There is no god

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good question.. someone started thinking on their own :)

trace the origins of it.. u wouldn't find this "shahadah" verbatim in the Qur'an.. One would think something as important as the proclamation of one's belief in their religion would be in the Book!! So where did it come from?

We have ample evidence from the Qur'an of what the earlier prophets were told and how they proclaimed their belief..

2:130] And who forsakes the religion of Ibrahim but he who makes himself a fool, and most certainly We chose him in this world, and in the hereafter he is most surely among the righteous.

2:131] When his Lord said to him, Be a Muslim, he said: *I submit myself to the Lord of the worlds. *أَسْلَمْتُ لِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ )

16:123] Then We revealed to you: Follow the faith of Ibrahim, the upright one, and he was not of the polytheists.

40:66] Say: I am forbidden to serve those whom you call upon besides Allah when clear arguments have come to me from my Lord, and I am commanded that I should submit to the Lord of the worlds. ( أُسْلِمَ لِرَبِّ
الْعَالَمِينَ

Well since some mod deleted it without writing a note.. here it is again..

**if a mod deletes something, u dont need to act like a smarty and put it again, u accept the action and if u have any queries u forward it to the mod/admin

***If u delete a portion of my post, have the decency to leave a remark, preferably pointing out why and which rule was violated.. If u edited it too fast and it doesn't leave an audit trail, how'm i supposed to know what happened?

I could easily wipe off these remarks from you too.. till Gizzy bhai jaan finds a real solution.. a technical way out for mod comments to be indelible..otherwise, I have spare time and we could play this all day :)
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Ravage: I was classifying Jews, Christians, Hanifs etc as 'essentially' monothiests. Well obviously there is an ideological difference of some sort, as both yourself and Curious one have explained.

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i dont agree with the breaking up of it in parts....
but here is something u cud relate to....

Quran 2:256
.... And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break.....

i recall dr jamal badawi saying in one of his lectures in bahrain that every mo'men has to be a kaafir (of taaghoot) before being a mo'men (in Allah)....

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you must be an atheist when it comes to taking gods other than Allah swt. you must reject all other gods.

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Why’s it so hard to understand “There is no deity except God”?

It is rejecting all deities except God, so nobody is a deity (a being worthy of worship), don’t matter whether it’s Krishna, Abdul Qaadir Jilaani :rehm:, Hazrat Ali :razi:, Angel Gabriel :as:, Nabi Mohammed :saw: or Nabi Jesus :as:, none of them are worthy of worship (prayer, dua, invocation, pooja).

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It is a way to reject all the false Gods first then to approve the one and only true Lord, Allah.

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I think it definately has something to do with the Arabic language. There are numerous examples of when a sentence starts with "there is no.... but...."

Another example of when a sentence from the Quran can be taken the wrong way:

Sure Maun:

[quote]
Woe to the praying ones, who are unmindful of their prayers; and do good only to be seen.

[/quote]

WaSalaam

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Humhainpakistani:

You are stupid

but if you do not waste your time
:flower1:

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My hafiz spoke about this negation before Kutbah today. Basically he said the negation means, "There is no" as in the earth cannot exist, the humans won't exist, there wouldn't be a universe etc. but since God exists these things are created by Him. It's pretty simple.