Terror attack in Mumbai, Hotel Oberoi under siege

why should we consider them even a international network.
although guy in the photo seems trained and goes well with the gun but it doesnt mean they were a kind of Big Network.

i am not trying to criticize india but frankly if they had done good planing they would have taken over taj and oberoi but it seems their goal was to cause mayhem and random killings and end at taj.

their planning was all based on Luck, they moved by foot or on a car and they were target in open for a while , a trained doesnt do that.

if there were any one police man with enough courage and patience he could have taken out atleast one of them each with a 3 nt 3 rifles they had with single shot.

now when they were in a car 1-2 policeman could have taken atleast 60% of occupants with pistols as they were packed in car in close proximity but it required patience and brains and in that situation its hard to keep.

as now indian media is saying their ultimate goal was to blow taj then what the heck they were doing on stations and roads why waste precious time and surprise.

to be very frank this episode was handled very poorly by indian establishment, poor police Job although many bravest lost their life specially Mr karkare not challenging their bravery but they way it was handled.
you dont go in being live on TV.

i see in one of video terroists were on road and policeman were taking cover on sides with rifles that was time when they would have taken them out easily.

haphazard, ill planned crude this was how security establishment was from start to end, i am surprised they put in lot of men without even proper knowledge how many terrorists are there, when you go in this way result is mayhem and that is what it was in the end...
commandos dont go in like that, take element of surprise and knowledge of target area and commando becomes almost like a ordinary soldier with a gun.

their target was not blowng up taj but to Kill innocents as many as possible and do the ending at Taj and they were local time would prove.

if they had happened here you know what our media would have been doing they would have been asking question for every lead they were sending in and the way operation was done govt would have been grilled and i am happy we have that kind of media which ask doesnt tells.

now Taj has denied that neither had worked or had checked in..
people watching and reading them must have gone nuts by now.

now look at that commando operation NSG Style

i am not blaming but guys this is state of affairs, gun lying on other side, ordinary people in the same room lying on floor probably for cover, sniper holding his rifle with one hand or loosely is this the way for a commando…
why dont you ask him to leave.

2 commando would either be killed or hurt if bullets comes in no chance of reply, sniper would be hit in the head before he can even react or need atleast a 2-4 seconds to react.

please enlighten me if i am wrong.

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The media was crazy to telecast every single detail on TV which obviously endangered so many peoples’ lives.

:omg:
They had public standing all around Taj, some even close to the entrance of it, while the shooting and blasts were happening! On CNN, the reporter said she was SHOCKED at how close everyone could get with all this going on inside Taj and none of the officials were there to stop them. She said she could even walk inside if she wanted to.

Lots of denials on the way, I am sure. The terrorists, according to the commandos, knew each and every corner of Taj and were moving around so freely despite of darkness, how is that even possible with them not being inside the hotel prior to the attack.
The terrorist himself is saying a few had checked in and were given ammunition WHILE they were staying as guest at the hotel and Taj is gonna deny it.

Well there’s the problem. The dude has fooled the commandos, and he is laying right behind them (and the satellite phone is visible too) and they don’t even know…tsk tsk tskk

"Even in the midst of the fighting, the security operation is riddled with holes. The Telegraph was able to gain access to the shattered lobby of the Oberoi hotel in the final throes of the fighting.

At least a dozen checkpoints made no security checks and the only official who did ask a question redirected the reporter to another part of the complex."
](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3534349/Mumbai-attacks-India-accused-of-bungling-anti-terror-operation-bombay-india.html)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3534349/Mumbai-attacks-India-accused-of-bungling-anti-terror-operation-bombay-india.html

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^Bunch of morons, I tell ya.

how could i miss there is third one on right trying to hide himself with what a vibrant colorful something and dude doesnt know it doesnt help he would have more chance of hiding himself sitting duck with his camouflaged gear than with that colorful thingy.

Appalling who had put them in....

after shootout at lokhandwala....... this will be the next reality based action movie!!! India's 9/11!! staring all the Khans to prove that they are true indians!!

i wonder what they will show in the film!! 20 some commandos can;t find one guy!!! how brave of them that he made them do all the circus for 24 hours! all by himself!!!!

the media presented the whole coverage in a manner as if they are giving a preview or review of the film!!! total insanity!!

Guys if I am not mistaken isn't Faridkot in India? Or is there one in Pak too? What about Jalalabad? Seems like these Indians are obsessed with Pakistan. Faridkot Pakistan, Jalalabad Pakistan, this is what their media is saying.

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^^^^ yes faridkot is in Punjab, India!! it is crazy that media is throwing all the info out to ppl without double checking!!!

they have captured one alive gunman...... and he already have many names, many nationalities, and belong from many cities of "Pakistan"

Jalalabad is in afghanistan!!! :S

hum log tu indian news channels kabhi isaaye muqa per hi dekhte hain....... imagine all the indians!! they watch it everyday!! kitni buri geography hogi unki!!!

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Too many confusing stories on TV media and internet.

But common among them are

1-Blame on Pakistan and muslims everywhere. People calling to eliminate Pskistan and calling names to muslims and talking ill of Islam.

2-irresponsible commnets from Indian high officials.

What will be the effect:
1- More problems for muslims and Pakistani.
2- Alienation of Pakistani from other muslims countries.
3- Lack of trust between other countries and pakistan.
4- Difficult life of common man in India.
5- Lack of trust from foriegners on India, its politicians and its security.
6- Extremely low rate of tourism in India and businesses from foriegn countries.
7- Further tension between Pakistan and India.
8- More encouragement of terrorist wana-be.
9-Further push in backward direction of asian markets.
10- Never ending cycle of blame game, violence and poverty.

Choices are there but hard to make.

Niether Pskistan nor India can ever live happily if this circle of blaming is not broken or finds a way to get smaller and dies. The only way it can die is by involving Pakistan in to the investigation.

Pakistan has the right to be involved specially it has been shouted all over the world for its alleged involvement.

Not the time to be defensive, but pakistan should demand proof and ask Indians to immediately stop blame game if India has no solid proof. Why should Pakistan or Pakistani ever be defensive or apologetic? The culprits dead bodies, interviews, electronic records etc. all should be accesible by Pakistani intelligence pr army personnels.

It should not be a joke to blame someone and not provide solid reason of blaming. Thats the way confidence in future can be built.

About the war rheatoric:
Both countires are nuclear powers. None will ever give up its position. Lots of lives are at steak with emotions high. Pakistan will use any of its resources to defend. Even an aunt will bite if comes under the foot of an elephant.

The truth must come out soon. Indians have not shown any responsible attitude if you see their media' and read their statements.

Their officials must take due process to shut down all speculations and hateful comments on their media. I am so impressed by Pakistani news media and its responsible attitude. (I was even appauled when the news actually included the statement of Indian officials on Pakistani Media and no counter response from Pakistani official till a few minutes later by the same newscaster) Late but at least it did come on air.

Pakistan can only help if given its dignity and due respect. Afterall Pakistan has suffered a lot itself in the hands of terrorism and can only help India if asked politely without irresponsible and know-all attitude.

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There's no Faridkot in Multan...this name sounds so fishy, its in Indian Punjab!

The Indian Security Forces are so idiotic, they didn't even have the BASIC SENSE to move the media and the mob of people from the terror site. ANYWHERE in the civilized world, such an area would be deemed too dangerous and would be cordoned off, and according to a CNN reporter, it would be cordoned off to such an extent that reporters wouldn't even be able to SEE the building...in this case they were just a few feet from the building, the bullets and the grenades! The sheer scale of ineptitude is mindboggling. To think such forces would be able to get down to the terrorist's location/origins in a matter of hours is very unlikeley, moreover, there IS NO FARIDKOT IN PUNJAB!

The Indian government has EVERY incentive to point the fingers at Pakistan, if it does not, their government will be under huge pressure to resign because this was more like a gangrape of city than just a simple assault.

Waisay I would say, ek daffa why not just attack us and end the whole hollow posturing, that's what has been going on for the last 15 years. We will reply with whatever we can. But this posturing, blame-allocating with flimsy evidence extracted through an inept security infrastrusture has to end.

Apparently there's a faridkot in Multan, Pakistan where this guy belongs to.

Jalalbad in karachi , jalal bhais house :)

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Boy they must’ve been in a rush to release this news bit:

Faridkot is in India. :rotfl:

Faridkot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some reports are also claiming the hindu terrorist hails from Azad Kashmir’s Faridkot. It’s one heck of a town if it can move all over the country.

:rotfl:
farid bhai ki kothi.

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According to Rakesh Mario (the guy investigating Ajmal from “Faridkot”) Ajmal studied till 4th grade.
hmmm and yet he speaks fluent English. :hmmm:

SOURCE BBC RADIO URDU SERVICE shabnama.