Go through all the ministers in this link…
http://cabsec.nic.in/coumin.htm
and you will find that BJP-RSS and Shiv Sena minsters account for 23 of the 31 Cabinet seats (75 %).
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*Originally posted by dhir: *
Do you also know how many states do BJP rule (is in power) at the moment? YOu will be surprised to know.
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Dhir - He knows everything. :)
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
There was violence against Muslims in Aligarh as well the other day, pointing to an ever increasing hostility towards Muslims across India.
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Yes to an extent there is hostility there is prejudice, but it doesnt really help that most Muslims in India are in the lower income class, under educated and unemployed. It doesnt help matters that family planning is not very succesfull either.
Now I agree its unfair to generalise that with all Muslims, but that is the perception. Remember Hitler Modi's statement related to huge number kids all repairing cycles...
It is when the education level is low that such problems arise.
Moreover, there is a ghetto mentality. Long before all this Gujarat violence started, people started living in Muslim areas Hindu areas, etc, it is like a tinderbox being readied for the burning.
I come from Kerala, wher the literacy rete overall has been touted to be at a high 95% and the standard of life has been compared to that of Europe, and one of the states where communal harmony has been showcased for a long time with a few minor incidents here and there, but even here, the least educated are the Muslims, the most backward in attitude are the Muslims, and that is saddening. I grew up with my Muslim classmates, and believe me we saw no difference. we would even make excuses so that my firends could cut class on Friday afternoon to go to the Mosque. But the coexistance was because of the element of mixing of the lack of the ghetto attitude.
The answer is spread out, and remember Gujurat is not the only state in India. Learn from the past, and try to make sure that the factors that led to the situation being so bad are not repeted. Spend that effort in educating the young Muslims, not just a madrassa education, but also with the mainstream schools. Let them learn the true Jihad, not just the Jihad of violence. This applies equally to girls as well as boys. As long as this does not happen and the stereotype Muslim remains a taxi or auto driver, the perceptions will not change.
This is not westernisation, just adaptation to survive.
The other thing is that end of day India was set up as a secular state, and the mistakes of our legislative heroes is the crass appeasement...reservation for this reservation for that, different set of rules for different religions, ridiculous.
The only answer is to have similar rules for all citizens, and those who cannot live under those rules can be given the option to go wherever they want.
But then where is the leadership? The Delhi Juma Masjid Imam the infamous Mr Bukhari? Or the jokers of the Babri Masjid Committee? They have the foresight of snails and seem to display the intelligence of simians. I mean other than appearing with big beards they show no qualities of human beings let alone Muslims.
Guys get the drift? There has to be a willingness within the community a joint effort to get out of the cornered animal syndrome. The Indian judiciary has been terrific, more so the Supreme court. That much should give confidence....
Yes but then most importantly if there is a conflict between whether he is an Indian Muslim or a Muslim Indian well that has to be sorted out first....
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*Originally posted by Toddytapper: *
...but it doesnt really help that most Muslims in India are in the lower income class, under educated and unemployed. It doesnt help matters that family planning is not very succesfull either. ....
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Do you have a comparative study of Muslims, Hindus, Christians in terms of "economic", "education" and other areas?
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*Originally posted by Changez_like: *
Do you have a comparative study of Muslims, Hindus, Christians in terms of "economic", "education" and other areas?
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Do I have the study at hand..No. Do I know that a study has been done No! but how does it matter?
Like I said "As long as this does not happen and the stereotype Muslim remains a taxi or auto driver, the perceptions will not change. "
Does this mean that there is no such study and that the figures will not be like what I said?
I speak from the facts that I see everyday.
And another thing. Why did you pick up only on that one line. This is exactly my point. Not one person is willing to suggest the way ahead, merely content in arguing... By mere birth as a muslim is a person prevented from doing wrong? Once you can accept the shortcomings, you can move ahead....
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*Originally posted by Changez_like: *
Do you have a comparative study of Muslims, Hindus, Christians in terms of "economic", "education" and other areas?
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The Indian Muslims have been mostly
converts from the low castes of Hindu society and they faced acute poverty
and illiteracy even at the height of the Mughal rule.