sunni cleric killed in mosul

Society Pakistan & World Affairs
21

[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Sadiqaan:

I would do what is prescribed by Allah in such a situation, which is not indiscriminate killing of anyone and everyone as being done by the insurgents in Iraq. This world is a test for us humans to live by Allah’s guidance and not succumb to hatred, jealousy, revenge and bigotry, which are human traits that need to be contained by each individual. We alone our responsible for our actions and no one else will be to blame if we do not follow the Islamic way of peace, justice, equality and morality.
[/QUOTE]

Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula."

Malik said that Ibn Shihab said, ''Umar ibn al-Khattab searched for information about that until he was absolutely convinced that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had said, 'Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula,' and he therefore expelled the jews from Khaybar." (Book 45, Number 45.5.18 - Imam Malik's Muwatta)

Ibn Abbas said that the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) gave three instructions saying : “Expel the Polytheists from Arabia; reward deputations as I did …”. (Sunan Abu Dawud Hadith no.3023 page 860 Vol 2)

Yahya related to me from Malik from Ismail ibn Abi Hakim that he heard Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz say, "One of the last things that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said was, 'May Allah fight the jews and the christians. They took the graves of their Prophets as places of prostration . Two deens shall not co-exist in the land of the Arabs.' " (Book 45, Number 45.5.17 Imam Malik's Muwatta)

Jabir b. Abd Allah said that he was told by Umar b. al-Khattab that he heard, the Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) say: “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from Arabia, and I shall leave only Muslims in it”. – This has also been transmitted by Umar through a different chain of narrators. (Sunan Abu Dawud Hadith no.3024 & 3025 page 861 Vol 2)

Ibn Abbas reported the Messenger of Allah as saying: Two qiblahs in one land are not right. (Sunan Abu Dawud Hadith no.3026 page 861 Vol2)

This hadith refers to the expulsion of non-muslims from Arabia.
Sa’id Abd al Aziz said: “Arabia lies between al-Wadi to the extremes of the Yemen extending to the frontiers of al-Iraq and the sea” – al wadi refers to al wadi al Qura, which lies 240 miles (380 km) north of the Holy City of Madinah. (Sunan Abu Dawud Hadith no.3027 page 861 Vol2)

This Area is the whole of Saudi Arabia.
Malik Arabia, not far from the Yemeni border, 830 km south of Riyadh. Malik said, ''Umar ibn al-Khattab expelled the jews from Najran (a jewish settlement in the Yemen) and Fadak (a jewish settlement thirty miles from Medina). When the jews of Khaybar left, they did not take any fruit or land. The jews of Fadak took half the fruit and value of half the land, because the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had made a settlement with them for that. So Umar entrusted to them the value in gold, silver, camels, ropes and saddle bags of half the fruit and half the land, and handed the value over to them and expelled them." (Book 45, Number 45.5.19: Imam Malik's Muwatta)said : “Umar expelled the Jews of Najran and Fadak” (Sunan Abu Dawud Hadith no.3028 page 861 Vol 2) - Najran is in the south of Saudi Arabia.

22

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by ThandyMazaq: *
just answer this, if you were in iraq would you or would you not take up arms against an illegal occupying army? simple, no lengthy posts with nice words but no content.
[/QUOTE]

No, since wining a war against America is not a realistic possibility and only subjects Iraqis to more death and destruction from both sides. Waging an unwinnable Jihad is not in the interest of Muslims, even according to the Islam you follow. Correct me if I am wrong.

23

liveshoaib, I do not believe in these concoctions of mullahs. They are un Islamic.

24

Guys, lets put the focus back on the topic of this thread... which was killing of sunni clerics in Iraq.

For one, there is really no love lost between sunnis and shias, anywhere, let alone Iraq, where a minority sunnis had ruled the whole country through Baath party for the last many years. Obviously shias hate sunnis there.

Secondly, its literally a war zone there. While its not beneath US Special Forces to eliminate specific personalities in targetted attacks (for whatever reason), there can be any number of people who want a cleric (sunni or shia) dead. Unless you guys seriously believe that Iraqi police (whatever there is) will investigate the murders to get to the bottom of it, you may as well offer fatiha for the dead and move on.

25

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Sadiqaan: *

No, since wining a war against America is not a realistic possibility and only subjects Iraqis to more death and destruction from both sides. Waging an unwinnable Jihad is not in the interest of Muslims, even according to the Islam you follow. Correct me if I am wrong.
[/QUOTE]

so if a big wrestler say like the rock came knocking on your door and demanded to kill your family, you would say its not in your "interest" to resist and would just simply say ok dude come kill us all with out any resistance?
sufis sicken me

26

One phrase - zionist agents

27

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Faisal: *
Guys, lets put the focus back on the topic of this thread... which was killing of sunni clerics in Iraq.

For one, there is really no love lost between sunnis and shias, anywhere, let alone Iraq, where a minority sunnis had ruled the whole country through Baath party for the last many years. Obviously shias hate sunnis there.
[/QUOTE]

That is incorrect the sunnis and shia do not hate each other. The Amerikkkans and British would love for there to be a civil war between shia and sunni this way they can divide Iraq under ethnic lines which is typical Colonial policy divide and rule.

The muslims of Iraq totally reject the Amerikkkan occupation sunni and shia both. Unfortunatly you have certain puppets allawi, Sistani who think amerikkka will give them certain power and benefit from this occupation and these fools who remain silent to the slaughter are the enemies along with the amerikkans!

28

^^
It's getting darn hard to keep up with you aKKK47. Wasn't Sistani one of your heroes a couple months ago when he "stood up" against the US? Now, he is a puppet because he is seemingly standing up for Iraq. FLIP FLOP. FLIP FLOP.

29

we never said

[QUOTE]
Wasn't Sistani one of your heroes a couple months ago when he "stood up" against the US? Now, he is a puppet because he is seemingly standing up for Iraq
[/QUOTE]

everybody is havin some support from families and relatives who call them heros coz they benefit from them but that doesnt mean muslims will call them heros as well when they know they are not rulin by Islam. same is the case with saddam who massacered muslims but still some people support him....why coz there is someone who works for america and britain and is livin among muslims to create a kind of drama and ppl. show these kind of stuff on western media to dilute Muslim Minds.

30

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by myvoice: *
^^
It's getting darn hard to keep up with you aKKK47. Wasn't Sistani one of your heroes a couple months ago when he "stood up" against the US? Now, he is a puppet because he is seemingly standing up for Iraq. FLIP FLOP. FLIP FLOP.
[/QUOTE]

I can see you smoking too much crack again! If its too hard to keep up then stop smoking that drug and maybe your blurred vision will clear up also!