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Originally posted by Ali_R:
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Ali,
Don't you think you need to decide between the two. I mean how can be one an Agent of two at the same time!
:)
Sorry Changez_like if I violated the thread rules, but I couldn't resist!
ahmedjee, we can discuss in separate, help me keep this thread 'dedicated' to people disclosing their beleif. I don't think that it is a matter of inferiority if you DISCLOSE.
I hope Tanhaa, Mullah Do_Piazza and others will also come by and disclose what they beleive in.
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
1a Do you beleive in one God/Allah?
Yes.
1b Do you beleive in more than one God?
No.
2a. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as a messenger of Allah?
Yes.
2b. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as LAST messenger of Allah?
Yes.
2c. What do you think of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed:
i Revivalist
ii Prophet
iii Mahdi
iv Messiah + Mahdi
v Impostor
Don't know much about this individual.
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Originally posted by ahmadjee:
** Ali,
Don't you think you need to decide between the two. I mean how can be one an Agent of two at the same time!
:)
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If i follow their roots (AMERICANS), they are both of same blood. :)
Their nature aswell!
"kaisay na karta usko main pyar, uski haseen main sukh thay hazaar, bichar gayay hum dukh ki hay baat"
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Originally posted by Changez_like:
**Sometimes it is very helpful to know what other parties are talking about and what background they are coming from. Since this is religion forum, so just tell about your religion.
1a Do you beleive in one God/Allah?
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I DO BELIEVE IN ALLAH
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1b Do you beleive in more than one God?
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NO
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2a. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as a messenger of Allah?
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YES
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2b. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as LAST messenger of Allah?
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YES
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2c. What do you think of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed:
i Revivalist
ii Prophet
iii Mahdi
iv Messiah + Mahdi
v Impostor
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v IMPOSTER
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My Beliefs:
1 Since everything in this universe must have a beginning, I have concluded that there has to be a god.
Only one god is necessary and sufficient.
I have no idea why he/she made the universe and me.
As god he/she should not need or want anything. Needs and wants are human desires. So I have no idea what he expects of me.
Historically I have noticed that an individual is happy when he treats others as he would like to be treated. Since I dont like pain, I dont cause anyone pain. I like to live my own life and I let othere live their own lives. I help others and they usually help me.
These are my conclusions and can be treated as beliefs for the time being. Just in case further evidence shows that some concepts need to be altered, I keep an open mind.
Hazrat Mohammed was a great human being with a lot of wisdom which I apply in my life. There have been many such good people and there will be many more in the future.
Since human behaviour in our society is governed by religions, I try to understand the principles of religions and see how the practitioners are behaving. It helps to form my own value system and behaviour patterns. Hence I visit the Religion section.
I believe concept of God / Allaah is biggest fraud man ever created
I believe Jesus / Muhammed were good intellectual persons but ont son of God or last messenger of Allaah
I believe in humanity
I have no answer who breated this universe, why it was created I do not want to cash falsifying information as done by Jesus or Muhammed.
You behave with others the way you expect others to behave with you
I belive whole universe is my country and all the borders are nothing but for administration purpose.
I think there is no such think like Hallal or Haram( again man made ) if you like some think eat it, if you don't like then do not eat. It is so simple
honestali and Tanhaa, thank you for your inputs. it would have been much better if you had answered as "Yes" or "No". Thanks anyway.
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
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Originally posted by honestali:
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You behave with others the way you expect others to behave with you
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Where did this concept arise in the first place?
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Originally posted by aishaA:
** Where did this concept arise in the first place?
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This was the saying of Hazrat Isa (PBUH) when he said "Treat your neighbours as you would like them to treat you!". The christians call this as the 'Golden Rule.' And ofcourse we believe in the teachings of Hazrat Isa (PBUH). And all other prophets taught the same thing. And to answer bro. Changez's question:
1a. Yes
1b. No
2a. Yes
2b. Yes
2c. v Imposter
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can other members of this forum enlighten in what they beleive as well? please keep your answer to YES / NO (look at the 1st message of this post). Thank you.
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
1a Do you beleive in one God/Allah?
1b Do you beleive in more than one God?
2a. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as a messenger of Allah?
2b. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as LAST messenger of Allah?
2c. What do you think of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed:
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“I am not playing with a full deck!”
[This message has been edited by Abdul Basit (edited September 04, 2001).]
1a Do you believe in one God/Allah?
Ibrahim says; YES, only in ?Allah (swt)? not God as this can be misconstrued and refer to unknown entities too.
1b Do you believe in more than one God?
Ibrahim says; NO, not possible and becomes illogical
2a. Do you believe in Prophet PBUH as a messenger of Allah?
Ibrahim says: Yes!
2b. Do you believe in Prophet PBUH as LAST messenger of Allah?
Ibrahim says; Yes.. conveyed from the beginning in all scriptures ( Veda, Torah, Gospel and Qur?an)
2c. What do you think of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed:
i Revivalist
ii Prophet
iii Mahdi
iv Messiah + Mahdi
v Impostor
Ibrahim says: imposter
Ibrahim says; ** Islam has NO SECTS,** (but Islam will become divided, due to politics and deviants) anyone believing they are following a particular sect have not yet understood Islam.
Islam is represented by the Qur?an and Sunnah=hadiths for all times and all generations.
Those who follow what is conveyed in the Qur?an and Hadiths as best as they could should ** ONLY CALL THEMSELVES as Muslims and nothing else.**
May Allah (swt) guide us to remove the ?other labels? we have established for ourselves due to lack of knowledge.
anyone else to disclose his/her beleif?
Changez Bhai , aap ka census to ho gaya. Ab kya????? conclusions??? report???
1a Do you beleive in one God/Allah?
YES
1b Do you beleive in more than one God?
NO
2a. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as a messenger of Allah?
YES
2b. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as LAST messenger of Allah?
YES
2c. What do you think of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed:
i Revivalist
ii Prophet
iii Mahdi
iv Messiah + Mahdi
v Impostor
Messiah+Mehdi
3. If you are Muslim/Momin what sect do you belong to?
i. Shia (which shia)
ii. Sunni (which sunni)
iii. Ahmed (which ahmedi)
iv. Others ( I don't know if there is a possibility of others, but just to give an option).
Ahmadi Muslim
"Away from Eyes......Close to Heart"
1a Do you beleive in one God/Allah?
Yes
1b Do you beleive in more than one God?
No
2a. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as a messenger of Allah?
Yes
2b. Do you beleive in Prophet PBUH as LAST messenger of Allah?
Yes
2c. What do you think of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed:
i Revivalist
ii Prophet
iii Mahdi
iv Messiah + Mahdi
v Impostor
v..Imposter
Sunni (Hanafi)
*"Labaik, Allahumma Labaik, Labaik La Sharika Laka Labaik, Innal Hamda Wa N'amata Laka Wal Mulk, La Sharika Lak." "Here I am at your service, O Allah, here I am. Here I am at your service and no partners do you have. Verily All Praise and All Bounty belong to you, and Yours alone is The Sovereignty. No partners do you have."
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