The Use of Qur'anic Words in Indian songs

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I am totally appalled by the consistent and inapproriate use of words such as Masha’Allah, Insha’Allah and Allah are used in Indian songs in such vulgarity as a semi naked actress singing and prancing around hugging, kissing etc. while quoting words from our most holiest book.

Later on these same songs are played in night clubs and discos where there is openly flowing alcohol and abundant promiscuity.

I request all Muslim brothers and sisters to protest against this attack against our religion.

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Imtiaz,

Why limit the protest to Islam ??? YOu should extent the protest against saying Jesus Cristttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!! in films made the west.

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Imtiaz you are protesting at a wrong place...this non-sense is going on in religion forum and no one is there to take any action. people like (muslim786, faceup, logical) are saying stuff like...saying "kaaliimaa" is shirkk and we shouldnt follow QURAN and SUNNAH, but creat our own things in islam based on good deed. NO one is there to take no action.

People should post TRUE INFO about islam and INFO that is authentic according to QURAN and hadith, they are putting the ideas of their ancestors and rituals that hindus do they are saying with refference to some made up hadith that those rituals are right in islam.
Hindus are here with muslim like names and are creating more and more trouble...shame on the administration and people who moderate these forums that NO ONE is doing NOTHING to prevent the FALSE info being put up there..

ONLY information about islam that should be put in religion forum is and should be FROM QURAN AND HADITH>!!!

Jaawan

till next time**Keep_It_Simple_Stupid**

**Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!

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I agree with you Jaawan. The religion forum is providing more misinformation and doubts than any good and that is why I have stopped reading the posts there at all.

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Well I am afraid that is the state of Muslims worldwide, we fight and bicker amongst our selves over silly matters and fail to take point over the issues that really matter, such as spreading the message of peace and preventing the Kafirs from making fun of religion.

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Originally posted by Imtiaz Khan:
Well I am afraid that is the state of Muslims worldwide, we fight and bicker amongst our selves over silly matters and fail to take point over the issues that really matter, such as spreading the message of peace and preventing the Kafirs from making fun of religion.
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Imtiaz this world is by & large not islamic.Ask the indian moslems how they put up with haram puja around them & idolatory,castism,injustice against harijans,Those coming from Pakistan have not had as much practice living with & among unislamic atmosphere. What can you do .In america there is freedom of speech On the one hand indian moslem can mob the indian embassy if there is riot & hurl abuseses burn effigy which they cant do in india On the other hand the same FREEDOM of speech to hindu cannot prevent them from sayiong any word ,i mean they could say even worse things with allah.Think allah they are reffering to god ,there own god shiva krishna or any of the score of them.For u know allah means khuda means god may also mean ishwar for hindu.So cool it judge the reality It is in the game we can take advantage of this right of speaking anything we want including our religion which is sweet revenge because in india you cant do that freely also.As to fun making we make enough fun of hanuman,ganesh,snake god,rat god etc. dont we?? LOL think of the jokes about sardar !

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I really dont understand your point and how you can compare the great religion of Islam to mind numbingly stupid ‘puja’ of stones.

Also I cannot remember any film or drama made by any muslim where Hinduism has been demeaned in any way whatsoever!

Yet our religion is being made fool of and we continue to do nothing…surely our predecessors would turn in ther graves!

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I believe words like 'allah' are used for centuries in urdu poetry. Many qawwalis on women or ishq or wine will have it. If these words could be used in songs sung in kothas (which was the place of singing in older times), what is problem if films have it. It is not something new. Now if this practice is not objected for centuries, why suddenly people are getting hypersensitive.

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Originally posted by Imtiaz Khan:
**I really dont understand your point and how you can compare the great religion of Islam to mind numbingly stupid 'puja' of stones.

Also I cannot remember any film or drama made by any muslim where Hinduism has been demeaned in any way whatsoever!

Yet our religion is being made fool of and we continue to do nothing....surely our predecessors would turn in ther graves!
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y Imtiaz Khan:
**I really dont understand your point and how you can compare the great religion of Islam to mind numbingly stupid 'puja' of stones.

Also I cannot remember any film or drama made by any muslim where Hinduism has been demeaned in any way whatsoever!

Yet our religion is being made fool of and we continue to do nothing....surely our predecessors would turn in ther graves!
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Bhai Imtiaz,
Lets say we dont like the song Allah.allah.What are u going to do ?Who are u going to protest against?The record co. they are in India,To Usa they say if it is not obscene its freedom of speech.& remember these even if (which is impossible) there was such a law can you enforce it.Video piracy is illegal haVENT YOU COPIED MOVIES from indian video casette to distribute it among pakistanis.Wake up before you think of protesting dont just go by how offended but WHAT CAN U DO ABOUT IT n o t h i n g ,so why raise u r blood pressure unnecessarily!

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[quote]
Originally posted by Imtiaz Khan:
**I really dont understand your point and how you can compare the great religion of Islam to mind numbingly stupid 'puja' of stones.

Also I cannot remember any film or drama made by any muslim where Hinduism has been demeaned in any way whatsoever!

Yet our religion is being made fool of and we continue to do nothing....surely our predecessors would turn in ther graves!
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y Imtiaz Khan:
**I really dont understand your point and how you can compare the great religion of Islam to mind numbingly stupid 'puja' of stones.

Also I cannot remember any film or drama made by any muslim where Hinduism has been demeaned in any way whatsoever!

Yet our religion is being made fool of and we continue to do nothing....surely our predecessors would turn in ther graves!
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Bhai Imtiaz,
Lets say we dont like the song Allah.allah.What are u going to do ?Who are u going to protest against?The record co. they are in India,To Usa they say if it is not obscene its freedom of speech.& remember these even if (which is impossible) there was such a law can you enforce it.Video piracy is illegal haVENT YOU COPIED MOVIES from indian video casette to distribute it among pakistanis.Wake up before you think of protesting dont just go by how offended but WHAT CAN U DO ABOUT IT n o t h i n g ,so why raise u r blood pressure unnecessarily!

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[quote]
Originally posted by Imtiaz Khan:
Well I am afraid that is the state of Muslims worldwide, we fight and bicker amongst our selves over silly matters and fail to take point over the issues that really matter, such as spreading the message of peace and preventing the Kafirs from making fun of religion.
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Imtiaz,yes moslem fight among themselves even when there is no difference atleast in the eye of a hindu.Whats the diifference so as to seperate yourself like you seperated from hindus??in Wahabis,shia Sunni,Hanafi,Ahmedi,Bareilvie,Deobabndhavi,I only learn from you moslems on religion forum.

If you always need a cause to fight for modslems mKE THREE MISTAKE
1/THEY PICK THE WRONG REASONS FOR FIGHT
2/THEY PICK A NON WINNABLE FIGHT LIKE ESTABLISHING KHILAFAT.DO U THINK ITS POSSIBLE TO HAVE KHILAFAT IN MELLINEUM
3/FIRST U FIGHT WHEN U SHOULD BE EITHER RELAXING CELEBRATING ON YOUR GLORY, ACHIEVEMENTS-- EVERY RACE HAS SOMTHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT.

FOR EXAMPLE ENJOY THIS SHAYER HAVING ALLAH ALLAH WRITTEN BY HINDU

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Kuch or koshish ki hai..................

Kahna , hai allah , sun ke ashaar mere,allah allah,
Sher ho gaye mere had e faani se bahar,allah allah. (Thoda jyada ho
gaya.....)

Bana ke majassma , sang tarash hi bhul gaya,
Khuda dekh le jo hunar apna to kahega, allah allah.

Uski mai jamane se kuch alag to nahin magar,
Vo kis shaoor se pilaye kya kahoon , allah allah.

Uska chehra ik deewan sa lagta hai 'Mahroom' ko,
Lab sher,lab o chashm rubai,rukh nazm,allah allah.

Ravi Mahroom'

bERNARD SHAW SAID"ISLAM IS THE GREATEST RELIGION IN THE WORLD ,BUT MOSLEMS ARE THE WORST PPL." HOW COME.THE PROOF IS IN THIS FORUM!!

I think,Sanam is right how u r hgoing to carry ut your fight against an invisible enemy as if you are a blind man trying to catch a black cat in a dark room which is'nt there!

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Imtaz

how you can compare the great religion of Islam to mind numbingly stupid 'puja' of stones.

Your toleration and respect for others blows me off. What you are saying is, respect my God and my ways because I think they are superior. Hindus think their ways are superior ..you can put down others as much as you want but it will change nothing, it will only prove that you are close minded bigot. BTW, Hindus don't worship stones they think of God almighty when they worship pray to that idol....why do muslims face Mecca (God does not live in one place) or bow towards Kabba and throw stones at piller?

**Also I cannot remember any film or drama made by any muslim where Hinduism has been demeaned in any way whatsoever!{/b]

Read your post demeaning idol worshiping and calling it stupid you will never get respect from others if you don't know how to give it, ...there are at least thousand posts demeaning Hinduism on this forum.

Yet our religion is being made fool of and we continue to do nothing....surely our predecessors would turn in ther graves!

Learn to respect other people and their religion, remember there is only one God and people can worship him which ever way they want. People use words like Jesus Christ or Allah and it is not meant to put anybody down.

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Sanam,

*Ask the indian moslems how they put up with haram puja around them *

What is haram puja, can you please explain.

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Also I cannot remember any film or drama made by any muslim where Hinduism has been demeaned in any way whatsoever!<<<<<

Khan Sahib, for that there is Quran. And not to mention the History of Islam taught in schools in Pakistan. Read about Fattah Pur Sikri, and some other Islami warriors and their Love for Hinduism.

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Originally posted by Rani:
**Sanam,

*Ask the indian moslems how they put up with haram puja around them *

What is haram puja, can you please explain.**
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ram puja, can you please explain.**
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Rani i ll be glad to .Indian moslems hear puja & see hindu ceremonies like breaking of co co nut at every minesterial auspiscious presence,Customs totally unislamic like feet touching,namaste,tilak on fore head ,aarti ,worshipping with pomp & celabration galore Durga puja sarwaswatri puja ganesh puja,...i could name as many of them as 50 such occasiuons.
But thats inevitable ,what is ridiculous that they call it secularism.Atleast in saudi arabia they do everything according to islam & eventhough minority are in most part of saudi they never PRETEND to be SECULAR like india.

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Too many posts to repsond to individually…

Akmed786: I agree with you, we should extend our protest over films made about Jesus Christ.

Jawaan: I again agree with you, we should ONLY follow the Quran and Sunnah, there is no compromise in Islam, we cannot and must not invent things to suit ourselves.

Ullu: ‘I believe words like ‘allah’ are used for centuries in urdu poetry.’

The Qur’an itself is beautifully poetic, I am not saying poetry is wrong, what I am saying that Music is frowned upon in Islam, but when you add a semi naked woman (almost pornographic), strutting her wobbly bits kissing and hugging a man while quoting words from the Qur’an surely you must admit is wrong. I am also totally against Qawalis, they have no place in an Islamic society.

Rani: ‘Your toleration and respect for others blows me off. What you are saying is, respect my God and my ways because I think they are superior.’

Islam IS superior, it is the Muslims that are bad. Thats the reason why for over 1100 years, Muslims were leading the world in every aspect be it science, medicine, mathematics, no other religion can boast such a record.

I respect Christianity and I respect Judaism, but how can you expect me respect a religion which has a phallic symbol as a god?

It bears no logic.. how can you have so many gods? Does that mean that each of their gods only have limited powers in what they are able to do, if that is so, then how cna they be called gods? or are specialists in their own field, or have each of them taken a course in whatever they specialise in, are they like a business organisation where each god has a different department? So that when someone goes and prays and asks for a different thing, it gets passed on from department to department…? I am not trying to be funny here, I really DO want to understand.

So if you are Hindu please explain this to me and if it makes sense I will definitely respect the Hindu religion.

Hrithik: 2/THEY PICK A NON WINNABLE FIGHT LIKE ESTABLISHING KHILAFAT.DO U THINK ITS POSSIBLE TO HAVE KHILAFAT IN MELLINEUM

Sudan. Afghanistan. Iran. These are countries where Khilafah or Shariah in one form or another has been established and is getting STRONGER in the MILLENNIUM, everyone may not agree with them but these nations genuinely believe that they are following true Islam. Algeria and Turkey both had Islamic parties which won the general elections but due to external interference they were unable to take full control of their respective countries. You will continue to see more and more Islamic countries in the Millennium where Shariah will soon be established, I believe Egypt will be next, then Syria and then possibly Pakistan.

Sanam: ‘Video piracy is illegal haVENT YOU COPIED MOVIES from indian video casette to distribute it among pakistanis’

I dont think any Indian film is worth wasting a blank video cassette over.

‘Wake up before you think of protesting dont just go by how offended but WHAT CAN U DO ABOUT IT n o t h i n g’

I do not know if you are a Muslim, but if you are, I am saddened by your comments. Hazrat Ali (ra) was only 13 when he joined Prophet Muhammad (saw) and look what they achieved? Dont get me wrong I am NOT saying that this THE issue, in fact this is a very menial issue, but the fact that the Indian film industry can get away with it while the Muslims DO NOTHING shows what the Muslims have become. I believe that the Muslims as a whole today are worst ever since the death of Prophet Muhammad (saw).

And I agree with Hrithik when he quotes 'BERNARD SHAW SAID"ISLAM IS THE GREATEST RELIGION IN THE WORLD, BUT MOSLEMS ARE THE WORST PPL."

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Imtiz

NYA wrote....Khan Sahib, for that there is Quran. And not to mention the History of Islam taught in schools in Pakistan. Read about Fattah Pur Sikri, and some other Islami warriors and their Love for Hinduism.

You have not answered NYA post...it not okay for Quran to call people Kaffirs and preach killing of idol worshippers and non-mulims have right to point it but and question it. For peaceful existance you need to understand concept of equality and superiority has no place in it. Nobody has need to make you understand anything it is in you best interest to show respect to others so that they can respect you. BTW, look up the meaning of secularism....it doesn't mean that all religions are banned.

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what bs! what a lame excuse to start a fight. "quranic words" indeed! lol! why dun yu give us an example?

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Originally posted by queer:
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what bs! what a lame excuse to start a fight. "quranic words" indeed! lol! why dun yu give us an example? **
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All words of Arabic origin are Quranic (or at least used in Hadiths)

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Sanam

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Originally posted by sanam:
** Rani i ll be glad to .Indian moslems hear puja & see hindu ceremonies like breaking of co co nut at every minesterial auspiscious presence,Customs totally unislamic like feet touching,namaste,tilak on fore head ,aarti ,worshipping with pomp & celabration galore Durga puja sarwaswatri puja ganesh puja,...i could name as many of them as 50 such occasiuons.
But thats inevitable ,what is ridiculous that they call it secularism.Atleast in saudi arabia they do everything according to islam & eventhough minority are in most part of saudi they never PRETEND to be SECULAR like india.**
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In India they also show muslim praying in Jama Masjid. If muslim feel so offended by Hindu as to insult them by calling their puja "Haram Puja" they should move to muslim country.

We will call ourselves whatever we want, we don't want advice from Mullah like you.