Re: abortion must be a deciding factor for voting???
I started a the topic and my intent was to discuss the relevance of religious groups on politics. at may seem apologetic to those who are carrying some chip on the shoulder.
perhaps it should be clearer from the outset that it was a general discussion rather than the specific influence of ( christian) groups in (american) politics wrt Abortion. you only mentioned the religious influenced in other palces when I was particularly negative about the christian groups in America. Which gives the perception that its reacting to my post rather than the focus of the discussion all along.
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its rather amusing that while you get into it in post#8 now you are wondering whether we are on topic.
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Im not sure which one is #8 in the new thread. however the context in the discussion for me has largely been america-centric, even to the point of misunderstanding what you were talking about.
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there is no apology its is giving other examples to say that undue inlfuence of religion on state in other areas has been negative as well.
if you see that as "others are bad too there thre" then you are not reading it right
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would you understand that as the motivation of seminole too, in talking about war mongering prophets in other religions.
I understand you giving examples, I dont find them terribly relevant to American politics, but OK.
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however you slice it, impact of religous groups or policies religion-ised to appease certain segment, it has a negative impact.
thats it.
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thats not saying much. one can appease certain segments, religious or not, and have negative impacts.
Pakistan's support for taleban, and the Kashmiri "freedom fighters" had entirely Pakistani-ideological reasons. You're going to sell political decisions to the people, if they happen to be religious you're likely to cast it in that language. im sure if Pakistani people had a different composition, the same decisions would have been cast in a very different, possibly secular light.
MMA had very little role to play in any of Pakistan's sometimes religiously tinted foreign policy. It has usually been regional pragmatics, so you cant really say that religion has been the agent of change there.