The Creation of the Universe in the Qur'an

W.A.S!

Bhai Mere, your way of arguing/discussing is appreciated since it has your emotions and sincerity. But one cannot make a religious book look acceptable by arguments.

“Look look my book says this. It must be the greatest book and you should agree since it has such a great information. No no you must. I insist.”

For anyone who wants to have people ponder upon these things, is just by presenting the idea and leave them alone.

Have you heard Wama Alena Illal Balaagh? I am sure.

We are not responsible of hidayat. It comes from the heart.

Islam was not spread by scientific revolutions and debates.

The discussion of science and religion and trying to make religion look authentic by scientific sources have never been proven in my humble opinion.

Omar (RAA) did not read a scientific evidence to become muslim.

Please search on hadiths which talk about controlling the heart. (Qalb)

Work on hearts. Not on minds of people.

Good luck and peace. :slight_smile:

Bhai Mere, your way of arguing/discussing is appreciated since it has your emotions and sincerity. But one cannot make a religious book look acceptable by arguments.

It is merely a discussion and dialogue, How will we erradicate differences and make people see the truth and sense if there is no dialogue?

"Look look my book says this. It must be the greatest book and you should agree since it has such a great information. No no you must. I insist."

The fact is it is the greatest book! If you have found the truth out about something really important then don't you want people to know?The fact is Allah taught us 1423 years ago about the beautiful and perfect order of his creations and all i'm doing is highlighting that so that we may all learn that oh this is what the Qur'an contains and maybe this may give one an incentive to look further into the Qur'an for themselves!

For anyone who wants to have people ponder upon these things, is just by presenting the idea and leave them alone.

What do you think i'm doing? I presented the article originally and have simply responded to queries and questions that were put to me, i'm not just going to ignore them am i? So i don't understand what your getting at!

Have you heard Wama Alena Illal Balaagh? I am sure.

Never heard of him in my life!

We are not responsible of hidayat. It comes from the heart.

Obviously!When have i said or done otherwise? Your statements clearly do not apply to me!

Islam was not spread by scientific revolutions and debates.

Again when have i said otherwise? I just think your rambling on just for the sake of it!

The discussion of science and religion and trying to make religion look authentic by scientific sources have never been proven in my humble opinion.

I'm not trying to do anything, the authenticity and greatness of the Qur'an speaks for it self!Maybe if you tried to look into the deeper meanings of the Qur'an especially the ones where Allah is explaining the beautiful and perfect order of his creations then you might learn something because most of us Muslims are uneducated about our deen! I'm merely letting people know what Allah says in regards to his beautoful order and creation of things! Anything wrong with that?

Omar (RAA) did not read a scientific evidence to become muslim.

Your giving me one example out of millions of people who have converted to Islam over the centuries! There is not one way better than the other but Allah has told us in the Qur'an for us to practice beautiful preaching and he tells us:

"Verily in the heavens and the earth are signs for those who believe. And in the creation of yourselves, and the fact that animals are scattered (through the earth), are signs for those of assured faith. And in the alternation of night and day, and that fact that Allah sends down sustenance from the sky, and revives therewith the earth after its death, and in the change of the winds, are signs for those who are wise" (45:3-5).

Allah can open up a persons dil in many ways not just one way! There are MANY scientists and people who have converted to Islam after finding out what Allah says about the beautiful and perfect order of his creations!But we should practice dawah in everyway as long as it is beautiful and full of wisdom!

Please search on hadiths which talk about controlling the heart. (Qalb)

Please look into dawah and what Islam says about it and how we should undertake it!

Work on hearts. Not on minds of people.

I don't think you know how to give dawah! Please read up about it and do your part! Allah asked us to practice beautiful dawah in the Qur'an and the mind is connected to the heart! There are many different ways of giving dawah and of course we should work on hearts but minds aswell because most people who find Islam get attracted to it because it makes sense meaning it's logical!This then has an effect on the heart!So they are clearly both connected! Most people who convert first look into the Qur'an and find its authenticity and contents to be so accurate and beautiful and this makes them want to convert! Allah can open up a person's heart however he wants! It is possible for us to say one thing about Islam to a kaafir and Allah may open up their heart to the kaalimah!
This is just one way or one approach of giving dawah! I have also done it in a beautiful way and people can choose to come into this forum or not there is no compulsion is there? May Allah lead us all to the truth! Allahumma ameen!

Good luck and peace.

Allah hafiz

Re: The Creation of the Universe in the Qur'an

^Wama Alena Illal Balagh is not a person or book etc. Its an arabic sentence. Commonly ,this is said by many aalims and teachers at the end of the speech.

It means in Arabic: Our job is just to bring the message to you. Something like that.

I will use the same 'medicine'.

A.H.

(P.S. I may find this written in arabic and will post. Just an idea, one can make a gif of it.)