Re: Three Muslims shot dead in the US
^it's not like I've parked my car in front of your house...why are you taking it so personally?
guess you're trolling as usual.
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Have you gone cuckoo?
This is not about you or me. I gave an opinion. And have been attacked by you. And I am the one taking it so personally?
I suggest you take a few deep breaths.
There there. Isn't that better?
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You need to calm down too...bro. No need to dig for "for or against" the issue.
And what if we don't stop calling it a hate crime.... Whatchya gonna do? It's like you own the US or something.
You can call it what you want. I ain't gonna do notn, sista.
I don't have "to own the US or some'n to exercise my right to an opinion - which is, let us wait for the evidence before calling it a hate crime.
Got to go. You have a good day, you hear?
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The authorities are investigating the murders, including whether it was a hate crime. It is dangerous to jump to a conclusion that it was. Per the authotlrities, the shooter was obsessed abt parking space violations.
The details are coming out slowly. This type of.incident has been the exception in the US. Jumping to conclusions before details are clear does no one any favors.
yet the media is quick to jump the guns if the killer is a Muslim. as you'd have observed this case is being closely followed by Muslim countries.
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Firstly the American media tried to avoid the story, once it created waves on the social media they had to discuss it albeit on a low scale. The family of the slain people claim that it was a hate crime, the wife of the shooter says its parking space related…no investigation done yet, but what stance is their media selling now? We have seen countless attacks in recent past where as killings by non Muslims have been propagated as lone wolfs or having emotional issues and those done by Muslims to be shown as to be done in the name of religion.
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yet the media is quick to jump the guns if the killer is a Muslim. as you'd have observed this case is being closely followed by Muslim countries.
I agree with the first half. Though I can't recall of an incident when the Muslim persons actions was not tied to religion. Correct me if I am wrong.
To add, when blacks are unnecessarily killed repeatedly by police the media has been giving the latter a free pass. When a deranged African American murdered two police officers, the incident was portrayed as justification for police behavior. Not taking into account one was systematic. Other was a deranged individuals actions.
on this case, we have to wait and see what the truth is.
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Southie at it again. Trying his hard to defend the dumb US media.
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The murders were execution style, which leads me to believe it was "hate crime" and not "parking rage". However, as another poster has pointed out, Hicks has been charged with 1st degree murder and in the state of NC, that's death sentence if convicted. Can't do much more than that.
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Why not? People like him run the media. Media thrives on people who have a knack for spreading misinformation, lies, perversion and deviation in sexuality, and above all HATE whether directed at Muslims, parents or other believers... those on straight part or striving to be. What will the present day mainstream media do without people / defenders like him? It will seize to exist.
Southie at it again. Trying his hard to defend the dumb US media.
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Why not? People like him run the media. Media thrives on people who have a knack for spreading misinformation, lies, perversion and deviation in sexuality, and above all HATE whether directed at Muslims, parents or other believers... those on straight part or striving to be. What will the present day mainstream media do without people / defenders like him? It will seize to exist.
That may all be true; however a few things to keep in context.
Firstly, we do not belittle or mob-lynch other fellow members regardless of our disagreements. Islam teaches us to debate eloquently, or just say Salaam and move on.
Secondly, it is a very sad incident, but we should know and appreciate that InshaAllah the three victim of this heinous act are Shuhada, and in the best of places. May Allah accept their intercession for other believers after Rasool Allah (s.a.w.)'s intercession.
Lastly, Allah is the best of judges, and anyone who harms any believer will be answerable to Allah ultimately even if they get away with their crimes in this life. So let us not despair, and know that Sabr is the best thing to adopt when all else seems futile. HisbunAllah wa ni'mal wakil; Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us).
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“On the day of the murders, Deah had just returned by bus. The only one with a car was the younger sister Razan, who had already parked earlier in the day. The point being: There was no “parking dispute” in close proximity to the actual murders.”
Friend: This Was No ‘Parking’ Murder
There you go people…next? But will this firsthand account be broadcast and investigated? Yea, didn’t think so. And if this “mentally unstable” person had beef with everyone in the complex, then why these three? What was he doing inside their home? Wouldn’t it make more sense that a truly deranged person who wasn’t targeting anyone in particular would go on a shooting spree in the parking lot itself or a common area…And if it was indeed an argument gone wrong, why do we have THREE innocent souls shot execution style with bullets to their brains? Wouldn’t the shots be more randomly fired? I am going from shock and disbelief to grief and now to anger…I can’t stop thinking about my nephews and nieces and cousins who live on their own college campuses, my family, friends and religious community shouldn’t have to live in this fear
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Southie at it again. Trying his hard to defend the dumb US media.
I have done no such thing, bhenji. I agreed with Ali Syed about the media. I ain't defending no media here.
I am also NOT saying this is NOT a hate crime. I am simply saying let us see where the investigation leads. And let me add - let us see if authorities are transparent and fair during the process.
I ain't no hater. Don't be hatin on me.
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Why not? People like him run the media. Media thrives on people who have a knack for spreading misinformation, lies, perversion and deviation in sexuality, and above all HATE whether directed at Muslims, parents or other believers... those on straight part or striving to be. What will the present day mainstream media do without people / defenders like him? It will seize to exist.
Say it ain't so Sady. Say our truce agreement is still in effect.
Now could you kindly pass me that aaloo
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That may all be true; however a few things to keep in context.
Firstly, we do not belittle or mob-lynch other fellow members regardless of our disagreements. Islam teaches us to debate eloquently, or just say Salaam and move on. Secondly, it is a very sad incident, but we should know and appreciate that InshaAllah the three victim of this heinous act are Shuhada, and in the best of places. May Allah accept their intercession for other believers after Rasool Allah (s.a.w.)'s intercession. Lastly, Allah is the best of judges, and anyone who harms any believer will be answerable to Allah ultimately even if they get away with their crimes in this life. So let us not despair, and know that Sabr is the best thing to adopt when all else seems futile. HisbunAllah wa ni'mal wakil; Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us).
I agree with your post. I respectfully disagree with your first sentence -"that may be all true".
Since Sady post referred to me when she said "people like him run the media", allow me to categorically say this part is not true.
Thanks.
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From the article that khati posted above…
Last week when I, along with 13 other Muslim Americans, met with President Obama at the White House, I explained my concern that given the recent rise in anti-Muslim bigotry, I feared that we could wake up one day to the news that someone had gone on a shooting spree targeting Muslim Americans.
Tragically, less than a week later, that very thing may have happened in North Carolina.
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The murders were execution style, which leads me to believe it was "hate crime" and not "parking rage". However, as another poster has pointed out, Hicks has been charged with 1st degree murder and in the state of NC, that's death sentence if convicted. Can't do much more than that.
You miss the point.
Much more can be said and done that that.
We can bring in all Atheists, or Americans for that matter, and demand a public penance. Is freedom to blame? Democracy? Is there something inherently violent about atheism?
Of course, it is an irrational narrative to follow, but that seems to be par for the course when Muslim fingers are on the trigger.
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Calm down. We don't know of this was a hate crime.
Certainly wasnt a love crime... Still, its does seem rather planned. Apparently they were killed execution style.
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Southie at it again. Trying his hard to defend the dumb US media.
Emotions aside, Southie did say that the Media tend to be bias. Beyond that, he is right that at this point there isn't enough evidence to assume that they were killed for being Muslim. It may indeed be a crazed individual upset over a parking spot. Their religion may have been involved, but that has to be ascertained. Making such accusations while understandable, is still unjust, as it has not been proven through trial. And just as we ourselves would expect a fair trial regardless of what we are accused off, we should reserve judgment until all the facts are in.
Regardless of what happens ,this guy is going to jail for a very long time. And judging by the shape of him, he will be lucky he doesnt end up having a heart attack while inside.
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Certainly wasnt a love crime... Still, its does seem rather planned. Apparently they were killed execution style.
No, it was not a love crime.
Yes, it does seem planned.
Yes, they were killed execution style.
What is not clear is if they were killed BECAUSE they were muslims. Or due to some simmering dispute.
The speed with which folks across the globe have jumped to a conclusion that this can ONLY be because the victims were muslims is a bit disconcerting.
What are your thoughts? Do you think there is enough evidence to support the near consensus among the Muslim community that HAD to be a hate crime?
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OK. Had not seen your post 38. Thanks!