Correct me if Im wrong, but I've always had the impression that a father could give whatever share he wills to give his children after death. It is only in the case where no will is left, that the question of the means of dividing the fathers property into shares for inhertience comes up.
Perhaps the rule in Islam here is not very strict? That even if the property is not distributed EXACTLY TO HE HUNDRETH DECIMAL PLACE it would not be GUNNAH KABIRA and will not lead to 7th hell. Obviously, the rule can be bent to allow for justice, in case the daughter is truly in need for more than her share as prescribed by Islam. Note, also, that the inheritance system was set forth in a time when there was no obligation whatsoever on women to produce money to support their families, and Id like to believe Islam would allow us to adapt rather than to be rigid and unjust.
telling me that Islam says that is a not a logical reason. Why does it say that in Islam? If everyone equal in the eyes of God, why one keeps and other shares? Thats a win win situation for females then.... either a sister gets it or the wife....
Up to 1/3 of the total estate can be given to whomever the parent wants, as stated in a will. Typically this is charity, but it can just as well be a needy daughter.
Does it bring it up to “equal”? That depends on the circumstances…it may even be more at times.
It should be understood that the divying up process is done as per a last will and testimant.
There quran pretty much lays out a rules to avoid conflict and to avoid family members being shut out over family politics.
Nothing stops a person from gifting portions of their estate prior to solidifying a will, so if one really does have family members in need, it is kind of absurd to think that a person would wait until thier death to support them.
How are you? Men and women are not equal in some circumstances, but overall they are equal. If anyone says “No, men and women are equal”. Then ask them, “All Prophets were Male”. Allah Tallah made men stronger, so don’t we think that men have stronger responsibilities.
This is incorrect.
Unfortunately, it is one of the most common misconceptions about Sharia. 4 witnesses are needed to make a public accusation of adultery.
This is not a requirement for rape. Otherwise, nobody in the history of Islamic world would ever have been convicted of rape.
People are not the same by any stretch of the imagination. Some are rich, some are poor etc etc. Men and Women have different roles in society. The man has a financial obligation to care for his wife, which is why he is allocated more money.
The women has less, because the money is for her to use however she pleases. If she chooses to not get married, then that's fine, no-one is stopping her, but the inheritance law is made with the intention that marriage will happen - since it is so highly recommended in Islam.
How are you? Men and women are not equal in some circumstances, but overall they are equal.
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I am still trying to figure out if both are equal then they are equal no ifs, buts or maybes required. if there is a difference then there is a difference.
Special circumstances or not, does not matter.
I am not advocating christianity, but at the same time in our religion I do not see that men and women are treated same. I don't even see religion portraying them as same.
In inheritance matter we all say that maybe its because the males have to support the families afterwards and all. Well I say maybe it is not so, maybe it is designed to be in favor towards males. maybe this maybe that...
IMO if its not 50/50 its not equal.
BTW why do always refer to God as He, eventhough we clearly understand that God is above this He/She criteria.
Light Bearer, men and women r not equal...women can have kids men cant, is that equal? no..men r suppose to financially support women whereas women dont have to, is that equal? men have to go fight women dont have to, is that equal? no.
In Islam, Men & Women arent equals, they r never going to be equals, however in islam both men and women r treated fairly. U cant say that men have it better cuz we have to work, women do not, we have to go to war if needed, women dont. Both men and women have responsibilities that the other doesnt. So they arent equal, no ifs buts or maybes.
what do u want to say "it", cuz ur rite Allah is no he or she, but Allah himself tells us to call him "him" , surah ikhlaas, "say: he is Allah, one and only...."this says "he" but u get the point.
^ They should be able to but they neednt do all that, that is mans DUTY.
Men and women are not equal, physically, mentally, or whatever-ly, they are not equal.
Man = Man
Man = Woman
The code of the gays...
I remember reading this article about how a Japanese man was really frustrated becuase he couldnt get a job as a Kindergarden teacher, even though he loved kids so much. That kinda job is almost always taken up by women. Its because kids are women's speciality. We can all be equal or we can all be special in our own way, whaddaya want???
Women can be alima, can call for prayers, and can lead jamaat but specifically for other women.
As for head of state, im not sure, however, Iran's previous vice president was Masumeh Ebtekar (women). Iran being a shariat run country, would have had a problem with a woman vice president had there been any shari objection.
secondly, about inheritence, like someone said earlier, a womans inheritance is not required to be used for/on her family, that is solely her property. A man's inheritance is not, he is responsible for more than just himself, hence he requires a larger proportion to cover his shari responsibilities.
In inheritance matter we all say that maybe its because the males have to support the families afterwards and all. Well I say maybe it is not so, maybe it is designed to be in favor towards males. maybe this maybe that...
The reasons stated are pretty much correct. The laws were superimposed ontop of the original tribal laws, but were designed to avoid two primary problems:
i) Interfamilial fighting over inheritance
ii) Bringing in those who were originally shut-out, and that includes the women, children, etc.
Let's not presume we have no context on these matters.
Notions of gender political equality obviously didn't come into play. I mention this, because in the feminist rhetoric, the "worth" applied to a women's humanity is tied to the monetary compensation she receives...at least on this issue. That's an absurd line to take, of course. And I sense that's the subtext of the questioning going on here.
Things are mathematically not "equal", but then, since people are not recognized as individuals, but of members of some kind of familial unit, I would say within the family things are equalized.
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004:034 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because God has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what God would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For God is Most High, great (above you all).
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All you people who are pro equal stance please tell me that women have the same rights if the men are disloyal and illconduct (I have delibretely underlined Ye Fear in the verse, which I understand as that the actual disloyalty or ill conduct does not have to proven meaning if you suspect) as said above.
Allowed to admonish their husbands. Then
Refuse to share their beds. Then finally
Beat them.
I am giving reference from Holy Quran which supercedes Hadees. Be kind enough to give reference from Holy Quran.
My stance is men and women do not have equal right as per Holy Quran.
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002:228 Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what God Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in God and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And God is Exalted in Power, Wise.
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Again Holy Quran clearly states advantage of men over women.
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003:014 Fair in the eyes of men is the love of things they covet: Women and sons; Heaped-up hoards of gold and silver; horses branded (for blood and excellence); and (wealth of) cattle and well-tilled land. Such are the
possessions of this world's life ; but in nearness to God is the best of the goals (To return to).
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Found another ayat where the women is placed in Holy Quran right beside hoards of gold and silver, horses, cattle and well-tilled land.
Please note the last unerlined sentence "Such are the possessions of this world".
So my friends women is not equal she is a possession as written.
I am saying it again. Allah Tallah made men stronger than women, then don't you think men have different and harder responsibilities than women? Like it is Waajib for men to go to war, but it is not for a women.
I am saying it again. Allah Tallah made men stronger than women, then don't you think men have different and harder responsibilities than women? Like it is Waajib for men to go to war, but it is not for a women.
men and women are equal but with different qualities.they have different responsibilities, .men have more responsibilities than women that's why they are quwamun over women but that does'nt mean that they're not equal.