillity (sakinah), along with the Holy Prophet.
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YUSUFALI: Allah turned with favour to the Prophet, the Muhajirs, and the Ansar,- who followed him in a time of distress, after that the hearts of a part of them had nearly swerved (from duty); but He turned to them (also): for He is unto them Most Kind, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Allah hath turned in mercy to the Prophet, and to the Muhajirin and the Ansar who followed him in the hour of hardship. After the hearts of a party of them had almost swerved aside, then turned He unto them in mercy. Lo! He is Full of Pity, Merciful for them.
SHAKIR: Certainly Allah has turned (mercifully) to the Prophet and those who fled (their homes) and the helpers who followed him in the hour of straitness after the hearts of a part of them were about to deviate, then He turned to them (mercifully); surely to them He is Compassionate, Merciful.

Allah has forgiven the Prophet,the Muhaajiroon and the Ansaar who followed him in the time of distress after the hearts of a group of them
had nearly deviated(from the right path,but He accepted their repentence.Certainly He is full of kindness to them,Most merciful(Raheem).9-117

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*Originally posted by Code_Red: *
There is no significance of that title you are mentioning repeatedly. It is just the distinction for the people who were present at the time of Prophet had the privelage to see him and get the first hand knowledge of islam from him.
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This title was NEVER used this way, in which it is treated TODAY. They specified it later sometime to give them a divine value, BUT it was NOT in actual. Think over it. Search for the word Companions. And study about its PROS and CONS. I hope you will be successful.

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*Originally posted by rehman1: *

009.117
YUSUFALI: Allah turned with favour to the Prophet, the Muhajirs, and the Ansar,- who followed him in a time of distress, after that the hearts of a part of them had nearly swerved (from duty); but He turned to them (also): for He is unto them Most Kind, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Allah hath turned in mercy to the Prophet, and to the Muhajirin and the Ansar who followed him in the hour of hardship. After the hearts of a party of them had almost swerved aside, then turned He unto them in mercy. Lo! He is Full of Pity, Merciful for them.
SHAKIR: Certainly Allah has turned (mercifully) to the Prophet and those who fled (their homes) and the helpers who followed him in the hour of straitness after the hearts of a part of them were about to deviate, then He turned to them (mercifully); surely to them He is Compassionate, Merciful.

Allah has forgiven the Prophet,the Muhaajiroon and the Ansaar who followed him in the time of distress after the hearts of a group of them
had nearly deviated(from the right path,but He accepted their repentence.Certainly He is full of kindness to them,Most merciful(Raheem).9-117
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Aslam-o-Alakum! Explanation to these verses has already been given above. Those who want to do some more research over it. Kindly go little back and read from there. Explanation through Aahdeeth e Mubarikha has been avoided to provide you less reading material to save your time. Only Quranic Ayat are given. Please don’t fall in to misguidance.

Wasalam,

Best Regards,

Inuit

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*Originally posted by Code_Red: *
Applying ifs and buts is not our duty, Allah is the only judge of ours and their deeds
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Allah already told use

the character of SATAN, what he was BEFORE and what he was AFTER
the character of SAAMRI, What he was BEFORE and what he was AFTER

and similarly if you look among the people of Allah, example of HUR is in front of you.

What he was BEFORE and what he was AFTER

ONLY that one is GOOD whose END is GOOD. This is a simple formula. Allah Told us.

QURAN is giving you LOTS of Examples.

And don’t say GOOD, the bad and the BAD, GOOD, and DON’T Even mix it up AS Quran said.

Wasalam

inuit

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Why don’t you explain it. This is from Koran.
You don’t have an answer…

:konfused:

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*Originally posted by inuit: *
Answer 1:

See its all conditional. These verses do not include ALL the companions. Qur’an often uses the phrase "believers among them" or "those who receded in belief among them" which shows it does not address the whole companions. In fact some hypocrites were among the companions. If hypocrites were known among the companions they would be no longer hypocrites and would become known enemy.

1-so in ur opinion who were the hypocrates......

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Before this thread turns into a bashing session. I'd like to request that this thread be kept clean because I will refer others to it. I don't want it closed but worse comes to worst, you know what happens.

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*Originally posted by bao bihari: *
1-so in ur opinion who were the hypocrates......
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First you define the Sahaba as per Sunni belief, give their total number; how many were they?. and segregate them from hypocrites after the life of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) then i will tell you. Who were the hypocrites? Make sure each and every one must fulfill the defined criteria.