Al-qaeda is killing their own people to now? It just keeps getting better.
what ever it was, it was an cowardly act…
our teachings clearly states that we cannot attack innocent civilians…
see this ARAB link for the damage caused.
http://www.muslm.org/showthread.php?threadid=83462
i m sorry , i cant copy paste all the pics, so epalse see it for your self.
Sad. Where are the defenders of terrorists hiding now?
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sholay,
Overall terrorism is down, I suppose this event is pretty horrific, but not real scary to Americans. That expats are attacked in KSA is not awfully suprising, and apparently Al-Qaeda has been degraded to the point where attacks on the US, IN the US are no longer possible. Bin Laden's support has always been evident in SA. The fact that more attacks have not taken place is really sort of suprising. I would consider this a major embarrassment to the Saudis, more than an attack on the US.
The real problem is that the Saudi's will really come down hard and be more oppressive than they are already. Ultimately Bin Laden wants to bring down the House of Saud more than anything. Creating a culture where no westerner can safely enter the country is a desperately sad state of affairs.
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You are quite right my dear. Every american can feel more safe now all around the world or at home. After your goverments great victories in Afghanistan and Iraq Al-qaeeda is destroyed.
I also think that americans can travel safely all around the world and in special to the muslim countries. After what have happened in KSA its more likely that americans would go there for buisness. The multinationals will now send thousands of there staff members to muslim countries when they can have them insured so cheap and at so little risk as it is today.
Good luck and have a pleasent travel.
Just a last question. How much has/is your country spent on security after 11/9 ? What about the war in Afghanistan and war on terror?
I´m happy that your tax money is spent so pragmatically dont you think so?
By the way next time your goverment issues terroralert at home whould that be a practical joke or something which is serious buisness?
not at all Seminole, one only has to be a bit cynical…
In the early Eighties Time magazine reported that two employees were embroiled in a failed attempt to overthrow Maurice Bishop, the left-wing Prime Minister of Grenada, and soon after that a former employee was implicated in the Iran-Contra scandal
And guess who is the senior advisor for the Carlyle Group?
James Baker
Its not that’s its very unbelievable, may god help them even further, but the Bakers or Saudes or the Carlyle’s, or the Vinnell’s they are all the same and serve each other. My point is simple, there are 18 million Saudis, and 20,000 family members of one clan own the oil industry, and all these whom I have mentioned above are just serving the 20,000, this is were the problem is, they know it the Saudis know it as well.
So helping the oppression is like being the oppressor.
MiniMe:
The form and structure of the Saudi government (i.e. recognition of the royal family and monarchy) was established long before the US had any footprints in SA. Rival Saudi clans fought for decades in the early 20th century before this line of succession prevailed and was recognized as legimate by the Saudi people.
So many people outside of SA criticize that government today and, indeed, it appears to be a ruthless and oppressive one. But, let me ask, when did that government become illegitmate?
Do you really think the US will cave in to these terrorists so the only thing a goup has to do in the future is to blow up some innocent civilians to further their cause? Once people like you stop condoning these actions as legitimate acts, there might just be a chance for the causes/people you advocate. The only thing this partial list you posted proves is that the war on terror started 30 years too late, not that it has been ineffective since 9/11.
Seminole
It's not just the 'terrorists' that are demanding that US changes it's foreign policy!
Most of the world knows that the foreign policy stinks and favours certain countries or should I say a certain country! It's just that most of these countries are too chicken sh.. to actually do something about it, thus putting the burden on the so called terrorists to act.
If the policy did not have quadruple standards from the offset, do you honestly think the US would be in the mess that it is in right now? I thought as much.
Nevertheless, your'e right about one thing. The US would never cave in. The real people who pull the strings in the US would never allow it and if by any miracle it did happen, US would actually be using some real intellect.
But in reality, that's asking a bit too much.
4 arrested today in Saudi..
3 were members of al Qaeda.
2 were botanists.
Y'know.. I really dislike this attention that we give aQ. Before we know anything about a given incident assumptions are made that they did it. They usually did, but I am not talking about this to spare the feelings of so far innocent terrorists.
Labelling everything so quickly and putting such an emphasis on the label leads to complacency. If we hear about Qaeda enough we will marginalize them. We assume we know everything they are capable of doing, but we always leave the wildcard available.. even though we disregard it in our thought. The term ovesimplifies something that is very complex. AlQaeda is not an evil syndicate like something found on a tv spy drama. People are members but they often have never met another member, at least not one that has ever met a connected member (though they all say that). Qaeda is the cool thing in terror now. I betcha the RAF (yes, they're back) is going to start signing their notes "OBL". Giving the problem such a cookie cutter mentality doesn't help the solution.