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I am not talking about this. I am talking about flushing the constitution of Pakistan under which he took oath of Badshah Salamat, down the toilet. What is his moral justification to rule further? Explain.
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**hahaha .... Bahshahat hamseaha Rub ki rehne wali hai .....
Sher-e-Pakistan 3 dfa phle bhi PM bn chuka hai ..... 62 saal ka Tharki ni hai jo taras rha ab tk PMship ke lye :D**
nero playing the fiddle, while Rome was burning. Sir jee uth jao, subah ho gayee. Game changer China mein nahin, Model town mein hoany wala hai.
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@ Sachaydino Read his today's NA Speech
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nero playing the fiddle, while Rome was burning. Sir jee uth jao, subah ho gayee. Game changer China mein nahin, Model town mein hoany wala hai.
**Ehsan bhai , I fully support Model Town Investigation and all the culprits have to face the music .
But IK and TuQ are destroying Pak Economy and State Institutions , if NS is bad they are worse !**
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But IK and TuQ are destroying Pak Economy and State Institutions , if NS is bad they are worse !
Because your Badshah Salamat is an idiot. He has no clue how to deal with the very simple situation created earlier. Your BadShah Salamat aor us ka wazir sirf goli chalana jaantay hain, how to kill dissent rather than using their brains.
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If you read this article
*When means do matter
Dr Tahirul Qadri undoubtedly moved me on December 23, especially with the sea of green and white flags and the passionate resonance of the national anthem. We may be far from where we want to be, or should be, as a nation, but the passion and dream lives on in so many of us. Dr Qadri’s message touched a chord and the instinct was to join up in his caravan for change. After all, this was what had attracted me to the PTI until the “electables” invasion, traditional manoeuvring and takeover. Imran’s commitment to change was not the issue, but the means – of the same “electables” somehow becoming harbingers of this change – did somehow undermine the belief, notwithstanding the passion of the youth!
So when Dr Qadri in his convincing manner offered yet another path to truly change the democratic political equation in Pakistan, it was difficult not to join in. But something held me back, and I can now identify three different levels of reasoning that made me decide to stay away. The first level was related to the assumptions underlying the march, regardless of the numbers! The idea of having a “people’s assembly” which would make decisions for the nation without itself having been selected by the people smacked of an arrogance that was discomfiting! After all, how could this “people’s assembly” represent the whole gamut of the Pakistani nation without having actually been given this mandate? Similarly, respected scholar though he is, Dr Qadri also has not been given a mandate to head such an assembly and make decisions on behalf of the people of Pakistan!
At a second and perhaps most crucial level, I feel that, given the chaos and violence Pakistan is already experiencing, the means of bringing change matter. There is absolutely no doubt that the demands for electoral reforms through proper enforcement of the constitution are the need of the hour for Pakistan to rid itself of the corrupt politicians’ coterie ruling us. But the questions that came to mind are: One, why not use the Supreme Court and challenges through the ECP to ensure enforcement of constitutional provisions with regard to electoral candidates? Here Imran Khan’s example stands out in connection with bogus voters’ lists, as well as his pending appeals against pre-poll rigging.
There is a system that works, if used properly. This usage also allows for strengthening of institutions like the judiciary and the ECP – thereby fortifying the roots of democracy. I feel Imran’s use of petitions to fight electoral corruption not only shows faith in the judiciary, thereby fortifying the institution, but has also borne positive results in the battle for electoral reform – although the war has yet to be won.
Two, how can one man and his followers decide who is clean or pious? At the end of the day, if we believe in democracy then we must fight the battle against corruption and lawbreakers at the ballot box. Yes, rigging is a plague, as are the traditional political norms, especially in the rural areas; but if enough voices stand up against these evils, I believe things will change. We have never given the democratic system, flawed as it may be, a chance to take root. Too many dictatorial interventions in the name of “reform” have already cost this country a smooth evolutionary developmental process. In fact, this is a major reason why the corrupt, inept traditional “electables” succeed time after time in elections – because they are allowed to embrace political martyrdom instead of being exposed for the criminals that they are.
Distasteful as it may be, we have to allow the system to continue and hope people will choose new faces, who will in turn bring reform to the electoral system through parliamentary legislation. We need a system of proportional representation; of unhinging the roots of support for corruption in politics such the misnomer “development funds,” and so on. But these changes need to come through letting the electoral system continue, which may make the task more daunting but it is the only legitimate way. Too many non-democratic interventions have already destroyed the fabric of this nation.
Three, I feel very strongly about the whole issue of dual nationality and had written a letter to the CJ on the issue also. No matter how committed to Pakistan, dual nationality implies dual loyalties, especially in the case of the US naturalisation oath. If one wants to lead a political movement in Pakistan then commitment to this cause requires a renunciation of the foreign nationality. Not everyone agrees on this, but it is a conviction with me.
At a third level, my misgivings are based on what I tend to call “connecting the dots.” The timing of Dr Qadri’s return; information flowing out from British sources that the UK High Commissioner to Pakistan visited Dr Qadri in Canada two or three times about six months ago; the growing belligerency of drones and Indian troops along the LoC, alongside an unprecedented increase in terrorism, especially in Quetta; the sheer money and organisational structure that suddenly became overt – just too many coincidences in terms of timeline. Some said the “establishment” was behind Dr Qadri, but I am not convinced on that count! However, external powers I suspect have a role, although I have no proof – simply an educated assessment of what is happening within Pakistan and in our region.
We know the US seeks a favourable dispensation in Islamabad up to 2014 so that its withdrawal from Afghanistan can be smooth and the post-withdrawal scenario to its liking. A long-term friendly caretaker setup would suit them more than an elected government, especially since they are not sure what will happen in the next elections when there is no NRO and no “guarantors”! We also know how the UK played a lead role in the whole NRO game, so the same linkage can be taken as a given again. Banking on someone they recognise as a “liberal religious leader,” who has even sought to justify drones before December 23, they feel will allow them to bring the Pakistani nation on board. These are dangerous and false assumptions but it will not be the first time such miscalculations have been made.
Too many questions to set the mind at ease over the agenda of Dr Qadri – a man to be respected for his scholarship. But if he is really concerned about the people of Pakistan then a march that would win support from all over the country would be a peace march to Quetta. Now, that would be a march I would join without hesitation. Till then elections and legal challenges to enforce constitutional provisions are the route to achieve change. The means do matter.
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When means do matter - Shireen M Mazari
Just read this with title of this thread , you can understand present situation .
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Actually Bhai Sahib the route you propose already exists or close to it, but takes approx 24 hrs of travel time to Gawadar taking the road on the west bank of Indus, see for yourself.
**This route is actually the preferred route that supplies the NATO troops in Afghanistan!
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simply Google Maps for it by getting directions from Peshawar to Karachi!
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This all effort of Tu... Kazab is based on West agenda to not to allow Pakistan to go further close to China
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President of China has to arrive , CIA don't want Pakistan close with China . CIA has been playing a very important role in Pakistan since first visit of than brigadier Ayoub Khan to US . This issue has been discussed in N.A. today
Any comments !
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End of tamasha.. Finally a good news for the country:
omar r quraishi @omar_quraishi 3m
The Chinese president's visit is scheduled for the beginning of the 3rd week of September
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^ what has this got to do with the discussion at hand ?
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This all was the reason behind , All the Tv channels left their business of advertising and were covering these marches 24 hours a day . You can easily know the reasons .
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^ still nothing to do with the topic. Us always keeps an eye on Pakistan. Do you think that nro and Nawaz sharifs current government was possible without us nod? All our rulers are their pawns. Most journalists are against these marches and besides they are only serving to damage Pti.
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^ still nothing to do with the topic. Us always keeps an eye on Pakistan. Do you think that nro and Nawaz sharifs current government was possible without us nod? All our rulers are their pawns. Most journalists are against these marches and besides they are only serving to damage Pti.
I don't think so . There is a big chain of agents of CIA and people feel pride to be associated with US any way .
Here many politicians and others who are proud of being puppets of establishment and in ...............................................................
I don't think , this all will stop .
Soon , some one will start some other move in another way
This happened with Shaheed Benazir Bhutto in 89-90 ( 2 big attempts )
Same happened with N$ in 1996 ( 2 big attempts )
I have no doubts about army chief but I have doubts about the system .
Clouds are still there .
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China plans rail links with Pakistan, Central Asia to revive Silk Route
BEIJING: China is negotiating with Pakistan, Mongolia, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan to build three connective railroads to revive the ancient Silk Route and improve regional trade on the economic belt, a pet project of President Xi Jinping.
Huang Shengqiang, head of the China Port Management Office, said Beijing has already opened 25 international airports and land ports as well as 12 special trade areas along the economic belt within the country.
It will continue to build regional freight stations and create more trading platforms with Pakistan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia and Nepal, Huang was quoted by the state-run China Daily as saying.
China is planning to build a maze of silk roads, including the Maritime Silk Road ..
Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/41609711.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
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Nation lays down plan for cross-border rail lines
([China Daily](http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2011-08/25/index1.html)) 08:31, September 03, 2014
China is negotiating with the governments of Mongolia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Pakistan to build three connective railroads to improve regional trade on the Silk Road economic belt.
Huang Shengqiang, head of the China Port Management Office, said China has already opened 25 international airports and land ports as well as 12 special trade areas along the economic belt within the country.
It will continue to build regional freight stations and create more trading platforms with Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, Mongolia and Nepal, Huang said.
Because of the greater number of cross-border rail lines that have cut down on transport times and freight costs, more Chinese cities have discovered that these links to Central Asia and Europe can help improve regional connectivity and trade on the Silk Road economic belt.
"China will seek diversified trade methods by establishing new international procurement centers, centralized shipment control centers and transfer and import distribution centers. It will also develop a cross-border economic cooperation zone in the XinjiangUygur autonomous region to further promote border trade with neighboring markets," Huang said.
Since 2010, major Chinese cities, including Chengdu, Chongqing, Xi'an, Zhengzhou, Wuhan and Yiwu have began weekly or monthly train services to European and Central Asian destinations, part of China's efforts to turn its inland resources and labor-rich cities into international trade hubs.
Eighty-six cargo trains carrying 7,450 containers passed through the Alataw Pass railway station on the China-Kazakhstan border between January and July of this year, with trade volume reaching $1 billion, according to customs.
Transport Minister Yang Chuantang said regional connectivity is in the interests of all countries on the Silk Road Economic Belt. Yang added that China is following the Asian Highway Network deal signed in 2004 and the Trans-Asian Railway agreement penned in 2006 to continue its railway investment and develop major entry-exit rail and road projects.
"Countries in Central Asia and Eastern Europe, including Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Poland and Belarus, are eager to build new platforms for broader trade and for cultural and technological cooperation with China and other countries along the belt," said Wang Ming at the National Development and Reform Commission.
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Chinese bank to invest in Pakistan’s energy sector
- China’s Exim Bank has pledged to invest** billions of dollars in Pakistan’s energy sector,** in line with the Chinese government’s policy to have maximum economic interaction between the two brotherly countries.
In this connection, a framework of credit financing will be signed during the forthcoming visit of** Chinese President Xi Jinping to Pakistan,** said Lei Wentao, deputy general manager of Exim Bank at a press briefing held here on Wednesday. The bank has already provided $800 million to Pakistan as financial support for carrying out its development projects, mainly in energy and transport sectors.
Lei said a number of agreements and memorandum of understanding (MoU) will be signed during the president’s visit to Pakistan to help improve its economy. To a question, he said that the financial arrangements with Pakistan have been smooth and positive in the past. “Pakistan has a very good credit record,” he said.
He further said that the Chinese leadership attached great importance to Pakistan and wished active participation of its socioeconomic development, adding that the bank is willing to provide maximum support to Pakistan for overcoming its electricity shortage. “We are waiting for the feasibility reports of some projects from Pakistan, so that the financial arrangements could be finalised,” he said.
He said that China is also looking forward to invest heavily in construction of Pak-China economic corridor. To another question, Lei said that 90 per cent credit of the bank is going to the energy sector, hoping Pakistan will soon overcome this problem. He also appreciated the current economic growth in Pakistan and said it is very attractive for the Chinese companies. “More and more Chinese companies are now willing to invest in Pakistan,” he said.
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Great News
Pakistan won against …
Chinese president’s visit on schedule: FO[TABLE=“class: media media–left one-third palm–one-whole, width: 134”]
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FO Spokesperson Tasneem Aslam said the visit by President Xi Jinping was not being cancelled or rescheduled.
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Welcome from core of our hearts
Chinese president’s visit on schedule: FO
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I hope every one who loves Pakistan will be happy