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I do not agree with your view but lets leave it as I have a lot of respect for you and Hareem.
I truly love you brother ehsan ... And I am always impressed with how much you and your family want Pakistan to to become the country it was envisaged to become.
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Sa1eem ... I'm avoiding an argument at this time out of respect ...
Another way to look at this situation is to see that this was an act of desperation ... TTP are crumbling and they did this horrific act. So if anything it is a sign of their weakness ... However, In future the more our army wipes them out they should do more to protect our soft targets ... Because we can expect these human cum animals to be immoral to the highest degree and fight to the last brainwashed bone in their bodies. So we should be smart and cover our soft targets.
How many 'soft targets' are there in the whole of Pakistan and how many of those targets Pakistan army can physically protect?
Just to let you know, only in the year of 2014, the *KPK Police alone had folied 103 terrorist attacks, defused 316 suicide jackets and IEDs and arrest 174 terrorists. There has been a substantial decrease in instances of improvised explosive device (IED) blasts, vehicle-borne (VB) IED attacks and suicide attacks this year 25%, 50% and 45%, respectively. *(Source: Express Tribune December 13, 2014)
So yes, we have made significant improvement in foiling terrorists attacks and saving many innocent lives. The symbolic significance of attack of Army parade on Wagha Border earlier, and the attack on Army school on the all important date of 16th December is far from a trigger happy, knee jerk reaction of any particular 'unjust' strike by Pak army .
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Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
How many 'soft targets' are there in the whole of Pakistan and how many of those targets Pakistan army can physically protect?
Just to let you know, in the year of 2014, the *KPK Police had alone had folied 103 terrorist attacks, defused 316 suicide jackets and IEDs and arrest 174 terrorists. There has been a substantial decrease in instances of improvised explosive device (IED) blasts, vehicle-borne (VB) IED attacks and suicide attacks this year 25%, 50% and 45%, respectively. *(Source: Express Tribune December 13, 2014)
So yes, we have made significant improvement in foiling terrorists and saving many innocent lives. The symbolic significance of attack of Army parade on Wagha Border earlier, and attack on Army school on on the all important date of 16th December is far from a trigger happy, knee jerk reaction of any particular 'unjust' strike by Pak army .
Peace Jolie
Please treat my words with the way they are supposed to be understood. I am not asking about effectiveness on a military level ... I am merely asking one thing ... While doing any of these operations have we ensured we have taken the morally correct or superior position? If so then fine ... But I fear this haunts us because we have not been so high in moral acts ourselves. And if there is nothing we could have done and nothing we did wrong ... Then please be patient with Allah (SWT) because He is teaching us something ... And He has provided a means for these terrorists to earn hell ...
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Peace Jolie
Please treat my words with the way they are supposed to be understood. I am not asking about effectiveness on a military level ... I am merely asking one thing ... While doing any of these operations have we ensured we have taken the morally correct or superior position? If so then fine ... But I fear this haunts us because we have not been so high in moral acts ourselves. And if there is nothing we could have done and nothing we did wrong ... Then please be patient with Allah (SWT) because He is teaching us something ... And He has provided a means for these terrorists to earn hell ...
Yes we have. Now if you wish to state otherwise please provide proof. The Army and the government have always announced before starting an operation for which we have been accused of letting the Taliban slip away. The local tribes have always formed jirgas to speak to the Military. The local leaders have always been informed by the military and the political agent that an operation is starting.
People have left with women and children in the millions. So yes we have done what has been morally responsible as a nation and as people.
If you believe otherwise provide proof.
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Peace Jolie
Please treat my words with the way they are supposed to be understood. I am not asking about effectiveness on a military level ... I am merely asking one thing ... While doing any of these operations have we ensured we have taken the morally correct or superior position? If so then fine ... But I fear this haunts us because we have not been so high in moral acts ourselves. And if there is nothing we could have done and nothing we did wrong ... Then please be patient with Allah (SWT) because He is teaching us something ... And He has provided a means for these terrorists to earn hell ...
Have you seen the terrain where these rats hide after killing us? They would have long gone by the time our troops reach their hideouts.
If we were fighting a regular army in plains, I would accept what you say. In the current situation, aerial attacks are the most effective.
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Peace Jolie
Please treat my words with the way they are supposed to be understood. I am not asking about effectiveness on a military level ... I am merely asking one thing ... While doing any of these operations have we ensured we have taken the morally correct or superior position? If so then fine ... But I fear this haunts us because we have not been so high in moral acts ourselves. And if there is nothing we could have done and nothing we did wrong ... Then please be patient with Allah (SWT) because He is teaching us something ... And He has provided a means for these terrorists to earn hell ...
Of course we have. We repeatedly gave them the offer to talk, we delayed operations for as long as we could just to find easy and speedy way out of this conflict to make life easier for the locals, Pakistan army and the rest of Pakistan's population. We offered them to surrender, and even went as far as saying that that they won't face punishment if they lay down their weapons. When they rejected, ridiculed and exploited our moral high ground, we asked all civilians to evacuate the area. Now what exactly do you suggest we do after doing all that? Please practical solution, not more rhetorical sophistry. Please tell us how we can make this war more humane for the terrorists.
Just a post ago, you accused Pakistan army of carrying out mindless aerial strikes, killing their children (unintentionally..if there are any children in that area) and that gave them the perfect excuse to handpick our children and butcher them in a manner that one would not even dare kill an animal. I'm trying my utmost best to take your words on face value and give you all the benefit of doubt that I could possibly offer you. But there will be a limit, emotions are high, we are wounded, so be very careful how far you take this call for 'mercy'.
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I am amazed at some of you guys' patience in responding to this designated Taliban apologist (though she may think she isn't doing that). Some crimes are so heinous, that they don't need any explanation of why they happened. There is no justifiable reason, and she doesn't get that. I have nothing nice to say to her and I don't want to get banned just yet.
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World is not that bad of a place after all. Entire world has come together regardless of their caste, religion, color , nationality, and sect has expressed their solidarity with pakistan.
It proves that humanity knows how to unite when hour of need comes.
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Its such a shame how some of Pakistani media is still trying to play dirty politics.
Ofcourse they hv to make money so why waste any time in that!!
I hate this media now.
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That lal masjid guy needs to be made an example of. Anyone who at this point doesn't show solidarity with students killed needs to be arrested and considered an accomplice in this crime.
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
Its such a shame how some of Pakistani media is still trying to play dirty politics.
Ofcourse they hv to make money so why waste any time in that!!
I hate this media now.
Media should not propagate and mouthpiece of wrong view.
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
Its such a shame how some of Pakistani media is still trying to play dirty politics.
Ofcourse they hv to make money so why waste any time in that!!
I hate this media now.
what are they saying ?
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^ Bringing lal masjid molvi in talk show, rest you know... kuttay ki dum soo saal tak bhi straight kar kay rakhi jaye.. woh terhi hi rahy gi...
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^ Bringing lal masjid molvi in talk show.
which media house ?
Who is he talking against/for ?
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which media house ? Who is he talking against/for ?
Video clip is roaming on facebook. I cannot post it now, but will post later.
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ok, thanks.
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@SID_NY If you can access facebook, please post video here.
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I swear to god this is the first full on attack of terrorism in which I felt like crying, I can't believe coward men massacared KIDS. If the is the future of Pakistan, then I guess I won't identify it no more, but I hope not, R.I.P to all children ,and my deepest symphathies the heart broken parents who children were there dreams.
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We have to demand that our media houses stop giving air and print time to open Daaish and Taliban sympathizers. The LAAL MASJID maulvi is a prime example. We don't need to hear from him, black list him.