The position of feminism will always be an ongoing struggle for feminist women even when there are no more grounds left for them to be interjecting … They’ve already won, but do not want to hear that or it will take the wind out their sails … To admit they have own means their point of existence is no longer there … That’s is a problem with every pressure group … Imagine saving the Panda but after 20 years they are no longer endangered … Who will continue to support them financially? Very few, the public would put the charity for a cause that benefits.
Then that wouldn’t be feminism would it? If an organization was actually focused on facts - not perpetuating myths - and focused as much on men’s rights as much as women’s, I would be all for supporting them. But that’s not feminism as we know it today, which is focused solely on women’s issues, whether real or imagined.
So would I. We always hear about the wage gap, which is BS. Republicans are always trying to block contraceptives but that’s more of a partisan or religious issue, since Democratic men and women oppose this. Women can vote. They can vie for any job that a man can. Yes, some groups will discriminate against them but they can’t do so openly, just like they can’t openly discriminate against me for being brown, or a Muslim. All I can do when faced with such people is put my best foot forward, not whine and moan.
You can only legislate the law, not people’s opinions.
You know, it’s interesting that you bring up the constant whinging over the supposed wage up. Personally, I know of a couple of cases where two people work in the same field or do the same thing (in one instance both of them work at the same company) and one makes more than the other. However, I’ve observed that the reason for the disparity in such cases stems from the fact that one person has some sort of advantage over the other, such as more experience, attending a more prestigious university, better contacts, or simply knowing how to better market themselves. A bit unfair? Perhaps, especially since sometimes one cannot help not having loads of experience or may not have had the means to attend a prestigious university, but definitely not a gender issue.
^Exactly. This is what has always galled me about supposed feminists of my generation. There are still certain areas where there is still quite a bit of discrimination towards women. Ironically though, the feminists don’t seem very interested in working towards rectifying this and working towards equality in these areas. Instead, they are more concerned with acquiring special privileges and special treatment in areas that are already equal.
I’m not implying that all feminists fall into this category but, unfortunately, many of the ones I’ve come across do.
Yup. Just take a glance at some of the personal issues women folk like to talk about here.
The expect their so called “entitlements” the very moment they are eligible. But heaven forbid someone tries to remind them of their responsibilities and watch them turn into rabid creatures that should be locked up in the kitchen. But they arent as bad as the twat men who defend this jackass behaviour.
This demented ideology seems to permeate feminism, or at least what the feminists have turned feminism into.
Can u provide some context? Who were the speakers? Especially who was last year’s speaker. Seems he was speaking abt rape. Only with additional information can one decide if such actions should be condemned or applauded.
Can you elaborate on wanting the benefits and not costs
2 Do you know the context? Who were the speakers? What was their history? There is a group in the US that goes around disrupting congressional hearings on certain topics such as Financial bailouts. Where the govt essentially trolled the public by providing “benefits without costs” to financial institutions. This liberal group - I forget it’s name - shouts down the speaker and disrupts the session. All part of civil disobedience.
A lecture about how men are boo-hoo’ing about how they’re hurting now with feminist ideas in full swing like equal voting rights/women in the work place/restrictions on women’s dress loosened/a woman’s right to contest rape/a woman’s right to education/a woman’s right to travel, etc etc etc…
This is a misconception. Men can be and are feminists (hold your jokes - be nice). It is simply equality for all. As for poster who used bra burning as example , that is simpky symbol. And still has a place. Doesn’t .are them extreme.
Also centrist is one who doesn’t stand for anything. If u believe in something don’t be a centrist. Go for who u believe.
The moderates in the US were overwhelmingly in favor of Iraq war. While peace loving liberals were against it - including myself. So moderate is overrated.
Women r the feminist movements worst enemy as evidenced in this thread.
This is where the real and old school feminists would disagree with you. It is this mentality that has hurt feminism more. First wave feminists would be shaking their heads in disgust reading such comments. They must be thinking in their graves what the hell have they done.
Feminism intended to end injustice done to women, it wasn’t to grant women special treatment or free pass to insult everyone else.
Dont mind pcg and co who think the riots are a good idea. Basically stupid people.
Same people have whinged and moaned about bullies, and drone on about freedom of speech bla bla poo. But no, rioting a uni lecture is feminism and acceptable.
And then continue to dribble more sh-it by playing the victim.
It is because of these degenerates that entire groups, and ultimately society as a whole, suffers.
^ such people just want to riot and be rebellious. Most of the time they don’t even know what and why they are fighting for. Just hand hand them a pitchfork and a torch and they will be your man.
Btw, I am more concerned why Southie would join PCG
I’ve also noticed that some people have the tendency to rebel simply for the sake of rebelling. I think this “rebel for the sake of rebelling” attitude is the type of mentality results in the hateful, reactionary tripe that passes as “feminism” these days.
