Teen abortion rate shocks UK

[SindSagar]

And as a fellow human being, you proved yourself to be one, by first assuming Im a Vulcan, and secondly assuming I meant 'increasing contraception' was the answer I was suggesting. Increasing the means wont help, educating people how to use it, and why they should use it does. You sound like the mollahs in Swat refusing polio vaccinations because they would make them infertile.

Come on, its lack of contraception and birth control that leads to unwanted pregnancies, even a little kid knows that nowadays.

Yeah but your Islamic ideology wont apply here, this is england, the Govt has no say in telling the ppl how to live their lifestyles out, or interfere in their private matters. You live in England, not Afghanistan.

:)......All the British teenage Girls should wear Chastity Belts.......a superb Western Invention............:biggthumb

[Spock]

@psyah

Peace again bro Spock

Again … it is the not the lack of contraception in itself. Look putting it simply. Let’s group people in classes:

a) Will not have sex very early before marriage or until later even if they had the opportunity to do so, based on religious or moral convictions

b) These people will NOT have sex because there is high risk of becoming pregnant if they did

c) Others would still have sex, but seek and use contraception

d) Will have sex and actively seek to avoid contraception for whatever reason

When contraception availability is high some people from d) will move into category c) which is what you are saying, but what I am saying is that some people from category b) will move into c).

Contraception is an industry and it is intended to maximise its use and sales. However, contraception is also not 100%. Let’s say when contraception availability is low then the numbers in groups b) c) and d) will be x, y, z. However, when availability is high then we will get

b) = x - delta(x), d) = z - delta(z) and c) = y + delta(x) + delta(z).

Because some of b) and d) move into c)

Approx 95% of contraception works so in low contraception availability the numbers pregnant in this category will be 0.95 * y, however, the numbers pregnant in this category will increase due to additions from b) and c) in high availabilities of contraception.

There will be a net fall in the d) people admitted … but more emphasis is being made to convert the b)'s in to c)'s. Additionally the type of education as I have earlier shown from the videos encourages a shift in all categories upwards. So a)'s become b)'s and b)'s are more likely to become c)'s and c)'s to become d)'s.

By the combined effect of inadequate sex education i.e. not stressing the moral obligation of abstinence and encouraging promiscuity (no religion mentioned) then you will get the observed increase that facts are showing. Of course this is the reason why the figures are increasing. Otherwise we would see a decrease not an increase had contraception or current types of sex education been of any benefit.

How can I possibly assume you are a vulcan? Though I said it … I hope it was clear that it was a ‘statement made in jest’. I understand Star Trek to be fictional. I’ll ignore the inferences about me resembling the Mullahs.

Ok, youre getting boring with those long responses so ill keep it short bro:

1. People in western countries will have sex, like it or not… Theres nothing that will stop them, and the Govt should have no say in how they live their lives. Again, this is Britain and not Afghanistan, the Govt doesn’t interfere in peoples lives, and wont ask them to grow beards either.

2. The govt can only educate them with the dangers of having unprotected sex, so that they don’t ruin their lives.

3. Lets see now, the effectiveness of birth control pills is around 98-99%, MORE than enough even if not used with another form of birth control which brings it almost to 100%, so I didn’t go through your equations because you are no birth control expert.

4. I could be Dr. Spock, the baby doctor too!

[hareem01]

@Spock

Ok, youre getting boring with those long responses so ill keep it short bro:

1. People in western countries will have sex, like it or not… Theres nothing that will stop them, and the Govt should have no say in how they live their lives. Again, this is Britain and not Afghanistan, the Govt doesn’t interfere in peoples lives, and wont ask them to grow beards either.

2. The govt can only educate them with the dangers of having unprotected sex, so that they don’t ruin their lives.

3. Lets see now, the effectiveness of birth control pills is around 98-99%, MORE than enough even if not used with another form of birth control which brings it almost to 100%, so I didn’t go through your equations because you are no birth control expert.

4. I could be Dr. Spock, the baby doctor too!

I agree with you…Govt should not encourage premarital sex in teenagers in schools.

Again, this is Britain and not Afghanistan, the Govt doesn’t interfere in peoples lives, and wont ask them to grow beards either.

We know this is not Afghanistan and the white non muslims who are criticizing Govt’s policies also know this but Govt has a major role in approving curriculums for schools and what children learn in schools through this national curriculum directly affects parents and society.

[hareem01]

Re: Teen abortion rate shocks UK

I'm posting comments by people living in the UK from a newspaper:

Why are we not hearing of any prosecutions agianst the men getting these girls pregnant? If a girl has a child at a young age it's splashed all over the papers and glorified - it's against the law to have sex before 16. We are reeping what we have sown now!!

karen, poole,

Sex education to little childen is not necessary. The sooner the government realises that the better it is. Early sex, pergnancy, abortion all lead to emotional imbalance, broken homes, gang culture, drug, self harm, suicides etc., Hope the Society and the Government wake up .

rosalind, london, uk

Children are naturally curious about "grown up" things and some parents give little guidance. Commercial interests then sexualise tiny children by manipulating peer pressure through tv adverts. No wonder they fall pregnant believing they are grown up and in love. Let them be kids for God's sake.

Sonny B, Whitley Bay, United Kingdom

There has been a rise in knife crime among teenagers too. Should we therefore be teaching them how to avoid the consequences of weapons, such as safer knife handling, and how to avoid arrest?

Nick, Rotherham, UK

More sex education = more sex. The figures prove it

Phil, Preston,

I can't elieve why there is any need to teach 5 year old's about sex education. I have a five year old lad and would not think it appropriate for him to have such a education at his age. Let children be children.

Kash, Birmingham

Kashmir Rai, Birmingham, West Midlands

Teaching sex to children of 5, you are asking for trouble. But then again our Marxist establishment think its fantastic.

The country is run by idiots, we however are the real idiots for letting them stay in power.

Mikek, Liverpool, UK

Understand what you're reading:
Teenage pregnancies down from 4.66 to 4% while the abortion rate increases.

So less teenage girls are getting pregnant, and fewer still decide to carry to term.

The target has not been met, but there is an improvement.

So perhaps education does work...

Jon Dawkins, Bristol,

Children at 5 is innocent why teach them of sex. I believed that many teens here have no concept of having baby after sex and the responsibility to be a parent. Everything goes with joys & curiosity which are the big problems. They will think twice if they know the consequence to bear later.

j, aberdeen, UK

More sex education? A person in today's society who does not realise that having sex can let to pregnancy or a sexually transmitted disease must have been living in a cupboard for the past 20 years.

G. Beattie, Worcester,

[hareem01]

Re: Teen abortion rate shocks UK

some more.....

Sex education is obviously not the answer. Stop the benefits.

Kate, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, England

If kids think something is bad and wrong, they will want to do it more. Drink/Drugs/Smoking is "frowned" upon, so of course they are going to want to rebel and do it. The more you say no, the more they will say Yes Yes Yes!! It's such simple Child Psychology.

Seetal Udeshi, London, UK, UK

Teenagers are educated about sex, but every teenager I've ever known who has had sex at a very young age has done so because they are miserable, they think that no-one, (especially their parents) love them. I don't know how you change that?

Liz, Ely, Cambridgshire, UK

Having sex with a girl under the age of 16 is illegal. It is also child abuse. The boy/man responsible for this illegal activity should be prosecuted. In these days of DNA sampling it should be easy to prove who the responsible male is - so why aren't they prosecuted?

S.Hill, Prague,

instead of bringin sex ed so early you should teach VERY clearly teenagers how to read the girl's ovulation. they should be much more awear of the woman's fertility and the clear indicators of ovulation. Why teach in such a detail the wight of a sperm and you skip each stage of the ovulation.

Maria Jerez, London,

the big problem is that you teach sex way to early "under a loving relationship" why is it so dificult to give them the guideline at school and the teaching that sex is for marriage!
It my be utopic for you but at least set a standard at school!!!
trying to be pc's you are actually killing babies!!

Monica, Glasgow,

And why should 'Teens' care,?
We recently with ease, passed being able to have an Abortion up to 24weeks, we kept this Law the same.

We make it look easy to have an Abortion in the UK!
(and so it is)

Sex Education is a waste of time, when we make 'Abortion' look and is so easy.

Charles Linskaill, Edinburgh, UK

Any abortion is a tragedy. Isn't moral guidance more important even than sex education for everyone? My heart weeps for them, partly because there's no encouragement to develop self-control and other strong moral values, enabling them to avoid the situation in the first place, and be stronger women.

J Long, York, North Yorkshire

Sex education has demonstrably failed to reduce underage pregnancy. The relativism that pervades almost every aspect of modern life has eliminated the consquences of such action. Isn't sex under 16 illegal? A return to condemnation and elimination of excess support would soon bring the numbers down

Bob Finbow, Haverhill, England

Increasing sex education at school has nothing to do with it, what is provided is more than adequate. Moral values and self worth has gone down hill and this problem will only get worse unless parents and society are allowed to parent as they should: with values like love, respect, dicipline, honour

Chin Swain, Ashwell, UK

[Spock]

Re: Teen abortion rate shocks UK

**Increasing sex education at school has nothing to do with it, what is provided is more than adequate. Moral values and self worth has gone down hill and this problem will only get worse unless parents and society are allowed to parent as they should: with values like love, respect, dicipline, honour

Chin Swain, Ashwell, UK

**True, but the problem here is, the Govt isnt the morality police...

[ravage]

Re: Teen abortion rate shocks UK

government isnt the answer to everything. this is clearly something that parents can be much more effective in than government employees. train the parents to keep their kids in check, if anything.

[hareem01]

Re: Teen abortion rate shocks UK

Parents think it's school's responsibility to teach kids morals. School doesn't teach moral, it teaches subjects, one learns moral values from its parents and family.

Majority of these teen girls are from working class and broken families so they don't get the real opportunity to learn morals etc.

[citrine]

Re: Teen abortion rate shocks UK

aap eik moral school khol len naa^^

[Aliyish]

@citrine

aap eik moral school khol len naa^^

Good idea .. ishe BahaNe tumharay Bachay BiGarne se bach jain Gay

[citrine]

Re: Teen abortion rate shocks UK

^^ apne duniya ke bachon ka theka lia hua he?