Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan’s Un-Independence!
why did we let leaders be imposed on us?
kher lets see what happens in the upcoming elections…waise bhi toh saare chor hi kharre huwe hain elections mein bhi :hinna:
we didn’t take it our founding fathers did…and after taking it they gave it to us as a gift to protect and cherish…and we failed in protecting and cherishing it…
it’s time we take it again…and its not a right its a privilege that is yours once you learn to not only take it but to keep it, cherish it and protect it
Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan's Un-Independence!
this thread wasnt meant to be a downer or a call to refrain from celebrating the 14th ... it was a call for us to rise up and save our country before its too late.
the point was to say that its high time we stop moaning and groaning and pointing fingers and get up off our behinds and do something to bring about the change that we want for this country
the point was our country is not free and it is in decline....we have to wake up and realize our country has all the potential to be much much much better than this...but it will never realize its potential until WE do something
I agree that just by saying we love our country and long live Pakistan, it holds no weight, if we are actually not contributing anything back to our country. complaining 24/7 is very easy to do, but actually going out of your way to do something for your homeland is something which is seriously lacking. However, having said, on the brighter side, its not like nobody is actually trying to make a difference, we have brilliant sincere Pakistanis who are actually bringing laurels to our country, their stories are inspirational, they should be our heroes, if they can do it, why not us? :)
Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan's Un-Independence!
I agree that just by saying we love our country and long live Pakistan, it holds no weight, if we are actually not contributing anything back to our country. complaining 24/7 is very easy to do, but actually going out of your way to do something for your homeland is something which is seriously lacking. However, having said, on the brighter side, its not like nobody is actually trying to make a difference, we have brilliant sincere Pakistanis who are actually bringing laurels to our country, their stories are inspirational, they should be our heroes,** if they can do it, why not us?** :)
that is exactly the point of this thread that we all need to do something for our country...only then can it progress
Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan's Un-Independence!
i cant celebrate its creation diwana bhai because i feel like it was brought into creation and then pushed back... i hope you can see where I am coming from.
In his speech of August 11, 1947 Quaid-e-Azam said:
Pakistan was created in the name of Islam for the betterment of the downtrodden Muslims of India. Despite economic hardships and shortage of resources, Pakistan survived without collapsing, and also showed signs of future promise--but in present day even a shadow of the promise it showed is not visible.
Pakistan ko banaane mein ek jazba tha ...and both the emotion and vision behind the creation of the country are quite apparent in quaid-e-azam's speech...magar aaj woh jazba kahin kho chuka hai... and it's like we are all sleeping while our country is being raped. We are in a persistent vegetative state...we see everything that is happening to the country that we were privileged to call our own and yet we sit by idly and cannot bring ourselves to rise up and fight for what our founding fathers worked so hard to give us. This is how we have treated the gift that was given us ...koi qadar nahin ki humne na humne isko protect kiya...it was a privilege to be a pakistani and unfortunately we dont deserve it kyunki hum isse sambhaal nahi paaye.
Im not denying that it was a great day in history when our country was formed, i'm just refusing to accept Pakistan as it is because this is not how it is supposed to be this is not what it was meant to be and this is not the real Pakistan... Pakistan is full of unrealized potential and WE are to blame for its current condition. When things are put right and Pakistan is headed in the right direction then I will feel that now Pakistan has truly been created...until then i cannot celebrate ....i will celebrate when i feel it has truly been created and is truly free.
Aap celebrate karein i wont stop anyone but my first independence day celebration will be when this country is headed in the right direction, it doesnt necessarily have to become the best before i celebrate it just headed in the right direction. In the meanwhile, I'll think of ways i can make a difference and implement those as soon as I can inshaAllah...
Many good answers have been given already.
I think to make a country better place and then keeping it at high standard is a continuous forward process,..... without losing hopes.
This wasn't intended as a "losing hope" , piece diwana bhai the purpose is to call attention. To the fact that our country needs us to do our small part for it
Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan's Un-Independence!
The day we stop thinking "Pakistan nay humay kia dia" and start thinking Pakistan ko hum nay kia diya aur kia daay saktay hain" things will be start turning around and Soon very soon we will celebrate jashn e Azadi.
When its comes to What we can do for Pakistan it doesnt have to be a hospitals,schools, or something always big it can be as small as spending 15 minutes everyday teaching someone or spending 15 minutes everyday cleaning the park close o your home or making sure there is no waste of water & power in your home.
Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan’s Un-Independence!
very well said that’s exactly it…dont sit idly by just watching ur country drown and then complain about it…get up and do something at the very least VOTE!
:k: at the very least!
par problem yeh bhi hai na hum logon ke vote bhi bikau hain… jab bhook hogi peyt mein toh vote toh bikega… for some reason we dont have a very strong moral fiber…that is strong enough to face hunger and go uncorrupted still
Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan's Un-Independence!
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par problem yeh bhi hai na hum logon ke vote bhi bikau hain... jab bhook hogi peyt mein toh vote toh bikega... for some reason we dont have a very strong moral fiber...that is strong enough to face hunger and go uncorrupted still
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Bhook baich bhaich kay hee tau Pakistan ka aaj yeh haal hai. Politicians/rulers provide basic things like food,education,security,law & order, health care to voters like they are doing big ahsaan on them. There is aparty who is selling roti kapra makan dream from last 40 years or so, another one tells you to look at motorway and remember the nuke tests before you ask for roti kapra or makan. Haar kisi ko apna manjan baichny ki fikar hai...because they know voter tau bhair bakri hai..chara dikha kar jab marzi zibah karr loo. Voter need to choose between aaj ki roti ya rooz rooz ki moot.
Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan's Un-Independence!
we want a corruption free Pakistan but before that we need to take that corruption out of ourselves...thats one of the biggest differences we can make is to develop a moral fiber so strong that we would rather die than to compromise our principles...phir vote bhi nahi bikkenge cuz god knows no one is going to fight poverty in this country...akhir kyun karenge? they dont want ppl to get educated and pull themselves out of poverty because a "nangi bhooki" public is in their best interest cuz thats the public they can buy off and rise to power ...it's a viscous cycle is what it is...but its one we can pull ourselves out of
Re: The Non-Celebration of Pakistan's Un-Independence!
Let us take a step back and start with people instead of leaders. A country is a reflection of its people and I believe that we, as a nation, have not done justice to this country. I fully agree with you that "we are the change." But are we ready for change? Drawing room discussions, grumblings in parties and brainstorming on telephones do not change anything on the ground. Where is the youth of the country which makes 63% of the country? Why they remain mum on courruption and mismanagement of their country? They love finger-pointing but what is the actual contribution of such a huge percentage of the population in solving the issues the country is facing? I do not want them to drive tanks and fly F-16s to threaten political and bureaucratic mafias, but at least they can form some sort of pressure groups to make their voice heard.
Did the Pakistani youth learn anything from the Tunisian youth? I don't think so! Will they learn it ever, I don't know!
Good point rather question. Youth are often the lightning rod for change. Young blood boils faster then older blood. Of course, youth alone can not bring about change, but they often wake-up the sleeping population. (e.g. Arab Spring Revolution)
I see lot of guppies with sensible moderate views and others with strong conservative views. I presume most are from what can be called economically middle class. What about the political views of youth from lower economic strata of the society? In my near 30 years of observing world events, I have noticed youth from middle-class generally tend to be influenced by the political views of their parents. Youth from lower strata of the society often go against their parents political views, they are also angry the parents let it be like that. What is the case in Pakistan? What are youth in general lean towards Religious conservative, Foreign policy conservative, fiscal conservative, social liberals? what are they?
