The US soldiers' war against women and children (MERGED)

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** Shocking images shame US forces **

A series of shocking pictures revealing US soldiers tying up Iraqi women and children in their own home has provoked international outrage.

The occupying forces have now come under renewed fire for their treatment of ordinary Iraqis as shown in the pictures published today by Aljazeera.net.

CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, is conducting an investigation and seeking advice before taking further action.

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Chota - Just when I thought they couldn’t sink an lower!

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pictures are not very clear. what if they are tieing rakhi on their hands? :p

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US Style Democracy: U.S arrest Iraqi for criticising them

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - American soldiers handcuffed and firmly wrapped masking tape around an Iraqi man’s mouth as they arrested him for speaking out against occupation troops.

Asked why the man had been arrested on Tuesday and put into the back of a Humvee vehicle on Tahrir Square, the commanding officer told Reuters at the scene: “This man has been detained for making anti-coalition statements.”

He refused to say what the man said.

A U.S. military spokesman said he had no immediate information on the incident.

U.S. politicians and military commanders often say they toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein so that Iraqis can enjoy free speech and democracy after years of iron-fisted rule.

Another U.S. soldier swore at Iraqis as he ordered them to move back. School teachers and young students looked on.

US Style Democracy : US Troops arrest man for criticising them!

Huh so this the so called democracy America belives in, is this the freedom of speech they always crowing to the world about America is all hot air the biggest hypocrites going! :nono:

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finally iraqis can enjoy the fruits of democracy :stuck_out_tongue: :nook:

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You can say dat again :nook:

America tells us we not doing it for the oil they keep shouting at us we doing it for the people of iraq yeah right!

we all belive that one not!

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from this article

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/11/11/britain.bush.poll.ap/index.html

Andrew Burgin, spokesman for the Stop the War Coalition, said the group hoped for 60,000 people to join an “Unwelcome Bush” march through central London November 20. In Trafalgar Square, the group plans to pull down a specially erected statue of Bush, the coalition’s Web site said.

“Protest if you will, that is your democratic right,” said Blair. “Attack the decision to go to war, though have the integrity to realize that without it, those Iraqis now tasting freedom would still be under the lash of Saddam, his sons and their henchmen.”

what freedom and liberation and that too for iraqis? many have been killed while protesting and many are in jails for raising their voices against the troops.

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Trigger happy troops

**U.S. Troops Kill Five Civilians in Iraq **
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FALLUJAH, Iraq - U.S. troops opened fire on a truck carrying live chickens near the tense town of Fallujah, killing five civilians aboard the vehicle, including a father and his two sons, relatives said Wednesday.

The shooting took place at a roadblock Tuesday night, they said. Fallujah is the site of numerous anti-American attacks and U.S. soldiers in the area have been on a high state of alert.

“They went to bring chickens … and they came back at 9 or 10 at night and we were waiting for them,” said Khalid Khalifa al-Jumaily, whose two nephews were killed on the truck. “The Americans fired on them.”

On Wednesday, reporters saw U.S. troops delivering one body from an Army ambulance to waiting families. In the morgue, reporters saw several bodies with what appeared to be gunshot wounds.

A spokesman for the U.S. military in Baghdad had no immediate information on the attack.

This weekend, U.S. jets dropped three 500-pound bombs near Fallujah after three U.S. paratroopers were wounded in an ambush.

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With growing frustrations and fear among US troops they see a “mobile” object coming towards them they start firing.

Just wait until some spokesman comes out and say “oh, we signalled them to stop, but they didn’t”.

Few days back, after the choppers were shot down, troops fired at openly at houses, bombs were dropped only at “suspected” hideouts… yeah right “suspected”. That was only a display of anger and frustration by troops against local population rising against them.

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America is losing the war in iraq day by day and these actions are an indication of their fustration and anger. They expected to receive a warm welcome as liberators similer to the liberation of France but what they have received is more casualties than during the so called war. The muslims of Iraq are a proud people, a noble people who will never submit to America. The attacks will continue and intensify until the crusaders leave and then a system of ruling will be implemented according to the wishes of the muslim peoples.

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What else do you expect? They only feel superior when they attack those who can't defend themselves.

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What else do you expect? They only feel superior when they attack those who can't defend themselves.
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true .. and when they are attack back .. then its called "terrorism" ...

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Re: The US soldiers' war against women and children

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It is these sort of images of the behaviour of US soldiers that are being shown across the world, and presumably to people in Iraq? This will no doubt boost the ranks of the Iraqi resistance forces...

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Children and women have been used by the ‘resistance’ in a couple ways. They have the women and children call for help to get the American soldiers attention and when they get close to enough they set off a bomb. They have also used women and children to smuggle weapons, and I have no doubt that they would use them as suicide bombers.

Are you outraged?

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what is happening in the second picture? the others one are not as confusing

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If your claims are independently verified, yes I am outraged.

But I make no excuses (like you always have) for the humiliation and killing of women and children by the US military in the last nine months. The pictures and stories are all there for people to see and read, and no excuses can be made, but you still end up making them. Kinda like the Democrat US Secretary of State who said the deaths of 1.5 million Iraqi children as as result of US-imposed sanctions was a "price well worth paying".

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I understand you position Malik which was do nothing and allow Saddam to stay in power, we can agree to disagree.

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I understand you position Malik which was do nothing and allow Saddam to stay in power...
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Actually that was the very famous position of your government, which bent over backwards to excuse Saddams' deeds, downplay his crimes, and arm him so he could fight a neighbour he had illegally invaded. Remember all that. Now in true Saddam style the American's have taken over where he left off, and have started butchering tens of thousands of Iraqi's just as he did. Once again we have American extremists making the same excuses, downplaying the killings of Iraqi's, and meeting the same the same sort od disdain.

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Actually if American acted as Saddam did there would be 'security' in Iraq as the U.S. could wipe out an entire village including women and children if the 'resistance' was thought to be there, but unlike Saddam the U.S. tries it's best to avoid civilian casualties and clearly a perfect system to do this has not been developed hence the allegedly thousands of Iraqi civilians killed by the U.S.. (I say allegedly because I haven’t actually read a report of the number of those killed by the U.S. in Iraq, but I’m not questioning your number)

So we keep going over these same point, the fact is Saddam killed hundreds of thousands (with some weapons from the U.S. but the majority from other countries) and while you did not like nor supported Saddam you did not support any actions to remove him either. So you may continue to condemn the U.S. for removing Saddam which in the process they allegedly killed thousands of Iraqis and I can continue to condemn those who had no plan to remove Saddam which caused the entire country to suffer as well as hundreds of thousands to die. Glad we got those points across.

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Actually if American acted as Saddam did there would be 'security' in Iraq as the U.S. could wipe out an entire village including women and children...
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And do you think that is not what the US military has done upto now? How do you think it has killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians and Iraqi soldiers? Sure in some cases it has slaughtered innocents at checkpoints and demonstrations or in their homes, but on most occasions it has done it by levelling their homes and villages by their not so smart bombs.

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As I said the method has not been perfected, but it's gotten better but not perfected, tough choices had to be made and the fact is as long as Saddam was in power the sanctions could not be lifted, it was clear that Saddam had money and choose to spend it on himself and his family but not on the Iraqi people thus for this reason alone Saddam had to be removed, yet the world was opposed to this choice of action.

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As I said the method has not been perfected, but it's gotten better but not perfected...
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What the method of killing Iraqi people on mass is being perfected by the US military occupiers? Sick.