This is not self-defence, this is GENOCIDE.

Mosques, once used for prayer now used to store weapons thanks to Hamas. Thousands of rockets have been fired into Israel over the last 12 months and if your hit by one your dead, that is hardly like a small kid spitting. Again, Hamas's own charter states it's goal is to destroy Israel, it has had summer camps for kids to train them to become terrorists. You would be foolish to think Hamas is the victim in any of this.

and yet those thousands of rockets in the last 8 years have killed 20. If you don't give people their basic human rights, what do you expect? Flowers? Of course not, you would expect resistance. Hamas is not terrorizing as they are portrayed to be, they are only resisting.

And whats wrong with that charter? Mind explaining?

When you're oppressed and cut off from basic needs, more of these charters should exist to end oppression.

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Israel has sent ground forces into the Gaza Strip after a week of air strikes to try to halt rocket attacks by Palestinian militants.
Its troops were reported to be engaged in heavy clashes with Hamas fighters in northern Gaza. Both sides have reported casualties in the fighting.
The UN secretary general called for an immediate halt to operations.
But an emergency Security Council meeting failed to agree a united approach to the Gaza conflict.
As dawn broke in Gaza a large plume of black smoke could be seen rising from part of the northern strip while the sound of exploding artillery shells - could also be heard. The shelling had continued through the night.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7809959.stm

Please read the entire article, and watch the video embedded on the link page.

Those (in my opinion) are Cluster Bombs. The worst of their kind. Wasn’t U.S. urging nations to give up Cluster Bombs? Why hasn’t Israel complied?

Such slaughter, bloodshed, and inhumane operations could only come from U.S. and Israel.

God help the innocent Palestinians who face a ruthless oppressor that will stop at nothing to annihilate the Palestinians. The longer Israel continues this policy of neo-nazism which roots from the Zionist Doctorine, the more resistance Israel will face not only from Palestinians but other sympathizers from across the world who see Israel as an aggressor. Then Israel can’t plead that it is the victim because it is not. Not by the slightest.

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Who were the real sufferers of the Holocaust? Was it the germans because they had these greedy people living among them? Or was it the 6million poor jews who lost their lives?

The 1.5million people are the biggest sufferers of this chicken crap tactics by the zionists. They live in the most dense place in the world that eat grass for dinner, that your democratic gov't forces them to live in. You stole their land, you occupied their land and now you have surrounded their land from 3sides. They fire rockets you can buy from a local gun shop, that have killed how many people have been killed by these rockets in 3months? 4? 10, at most?

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^ only 20 in the last 8 years.

The rockets are justified because of the fact that Israel has been sending their own rockets in the shape of blocking of medical supplies, food, water, electricity, etc...

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rockets are justified?
no they are not.
lets have the moral courage to call all wrongs wrong.

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The Raw Story | LEAKED: graphic, uncensored video shows carnage in Gaza

including israel’s illegal occupation of palastine :aq:

sure, including Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. an occupation that happened after Israel took the land due to wars that were waged against it.

Had both sides accepted 1948 borders, none of this would have happened. Palestinians are now fighting for less than what they had 60 years ago.

Blame Israel for its record of atrocities, but lets not say that palestinians did not do anything wrong. The suicide bombings against civilians for years being one example.

Sometimes I go back to the reports that Hamas is actually an Israeli creation to create circumstances which would drown out the legitimate demands of palestinians under the dumb moves of Hamas.

It is easy to use BIG words like genocide. But this word is hardly applicable to killing those who are involved in gang warfare.

Many on this forum say, Hammas rockets killed 8 Israelis, then Israel should kill 8 Palestinians based on the rule of parity. The problem is that modern law enforcement is not a cricket match, where each team scores to match the opponent. And Hammas should never treat this rocket bazi as a shughal maila or a cricket match.

Israelis are responding to the Jihadi terror just like Pakistani government is treating the militants in Swat. Jihadis use mosques, and Pak army has to attack the mosque. That's just the nature of things.

For Pakistanis it is much easier to understand the gang warfare by Jihadis. In Swat they started the shariat movement in 1990s, and they killed people in the name of Islam. Now Jihadis have descended to the worst possible atrocities like desecrating corpses, and chopping off limbs in addition to committing suicide bombing. Peshaware and Bannu cities are regular attacked using mortars and homemade rockets.

Many on this forum support these Jihadis in the name of Islam. Where in Islam it was allowed to rain down rockets on civilian population? Where in Islam it was allowed to commit suicide attacks?

Hamas is not interested in Palestinian liberation, they are interested in gang warfare in the name of Islam. That's all.

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^^ And thats what American Media thnks so... doesn't matter if true or not, you have to believe it...

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A wonderful article by Orya Mabool Jaan

http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1300306704&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20090105

Genocide has to be a part of Israeli state policy for Israel to suvive as a Jewish state in to the century.

There is no other way around it.

Rocket fired are legal by Hamas, when you blockade a whole country to the outside world, no water, no bread, no shelter. This has been a war against the people in Gaza for a while now.

Jews need to be reminded that its barely been 60years since the holocaust.

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Can Israel do anything without backing of her US :confused:

USA and the Britain should have moved all the zionists into their own territories.
These have no shame, the hospitals are over run with dead bodies. I hope Hamas steps up and does some damage.

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GAZA CITY, Gaza – An Israeli bombardment hit outside a U.N. school where hundreds of Palestinians had sought refuge on Tuesday, and Palestinian medics said at least 34 people died — many of them children — as international outrage grew over civilian deaths.
It was the second fatal strike in the vicinity of a U.N. school in hours, and the deadliest assault since Israel sent ground forces into Gaza last weekend. The ground operation is part of a larger offensive against the ruling Hamas militant group that has killed nearly 600 Palestinians, including dozens of civilians, according to U.N. and Palestinian officials.

Israeli strike hits outside UN school, 34 dead - Yahoo! News

Israeli terrorism reaching new heights. Now U.N. schools are being targeted. What will U.N. do? Wait for U.S. to nod?

Pathetic.

Israeli terrorism reaching new heights everyday, and Mir Jafars of Muslims come on here offering excuses and justification.

These corrupt muslim gov't are just standing their
and watching the massacre.

Why doesn't Egypt open its borders.

^egypt has hosni mubarak in charge since 1981 or so and he has held egypt under a state of emergency ever since to this day! a thirty year state of emergency! he is furnished as second biggest, behined israel of course, beneficiary of US aid. the less i say about hosni the better

this wasnt just genocide, it was a planned genocide with world pwers backing and help. its a complete disgrace to humanity and to moral ethics in general.

its no coincidence that this happend in the shadows of pak-india tensions as a result of mumbai blasts. if you look back to lebanon 2006 the circumstances in which the offensive was launched closely mirror those for this gaza masacre.