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bus aab to iss he tarah khush hona hay :omg:
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Re: PA memes/funny pics
Gaaliyaan bakna ? Kahaan ? In my post ? You need a little rest. You are starting to see things. Unless you are thinking of your insulting posts.
Main nay to aik simple savaal kiya tha. :chai:
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Lmao
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aur yeh news aa ra hi ha geo pe :cb:
Re: Talking Pictures…
Even after 3 generations, all they have done is photo op 
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:omg:
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Difference is Lies, propaganda and deception 
Musharraf was in Islamabad and could not have had any idea what was happening in Karachi, where armed political parties were fighting and killing each other.
Nevertheless, whatever happened in Karachi, no state institutions were involved … no police, ranger, or army was involved … but civilians having go at each other without any state presence in crime. Most who got killed were armed or in groups of armed men. No woman or children got killed or hurt.
On 17th June: Police was used by Thug Nawaz to kill unarmed innocent men, women, children, old, young, infant, and even unborn (as dogs of Nawaz in police uniform also killed pregnant women along with her fetus). On June 17th, one can see Gullu Shareef of Thug Brothers under the protection of police looting shops and vandalizing cars. Well, one can also see dogs in police uniform looting shops and having free meal. We can see unarmed innocent old and young men and women getting dragged on roads, and getting beaten up by dogs in police uniform.
Worse is that, no one put any hindrance on registering FIR for 12th May incident … but victims of 17th June killing not only lost their loved ones but were not allowed to even register FIRs. Rather, Thug Nawaz and his dogs in police uniform registered FIR against victims (extreme level of Zulum) … even when whole world saw what happened.
I am pretty sure that if Musharraf had not let media free, Thug Nawaz would have got away with 17th June killing too (as they have got away with many killings and atrocities they were involved in past). Without TV coverage that whole world seen, followers and supporters of Thug Nawaz would have spread propaganda that nothing happened on 17th June, and would have protested against anyone talking about 17th June Zulum (brutal murders) by Thug brothers.
So … those who compare 17th of June with 12th May, trying to portray both as same, they are not only showing dishonesty but are doing propaganda full of lies.
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Difference is Lies, propaganda and deception :)
*Musharraf was in Islamabad and could not have had any idea what was happening in Karachi, where armed political parties were fighting and killing each other. *
Really? What about live coverage of media showing ambulances being attacked in Karachi? Mr President was reading 'TV and Azaab e Qabr' at that time probably.
I stopped reading your post after this line, as I can't expect reasonableness and neutrality from a person who can write this line. Period.
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Really? What about live coverage of media showing ambulances being attacked in Karachi? Mr President was reading 'TV and Azaab e Qabr' at that time probably.
I stopped reading your post after this line, as I can't expect reasonableness and neutrality from a person who can write this line. Period.
You mean, President was in public gathering giving speech on stage ... and was still watching something happening on TV? Is that not dishonest imagination of worse kind that one can only say, propaganda and lies? ... Plus, whatever was happening in Karachi, do you think police and state institutions were involved?
As for what really happened in Karachi, there is enough evidence that no one party was involved, but we have armed men of many political parties fighting and shooting at each other ... and in the end, people from all political parties died too ... so, why blame government or Musharraf for political armed fights (something that regularly happens in Pakistan)?
When people blame Nawaz and Shahbaz government for killing of 17th June, it is because police was involved ... and killing was done of unarmed men, women and children, that whole world saw on many TV footage.
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Well, we all know that Thug Nawaz was paying for Iftikhar and throwing money on Media to show one sided story. Anyhow, let see Kashif Abbasi program (2011) on the issue much after Musharraf was gone … and one can hear kashif saying that all parties were firing.
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You mean, President was in public gathering giving speech on stage ... and was still watching something happening on TV? Is that not dishonest imagination of worse kind that one can only say, propaganda and lies? ... Plus, whatever was happening in Karachi, do you think police and state institutions were involved?
As for what really happened in Karachi, there is enough evidence that no one party was involved, but we have armed men of many political parties fighting and shooting at each other ... and in the end, people from all political parties died too ... so, why blame government or Musharraf for political armed fights (something that regularly happens in Pakistan)?
When people blame Nawaz and Shahbaz government for killing of 17th June, it is because police was involved ... and killing was done of unarmed men, women and children, that whole world saw on many TV footage.
Who was Interior Minister of Sindh at that time? wo kiya apni Saas ki gaud bharai main gaya huwa tha. And Sir, don't try to fool those who live in Karachi. Killings started from morning and continued till late night. Mr President was probably drinking from bottles brought by Ateeqa Odho, that who couldn't know what was being happening in the financial hub of the country where he also got home.
You don't try to bury 12th May issue by quoting 17 June killings. Both are serious matters and a person who really have some concerns about people and their lives should avoid comments like 'How could innocent president knew that.. Itna hi unjaan aur Doodh ko mum kehne wala kaaka tha na Musharraf to Shaam main Islamabad main tamashbeen ke roop main baRhaken na maarta. Rascal kahin ka.
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Who was Interior Minister of Sindh at that time? wo kiya apni Saas ki gaud bharai main gaya huwa tha. And Sir, don't try to fool those who live in Karachi. Killings started from morning and continued till late night. Mr President was probably drinking from bottles brought by Ateeqa Odho, that who couldn't know what was being happening in the financial hub of the country where he also got home.
You don't try to bury 12th May issue by quoting 17 June killings. Both are serious matters and a person who really have some concerns about people and their lives should avoid comments like 'How could innocent president knew that.. Itna hi unjaan aur Doodh ko mum kehne wala kaaka tha na Musharraf to Shaam main Islamabad main tamashbeen ke roop main baRhaken na maarta. Rascal kahin ka.
If Police or rangers had killed innocent unarmed people on 12th of May, than I would have accepted that it is possible Musharraf and Government were involved. But that was not the case, so I cannot say that government (or Musharraf) was involved.
I am not burying 12th May issue. What I am saying is that, on 12th May, many parties on one side had armed battle with MQM ... and we cannot blame one party, nor we can blame or make responsible government or Musharraf for what happened on 12th May.
[Actually, I believe reference against corrupt judge was correct, and it was political drama by anti-Musharraf parties that made 'hero of a thug', and caused all the killings in Karachi]
Obviously, when we talk about Karachi, MQM is most armed party with large number of men on ground, so if any armed conflict would happen, other parties will suffer most. That does not mean that what happened on 12th of May was one sided, rather it was multiple sided, many parties took part, and most parties lost their workers (along with some bystanders). To not accept that would be just trying to hide one face in sand.
ARY video I posted, it was result of wiki-leaks revelation on 12th May event, that Kashif Abbasi used for discussion, and according to Wiki-leaks, all parties are named and blamed.
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If Police or rangers had killed innocent unarmed people on 12th of May, than I would have accepted that it is possible Musharraf and Government were involved. But that was not the case, so I cannot say that government (or Musharraf) was involved.
Obviously, when we talk about Karachi, MQM is most armed party with large number of men on ground, so if any armed conflict would happen, other parties will suffer most. That does not mean that what happened on 12th of May was one sided, rather it was multiple sided, many parties took part, and most parties lost their workers (along with some bystanders). To not accept that would be just trying to hide one face in sand.
The video I posted, it was result of wiki-leaks revelation on 12th May event, that Kashif Abbasi discussed, and according to Wiki-leaks, all parties are named and blamed.
I agree all parties were involved. But law enforcing agencies just sitting idle also shows how much government was interested in security of the citizens. We just can't absolve Musharraf by saying 'he didn't know anything or 'he was unable to do anything in that situation'.
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I agree all parties were involved. But law enforcing agencies just sitting idle also shows how much government was interested in security of the citizens. We just can't absolve Musharraf by saying 'he didn't know anything or 'he was unable to do anything in that situation'.
Well, what Musharraf could have done is not to interfere on registration of FIR and should have started judicial inquiry on the incident.
Unlike Thug Nawaz (17th June incidence), I do not think Musharraf got FIR registered on parties against him (or victims), and did not let victims register FIR. As for judicial inquiry, things were so much in turmoil that no one can expect he could have done that.
Leave judicial inquiry, Corrupt judges of Supreme Court did not even allowed Supreme Judicial Council investigate Choor Judge iftikhar, so what judicial inquiry could have done on the issue?
On the other hand, MQM continuously asked for judicial inquiry on the issue during Zardari government (unsuccessfully), claiming that they are innocent. I am not saying they are as I do not know, but they claim they are innocent and firing started by PPI, ANP and PPP on them and their shooting was in reaction ... or self-defence. They also have videos to support their claims.
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**Officer Cadet Faiza Maqsood who won the Best Cadet trophy recently at the PAF Academy
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