The forthcoming PAK vs AUS series...

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Well.. throughout the Final they were showing ads for West Indies touring India series on Dishnetwork.

Sometimes TV Asia can suprise you. (So keep a look out for them too).
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Lets just hope your words come true!

I just checked guys and I'm dissappointed to say that Zee, TV Asia, Sony and PPV aren't showing Pakistan vs Australia series.
Its amazing how Dish Network is showing the boring Windies vs India series while you have the 2 most excting teams playing. (Pak, Aus)
Some people just seem to amaze me.

Any guppie in Pakistan able to broadcast matches?

I doubt Dishnetwork or any other channel will be showing the matches if they do that would be a big surprise for me. The reason dish is showing Windies tour of india cuz half of india reside in USA :hehe: so they are able to make money out of that. But if they show PAK series no one will subscribe it and most of the Pakistanis will be watching it free
:hehe: :wink:

http://www.wisden.com/misc/free/page.asp?colid=44118741

To many, the key clash in the Pakistan-Australia series is between the leggies: in the lime-green corner, Danish Kaneria; in the baggy-green corner, Shane Warne. Separating them are 12 years, 422 Test wickets and 93 Test caps - not to mention a few pounds, even allowing for Warne’s new slender frame.
With 38 wickets in his first eight Tests - Warne managed only 14 - Kaneria looks a serious threat to Australia. But, as the tagline for the film American Beauty implores, ‘look closer’. This is the biggest mismatch since Basil Fawlty made an honest woman of Sybil.

Kaneria’s healthy record (an average of 21.39; a strike rate of a wicket every 46 balls) owes everything to some zealous Bangla-bashing. In three Tests against Bangladesh, he has helped himself to 25 wickets at 11.12 each, and one every 23 balls. In five Tests against the rest - England, New Zealand and West Indies - his record is decidedly modest: 13 wickets at 41.15; each wicket taking 91 balls.

His record against the bigger boys does include a five-for against New Zealand, at Lahore in May, but even that came in the fairest of weather: Kaneria’s 5 for 110 came after the Kiwis had followed on the small matter of 570 runs behind.

One thing is for sure: with Matthew Hayden and Co. having about as much regard for spin bowling as they do for warm beer, we’ll soon find out what Kaneria is made of.

http://www.wisden.com/misc/free/page.asp?colid=44118741

Media is trying to potray it as KANERIA vs WARNE but my personal view is that SAQAIN will be key.Though I would like to see Kaneria excel and kick some Aussies asses.
Australians are found struggling against quality spinners in recent pasts.Their record against vettori or Haabhajan is perfetc example.I think Ricky ponting .Langer and Gilchirst can easily be tricked by quality off spinners and Saqlian will have good chances against them.For aussies man to watch out for will be Mathew Hayden and Steve Waugh.
I hope Saqi is not burned out due to excessive County cricket otherwise
We have excellent fight on cards :slight_smile: But Australian will be trapped under spin trap only if pakistani bowlers give them good start.If Saqi come with 50/1 or 50/2 then he can be more effective .But if he comes at 80/0 kinda score then poor guy cant do much. So its important then Waqar and Shoib give them good start.

FYI..
This is what Ponting and Gilchrist did In India



+AC Gilchrist         st Mongia          b Harbhajan Singh    122 162 112  
+AC Gilchrist         lbw                b Harbhajan Singh      0   2  1
+AC Gilchrist         lbw                b Tendulkar            0   2   1  
+AC Gilchrist         lbw                b Harbhajan Singh      1   8   6  
+AC Gilchrist         lbw                b Harbhajan Singh      1  11  11 


RT Ponting            c Das              b Harbhajan Singh      0   5   5 
RT Ponting            lbw                b Harbhajan Singh      6  22 12
RT Ponting            c Das              b Harbhajan Singh      0   3   4 
RT Ponting            st Dighe           b Harbhajan Singh      0   2   1  
RT Ponting            c Dravid           b Harbhajan Singh     11  29  25  


Kaneria indeed is a great bowler!

But don't forget Pindi Xpress, he has broken the 100 mph speed record not in Australia, South Africa, or England but in Sharjah, a dead dull subcontinent pitch.

He hasn't bowl at his best since the Australian series, eventhough he didn't take many wickets for the couple matches but he is looking awesome form because he was bowling in his mid 90s on a dull spinning pitch of Srilanka.

My suggestion to pakistani's is that they should include one batsman and a bowler (newcomer) ...... basically australians and south africans are perfect robots , they must be ready with the database of the paki players ..... Then give them surprize.

You must have seen how they have reacted to harbhajan (india test serise ), Arvind Desilva (chamipons trophy) ... actually at that time they were missing the data of these players .... hence they dont know how to play ........

so disturb there database and take success for granted ........

Liked that Idea. :hehe:
Its true that they struggle against something surprising. may be we can see some start bowler emerging from pakistan in thsi series.

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Kaneria indeed is a great bowler!

But don't forget Pindi Xpress, he has broken the 100 mph speed record not in Australia, South Africa, or England but in Sharjah, a dead dull subcontinent pitch.

He hasn't bowl at his best since the Australian series, eventhough he didn't take many wickets for the couple matches but he is looking awesome form because he was bowling in his mid 90s on a dull spinning pitch of Srilanka.
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I wont used word "GREAT" for Kaneria.Its too strong a word to use for a new comer. But definitly he has talent and I hope he does good and becomes GREAT.

kaneria is another bowler who has talent but has no cricketing sense....
just liked arshad khan who did not even know how to set his field....
i think kaneria will disappear soon if he plays aussies and then south africa later in the year and fails to get wickets....

i dont have much hopes with him....

but if he does succeed, pak definitely need him, assuming saqi's days r numbered....
we need someone to hold the spin after saqi leaves....

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My suggestion to pakistani's is that they should include one batsman and a bowler (newcomer) ...... basically australians and south africans are perfect robots , they must be ready with the database of the paki players ..... Then give them surprize.

You must have seen how they have reacted to harbhajan (india test serise ), Arvind Desilva (chamipons trophy) ... actually at that time they were missing the data of these players .... hence they dont know how to play ........

so disturb there database and take success for granted ........
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I don't know if you know this but Pakistan is playing 5 new players in the team who have played 5 or less tests but non against Aussies.
I don't think a player being new can affect the way the Aussies will play, their job is to score runs against the Pakistani bowlers who are quite well known to the Aussie batsman with the exception of Kaneria.
Their main plan against the Pakistani batsman is just bowl tight deliveries outside the off stump and they are guarenteed to take away, that is always the deal with young Pakistani batsman, they will hit anything that comes towards and they end up getting out.
New or not, our team is missing our 3 best batsmans, Anwar, Youhana, Afridi :D (joking), Anwar, Inzi, Youhana.

** 15 more hours to go !!**

my young and inexperienced side for tomorrows match is

Imran Nazir
Taufeeq Umar
Imran Farhat
Hasan Raza
Younis Khan
Abdur Razzaq
Rashid Latif
Saqlain Mushtaq
Danish Kaneria
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akhtar

we need all the luck in the world to prevent a horrific innings defeat. any guess!!!!!

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my young and inexperienced side for tomorrows match is

we need all the luck in the world to prevent a horrific innings defeat. any guess!!!!!
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dont worry masterP_ghettoD.... ur team has to many surprizes for aussis ....

Pakistan hoping for unexpected against formidable Aussies
Charlie Austin - 2 October 2002

Pakistan captain Waqar Younis, without the services of his leading players, hopes his youthful side can rise to the challenge of facing the number one side in the world on Thursday when Pakistan and Australia meet in the opening game of a three-Test series at Colombo.

Australia, reunited with the Waugh twins who have warmed up for the tour by playing county cricket in England, are firm favourites as they start a new Test season but Waqar, who admits that his side are “immature and inexperienced,” is hoping that Pakistan can live up to their reputation for the unpredictable with a surprise victory.

“The young boys which we have here are talented and probably the best available. Naturally, any captain would feel uncomfortable going into a Test series without experienced players, but I have complete confidence in the abilities of these youngsters,” said Waqar.

“I agree that Australia are a formidable team but this Pakistan team is also well-focused and training hard for the upcoming games,” he added. “I know that the people have completely ruled us out but I have been member of Pakistan teams that have won games against all odds or when the chips were down.”

New coach Richard Pybus, 38, a former minor counties player for Suffolk who comes back for his fourth stint in charge after the sacking of Mudassar Nazar, argued that the competition for places within the Pakistan side could be beneficial.

“The Aussies are a good side but they are only 11 human beings,” said Pybus. “This is a new chapter in Pakistan cricket. Some of the senior players are coming to the end of their careers and the subsequent competition for places can only be healthy – there is no comfort zone.”

Nevertheless, Waqar admitted on Tuesday night to not knowing the final XI that would play, revealing that he knew very little about some of the new players in the squad.

“One or two of the players are new to me, although I do know the capabilities of most of the guys from domestic cricket back home,” he said. “I don’t know what side we will play at the moment – all I know is that I will be playing! We will have to have a good look at the wicket first.”

Pakistan’s biggest problem is their batting, where they are without Inzamam-ul-Haq (heel injury), Yousuf Youhana (shoulder injury) and Saeed Anwar (unavailable). Their top six in their warm-up game against West Indies last week – Imran Nazir, Taufeeq Umar, Imran Farhat, Younis Khan, Misbah-ul-Haq and Faisal Iqbal – contained a total of just 45 caps between them.

However, the bowling remains potent, even without Wasim Akram who chose to sit out the series. Assuming that Pakistan decide to play two spinners, Saqlain Mushtaq and Danish Kaneria, then Waqar will have to pick two from Shoaib Akhtar, Abdul Razzaq and Mohammad Sami. Razzaq may have to bat in the top six to bolster the batting.

Steve Waugh, 37, back at the helm after Ricky Ponting led the one-day team, was also wary of Pakistan’s untested youngsters: **“Generally, with the other countries, you know what you’re going to get, but with Pakistan, I think half the time they don’t even know themselves what they’ve got among their team-mates. This is a big challenge, Pakistan are always a good side.” ** :slight_smile:

Australia have the option of playing two spinners with off-spinner Nathan Hauritz in the squad, but look set to back their fearsome pace bowling attack, playing Glen McGrath, Jason Gillespie and Brett Lee.

The batting picks itself with Justin Langer, another player excluded from the one-day team, opening the innings with the inform Matthew Hayden and the Waugh twins slipping into the middle order.

Steve Waugh played down the fact that the three newcomers come into the side without having sufficient time to adapt to the conditions in Colombo, particularly the P. Saravanamuttu pitch which is expected to assist the fast bowlers on the first morning before becoming a typical slow Sri Lankan turner.

“There is no great preparation for a Test series anymore,” said Waugh. “Even when you are touring a country you may only play one 3-day game. You just have to get used to that. It is more of a mindset thing than adjusting your technique. In Tests you need more patience and it’s all about mental preparation.”

Australia (from): Steve Waugh (capt), Adam Gilchrist (wk), Matthew Hayden, Ricky Ponting, Justin Langer, Mark Waugh, Darren Lehmann, Damien Martyn, Shane Warne, Nathan Hauritz, Andy Bichel, Brett Lee, Jason Gillespie, Glenn McGrath.

Pakistan (from): Waqar Younis (capt), Imran Nazir, Taufeeq Umar, Faisal Iqbal, Younis Khan, Misbah-ul-Haq, Saqlain Mushtaq, Abdul Razzaq, Rashid Latif (wk), Shoaib Akhtar, Mohammad Sami, Danish Kaneria, Naved-ul-Hasan, Imran Farhat, Mohammad Zahid, Hasan Raza.

http://www-usa.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2002/OCT/070757_CI_02OCT2002.html

My pick - Nazir, Taufiq, Younis khan, Misbah, Hasan Raza, Razzaq, Latif, Saqi, Shoaib, Waqar, Kaneria

well someone up ther forgot Misbah-ul-Haq in hs line up.. too bad, he is gonn form the backbone alongwith Younis Khan,

I think the following will play,
Imran Nazir
Taufeeq/Imarn farhat
Younis Khan
Misbah
Faisal Iqbal
Razaak
Latif
Waqar
Saqlain
Shoaib
Kaneria

looks like a quite capable bowling attack to me :k:
Best of luck paki’s :slight_smile:

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"I know that the people have completely ruled us out but I have been member of Pakistan teams that have won games against all odds or when the chips were down."

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I liked the attitude.

I would go with 3 pacers and 2 spinners as the article above mentioned.
Waqar and Shoaib are automatic choices, I would go for Razzaq over Sami, Sami is alot better bowler than Razzaq but this is a definite Murali friendly pitch so fast bowlers won't be that effective.
With the fire power of Shoaib and Waqar and 2 bowlers supported by the pitch Saqi and Kaneria, the lineup looks good with backup of Razzaq, who is usually good breaking partnerships.

My lineup

Imran Nazir ( Please don't screw up this time)
Taufeeq Umar
Mizbah ul Haq
Hasan Raza
Younis Khan
Abdul Razzaq
Rashid Latif
Saqlain
Waqar
Shoaib
Kaneira

Imran Farhat can come in for Nazir if he screws up and Faisal Iqbal for Hasan Raza.

Sami is a good bowler but his ability to bowl on subcontinent pitches isn't good. He is one of those bowlers who can bowl good when pitches are fast and the conditions suiting fast bowlers.
But in event of Shoaib breaking down, he is the ideal choice over Muhammad Zahid, who btw shouldn't even be able to be in the 15 man squad.

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