Its an amazing documentary, you tube has removed it on several occasions
It really does make u chane the way u think, but sum things i really amnt 2 sure, seems way 2 far fecthed
Yep its true. Prophet Isa(as) did testify
" She made a sign to them, pointing to the child. But they replied : 'How can we speak with a baby in the cradle?' Whereupon he spoke and said : I am the Servant of God" (19:29-30, Koran)
I think, 'How can we speak with a baby in the cradle?' is a sarcastic remark on part of Jews to Jesus (as) and doesn't testify of him being actually a baby in the cradle. And making such sarcastic remarks are very common for people who are full of self esteem, pride and ego. Otherwise, in the following versus, the message he (Jesus (as)) is giving to them (Jews) doesn't make any sense. For example, the following versus say:
[19:31] He said, ‘I am a servant of Allah. He has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet;
[19:32] ‘And He has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and almsgiving so long as I live;
[19:33] ‘And *He has made me *dutiful toward my mother, and He has not made me haughty *and *unblessed.
It doesn't make any sense for a child who is in Cradle, who is totally relied upon his mother to feed him, take care of him in her lap, clean him etc, to make such a claim. Specially in verses 19:32-33, how can he be offering Prayers and almsgiving, be dutiful towards his mother at the age of 2 months or so, when at such young age, a person cannot take care of him/herself let alone to take care of his mother.
It is obvious that Jesus was in his young youth age which can be 30 years or so when this event took place.
Re: The Arrivals...any1 seen it?
are you guys all shia? from what i've heard it was a shia documentary.
my sister has been on me to see it for a long time, but it got taken off youtube.
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It doesn't make any sense for a child who is in Cradle, who is totally relied upon his mother to feed him, take care of him in her lap, clean him etc, to make such a claim.
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And a child born without a father makes sense to you? its laughable really! Please do read the preceding verses before jumping to any conclusion. Here are the verses( I omitted the verses where a few details are presented before the birth). 19:22-30 " Thereupon she conceived him and retired to a far off place........Carrying the child, she came to her people, who said to her : Mary, this is indeed a strange thing! Sister of Aaron, your father was never a whore-monger, nor was your mother a harlot. She made a sign to them, pointing to the child. But they replied : How could we speak to a baby in the cradle? Whereupon he spoke ' I am the Servant of God'.
Does it make sense now? Note the words " she came to her people " and how the people reacted. They were all astonished seeing mary(as) carrying a baby which justifies their slandering.
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Specially in verses 19:32-33, how can he be offering Prayers and almsgiving, be dutiful towards his mother at the age of 2 months or so, when at such young age, a person cannot take care of him/herself let alone to take care of his mother."
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All he's saying is that God has made prayer and alms giving incumbent on me(jesus).
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It is obvious that Jesus was in his young youth age which can be 30 years or so when this event took place.
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I fail to see that.
sNOVA: If I give you a sarcastic remark like " tum to doodh peetay buchay ho, tum nahee sumjho gay ... " does it literally makes you an infant?
are you guys all shia? from what i've heard it was a shia documentary.
my sister has been on me to see it for a long time, but it got taken off youtube.
Its title is about the coming of Imam Mehdi & probably its producers are shia but like a lot of posters mentioned some of it is pretty insightful other plain bs...
I think you can easily find a torrent for it if you want to watch
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I think, 'How can we speak with a baby in the cradle?' is a sarcastic remark on part of Jews to Jesus (as) and doesn't testify of him being actually a baby in the cradle.
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But this was part of the miracle of Hazrat Eesa AS that he spoke as a baby.....along with his miraculous conception and the many other miracles he performed.
sNOVA: If I give you a sarcastic remark like " tum to doodh peetay buchay ho, tum nahee sumjho gay ... " does it literally makes you an infant?
Did you read the preceding verses? What is bothering you to be exact? Is it the fact that Jesus(as) spoke when he was a baby? Well its a miracle! like his miraculous birth! why are you overlooking this fact? Other than that i dont find any inclination in the Koran which in anyway suggests that Jesus was a grown up man or a teenager. If you think that is impossible then ask yourself this obvious question : Can a child be born without a father? Its plain common sense
Th documentary is very inaccurate, venerates shia imams (with due respect) which in my opinion is like having popes and has nothing to do with Quran and Sunnah. In fact its quite obscene at places. One does not have to use obscene scenes and nudity to make a point. Some things may be right but overall it gives a messed up vision of the world. I do not think that the world has reached that point yet.
Full of plagiarism and copyright issues.....like thats the way Islam teaches us.... pathetic producers.
I honestly feel the video was made by the Satan himself. Go figure!
Re: The Arrivals...any1 seen it?
yep if u guys r so impressed with it, be pleased to know that all the sunnis (that includes abu bakar, umar and uthman - may Allah be pleased with them) r with dajjal and working for his cause....
i dont think how any sunni can see this and yet be all praises for such a thing....
i think dan brown did a better job in his da vinci'c code if a cooked up story is all that fascinates us....
the arrivals never mentioned anything abt hadhrat abubakr, umar, usman (ra) being with dajjal or anything about them. Infact they tried to step away from sunni-shia differences and spoke about unity, a whole episode dedicated to this very point.
as far as cooked up story is concerned, yes there are many things mentioned that are new to ppl, architecture n energy, energy portals on earth to open for dajjal to enter into this world, one wd have todo their own research to figure out if any of this is real. but governmental powers trying to control the world, freemasonry, illuminati, wars etc., these are not just cooked up stories.
yea i agreed wid most of that if not all. It got kinda fishy for me as they moved onto Islam. Dajjal will come through "energy portals" around the Earth which are being harnessed by buildings specifically placed there by Freemasons/illuminati....personal accounts of ppl attending secret meetings and talking to "secret voices" or something like satan....dono abt all that.
That hadith they kept mentioning, dajjals first day will be like 1000 of our yrs (british rule), next day like 100 yrs (american rule), next days like weeks (israeli rule?). Its all very interesting but how much of this is factual.
if you watch the series 'The AntiChrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian ShapeShifter' then energy, portals, dimensions, stargates will become all clear, its a long series of 500 episodes but talks about everything in arrivals in much more detail.
if you did not understand what the arrivals said on this topic about energy and stargates then i advise you to watch this series i recommend which will make it 100 times more clear for you.
Re: The Arrivals...any1 seen it?
its not about sunni and shias, except some of the info on imam mahdi can be abit controversial for sunnis, if you are a sunni or even a shia and would like to see some more truth then i suggest you watch the series 'age of dajjal' on youtube and it talks about imam mahdi from a sunni view and exposes shias being a part of dajjals movement, some of the info on shias was mindblowing.
Re: The Arrivals...any1 seen it?
Take it for what it is- entertainment. Although it contains some useful information, most of the facts are unauthenticated and at time far stretched. Watch it with a pinch of salt.
About Imam Al Mahdi (as)- he can not be either with the Shias or the Sunnis or any other group for that matter. Representatives of Allah (swt) never belong to any particular group or sect but rather they come for the whole humanity. They stand with the righteous and strive for the Haq against the Baatil (which is the common mission of all the representatives of Allah).
[21:105] And verily we have written in the Scripture, after the Reminder: My righteous slaves will inherit the earth
its not about sunni and shias, except some of the info on imam mahdi can be abit controversial for sunnis, if you are a sunni or even a shia and would like to see some more truth then i suggest you watch the series 'age of dajjal' on youtube and it talks about imam mahdi from a sunni view and exposes shias being a part of dajjals movement, some of the info on shias was mindblowing.
I don't have to watch that video to see how ridiculous that sounds. Imam Mahdi will come to this earth to unite all Muslims. There might be situations where Sunnis and Shias will claim him but that will be quickly wiped out by Imam Mahdi himself.
As far as the Shia biased is concerned. I am a Sunni and have no problem with their POV. As a matter of fact they even praised the first 3 Caliphs in their documentary. They might not even be Shia after that episode.
They made it clear how Muslims are not the enemy of one another. We shouldn't waste our time bickering over historical times. And instead work on our Iman and prepare for the final day.
I don't have to watch that video to see how ridiculous that sounds. Imam Mahdi will come to this earth to unite all Muslims. There might be situations where Sunnis and Shias will claim him but that will be quickly wiped out by Imam Mahdi himself.
As far as the Shia biased is concerned. I am a Sunni and have no problem with their POV. As a matter of fact they even praised the first 3 Caliphs in their documentary. They might not even be Shia after that episode.
They made it clear how Muslims are not the enemy of one another. We shouldn't waste our time bickering over historical times. And instead work on our Iman and prepare for the final day.
have you even seen the other works of these guys, the series made before arrivals 'dajjal the antichrist is reptaile' clearly mentions shia are real islam.
as for the caliphs mentioned in the arrivals it wasnt their in the original version and was added after when there was a backlash on them and they were forced to put it in.
the series was good untill the shia doctrine took over, but you should watch age of dajjal which is way better and more eye opening,
Re: The Arrivals...any1 seen it?
I didn't like the part they put in about Abdul Wahab. Looked like a low blow to me.
I’m watching ‘The Arrivals’ right now on YouTube, I’m in part 29 now. I think parts of it are fascinating and about other parts, I’m not sure what to believe. Someone in this thread mentioned the makers are Shia, is that is so, then how much of the Islamic info in this documentary is accurate? Is it worth finishing?
It’s also available now on their website, alongside two other documentaries:
I recently watched a trailer on YouTube of ‘The Arrivals’, specialy made for ARY, it will air in Urdu on ARY beginning this month, if anyone is interested:
Well, I've just finished the entire series now. It was very intriguing and I recommend this to everyone.
There are certain topics I don't know much about and some topics I know nothing about, so I can't judge the accuracy of this documentary on certain subject matters. I wholeheartedly agree with some of the things being said in this documentary, I disagree with some of it and am unsure what exactly to think about the rest of it.
It certainly is very thoughtprovoking and an eye opener on some topics. Wether you agree with the content or not, it's definitely worth watching from the first to the last part.
I also wanted to add that whatever the personal believes are of the makers, they're not trying to impose any one view upon us. That's not the impression I got anyway.
Re: The Arrivals...any1 seen it?
please someone can tell me where i can see the whole documentary?