Re: The Original Shia
lol Ibn Sadique.. you are asking the question which I have already answered on your unreferenced copy / paste job on your thread Funeral of Prophet P.B.U.H. and Sahabah… but still let me just give you brief glimpses on some comments by the author on your own hadith of Sahih books which claims on Umar doubting the hadith of Prophet P.B.U.H.
Another brother mentioned that if the Prophet inteneded to appoint Ali as
the Imam, why did he not do so in the presence of the whole people and not
in his house few days before his demise?
The Prophet had already declared the appointment Imam Ali as Imam in many
occasions from his first open preach in Mecca (see al-Tabari English, v6,
pp 88-92; Ibn al-Athir, v2, p62; Ibn Asakir, v1, p85; al-Durr al-Manthoor,
by al-Suyuti, v5, p97) to his last open sermon in Ghadir Khum (see Sahih
Tirmidhi, v2, p298; Sunan Ibn Maja, v1, pp 12,43; Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal;
al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim; Khasa’is, by al-Nisa’i). Note that it was not
Prophet who appointed him on his own, but it was rather Allah who appointed
him.
What the messenger of Allah wanted to do in his last will was to write (or
order to write) what he has already said. But, as quoted earlier, some
people around him shamelessly reduced him to the level of insanity. What
happened on that thursday is a proof by itself that the Prophet ALREADY
assigned a successor, otherwise, there was no point of disobedience!
Another person mentioned the verse “Today I have perfected your religion
and completed my bounty upon you, and I was satisfied that Islam be your
religion (Quran 5:3)” which was revealed 2 months before the death of the
Prophet shows that there was no new religious command is going to come
thereafter. Otherwise, if that important statement the prophet was going to
dictate to his followers would have been somthing which was forgotten,
would make the verse untrue.
Perhaps the above brother would be surprized to know that many Sunni
commentators of Quran have confirmed that the above verse (5:3) was
revealed in Ghadir Khum AFTER the Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever I am
his leader, Ali is his leader. O’ God, love those who love him, and be
hostile to those who are hostile to him.” (See the ariticled titled “Ghadir
Khum” for extensive references). This means the perfection of the religion
was due announcing the successor of the Prophet (PBUH&HF).
In fact what prophet wanted to do on that Thursday (three days before his
death) was just to repeat, to remind, and to emphasize the things that has
been revealed before. He didn’t want to add any thing new.
No Muslim ever claimed that the position of prophethood has been taken from
Muhammad sometime before his death. We do not have such case about other
prophets either. Even let’s suppose he was not prophet any more, or he
wanted to say something new. Do you think you can find any man better or
more enthusiastic than him about the destiny of his community?! Do you
think his last wish was against the prosperity of his people?! How much
should they have been rude that even they didn’t let him talk!!!
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter4/4.html
Also in regards to the ayat you quoted… its true the ayat above is for believers…
The following ayah testifies his attitude towards his Companions (May Allah (swt) be pleased with them all) “To the believers is he most kind and merciful” 9:128
but you failed to quote the other ayat which I have mentioned earlier in the light of Quran that not all companions of Prophet P.B.U.H. were not believers .. but just to refresh your memory there you go
“They swear by Allah that they are truly of you while they are not of you, but they are a people (hypocrites) who intend to divide (the Muslim nation).”
hmm and lets see what you Sahih books have to say who are believers and who are hypocrites…
“Loving Ali is the sign of belief, and hating Ali is the sign of
hypocrasy.”
Sunni references:
- Sahih Muslim, v1, p48;
- Sahih Tirmidhi, v5, p643;
- Sunan Ibn Majah, v1, p142;
- Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal v1, pp 84,95,128
- Tarikh al-Kabir, by al-Bukhari (the author of Sahih), v1, part 1, p202
- Hilyatul Awliya’, by Abu Nu’aym, v4, p185
- Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v14, p462
Also Muslim in his Sahih narrated on the authority of Zirr that:
Ali (RA) said: By him who split up the seed and created something
living, the Apostle (may peace and blessing be upon him) gave me a
promise that no one but a believer would love me, and none but a
hypocrite would nurse grudge against me.
- Sahih Muslim, English version, Chapter XXXIV, p46, Tradition #141
This tradition of Prophet was popular to the extent that some of the
companions used to say:
“We recognized the hypocrites by their hatred of Ali.”
Sunni references:
- Fada’il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p639, Tradition #1086
- al-Istiab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, v3, p47
- al-Riyad al-Nadirah, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, v3, p242
- Dhakha’ir al-Uqba, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, p91