What? Apart from provide them with cheap labour and doing the jobs they don't want to do themselves - which are all of them? Well I suppose not really...
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*Originally posted by MehnazQ: *
I wonder, so many Pakistanis are incredibly passionate about the whole Palestinian issue and even Iraq .... and rightly so. Why is there less of an outcry when it comes to places like Sudan? Is it racism on our part? Would Pakistanis care more if it were the other way round, meaning, if it were black Muslims killing and raping the Arabs?
Anyway, I agree with you Xtreme.
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Here is the reason.
We Muslims traditionally tend to close our eyes when there is a Muslim killing a Muslim. But when a non-muslims kills amuslim then whole Ummah goes berserk thinking that it is attack on Islam. "Islam Kahtre me hai" .
History is full of examples.. There is virtually no-reaction when
- Saddam Hussein kills Muslims.
- Arab kills other muslims in Sudan.
- Iranian kills demonstrators in Iran.
- Pakistani Killed thousand of Bangladeshis.
Whole ummah would have gone crazy if these were done by some Jews,chrisitian or Hindu.
Sad but true. This hypocracy is one of biggest problem of Ummah.
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*Originally posted by shawaiz: *
And BTW, have we ever done something good for the Arabs, instead of sheding crocodile tears for Palestinians?
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yes we have.
and even if we go by your theory that we did not, and just cried crocodile tears, thats still more than what has bene seen there.
how many times were there pro-kashmiri demonstrations in all arab countries combined compared to pro-iraqi ppl or pro-palestinan ppl demonstrations in just karachi for starters in the last decade.
^Forget the arab countries. There has never been a pro-kashmiri demonstration in Afghanistan or in Iran either, our two neighbouring countries. It simply shows the failure of the governments of Pakistan to internationalize this issue.
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*Originally posted by shawaiz: *
^Forget the arab countries. There has never been a pro-kashmiri demonstration in Afghanistan or in Iran either, our two neighbouring countries. It simply shows the failure of the governments of Pakistan to internationalize this issue.
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No..It just shows no-one give a didly-squad to you and You better start doing the same.
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"Sheikh , Apni Apni Dekh."**
^Who is denying the fact that every nation gives precedence to its own political interests. But cursing other nations, and making them responsible for the matters to which we can blame only our own politicians, doesn't make any sense to me.
:k: Very insightful.
Who is cursing other nations? I’m merely asking why so many Muslim nations are silent. Speaking out against atrocities, whether internally within your own country or those happening in another country is not a crime. In fact, others staying silent is what has given the janjaweed the greenlight to act the way have been towards the blacks.
Anyway, fair_and_balance has made some very good points. :k:
It is fair_&_balance 
As I said earlier the muslim countires don’t give two hoots to what is happening to a minority in Sudan because those muslims are not being butchered by Kafirs. The rest of my post was not directed at you.
Regards
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*Originally posted by shawaiz: *
As I said earlier the muslim countires don't give two hoots to what is happening to a minority in Sudan because those muslims are not being butchered by Kafirs.
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Thats the point.It is bad and it is hypocritical.
Why is Pakistan foriegn service always on the wrong side of the issue? First it is supporting occupying powers in Iraq through it's envoy, and now calling for political situation in Sudan. First time I have heard of a political situation for genocide.
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*Originally posted by Sadiqaan: *
Why is Pakistan foriegn service always on the wrong side of the issue? First it is supporting occupying powers in Iraq through it's envoy, and now calling for political situation in Sudan. First time I have heard of a political situation for genocide.
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you mean "Solution" not "Situation"
I just read this and it’s so incredibly sad. I’m only posting it here so that more people become aware of the situation in Sudan.
**Sudan’s cruel and slow starvation
I’m sitting in the dark on the edge of a camp for displaced people in Darfur. I can hear the loud, persistent crying of one child rising above the murmur of the camp as the people settle down for the night.**
Tonight the stars are out - that means no rain. Last night was not like this at all.
You can see it coming in the afternoons. The sky begins to darken and the horizon goes an ominous, brown shade of yellow.
Then the wind starts and the dust of the Sahara desert whips up, blasting whirling sands in all directions. The people start to run in their long rags, heads bowed against the wind.
**Lack of shelter **
Then, the heavens simply open, the wind ferociously hurls drenching curtains of water at everything around.
Mothers with their children, whose faces are twisted up in misery, squat grasping the sides of their makeshift shelters - which do almost nothing to keep them dry.
The torn plastic bags that make up the walls of their twig shelters flap madly in the wind. The ground turns into a mire of mud.
My TV crew and I run for our shelter 15m (50ft) away. All night, the rain pounds against our ceiling. I wake up at 0300 - it is still going on.
The people on the other side of our wall are still sitting, bracing themselves against the wind and rain, where they were at dusk. This is what it is like most nights for them.
Waste
In the morning we wake up to hear the children crying. In the makeshift hospital here, set up by foreign aid workers, it is so crowded with the sick that some are sleeping on the floors.
Among the stench and flies, the children lie wasted, staring into space. Tiny human beings, who were born into the madness of man’s inhumanity to man, into the madness of a spate of killing that has left many of their fathers, brothers, grandparents and uncles dead.
And now, they face starvation which is cruel and slow. Most of the children are too far gone to eat. Some have the peeling skin and lesions that come with advanced starvation - their skin is wrinkled, loose around their bones. The mothers sit by powerless.
We spent two weeks in Darfur, driving through eerie, burnt-out villages, empty of people.
We travelled to Mornay camp, where we were a month ago. On arriving back, we went to the medical tent. It was strangely quiet inside.
Four people were sitting in a circle. A mother was looking down and sobbing silently, rubbing her hands on her face. I realised I knew her. Then it slowly came to me what was going on. Her daughter Nadia, whom we had spent two days with in this tent a month ago, was dying.
The mother, Juma, was saying an awful goodbye.
We moved away in their private moment. Ten minutes later Nadia was dead.
The men took her body away to prepare for the burial. Then they emerged at the far end of the graveyard, carrying her tiny body in their hands. They said their prayers and laid her body in the earth.
Juma, her mother, sat on the ground. She wasn’t crying any more.
**Crying to the desert **
After the funeral I went to pay my respects. Juma had two older women next to her who, perhaps through custom, were telling her to hold her emotions in.
But when she saw me, perhaps remembering the filming we did with Nadia last month, she started screaming “Nadia, Nadia, Nadia”.
She fell on me, screaming, she kept screaming. She kept repeating her daughter’s name. Then the older women started screaming too.
When Juma left the graveyard I saw her walking away on her own, sobbing and crying her child’s name out into the breeze of the vast desert, into the nothingness of the camp.
Donkeys, half starved themselves, moved around slowly. Refugees continued collecting water and fixing their huts. This happens here every day.
Darfur is in a nightmare that is alive here today and perhaps somewhere else tomorrow. Racial and tribal tensions, and regional disquiet, have erupted into a war where the civilians are being punished, killed and abused.
We are adults, this is the world we live in and accept. The world we have created for ourselves.
Will these things still happen in Africa a century from now? Will it ever change? Why are massacres of civilians allowed to happen in Sudan? Why has no-one even counted the dead?
Money is needed desperately now to save lives. But it has gone this far in Darfur, because no-one really noticed or did anything to stop it. Nadia did not have to die at all.
**Darfur crisis: How to help
Global aid organisations have launched urgent appeals for donations to help people fleeing from fighting between rebel groups and government militias in western Sudan.**
Aid agencies believe over one million people have been forced to flee thier homes.
Many are camped along the border with Chad, where food and water are in short supply and they are still vulnerable to attacks.
The area is remote and the rainy season has begun, making transportation difficult.
The Disasters Emergency Committee - www.dec.org.uk - is an umbrella group of UK aid organisations who are working to provide shelter, clean water and sanitation as well as food to refugees.
The United Nations World Food Programme - www.wfp.org - is seeking $130 million to feed refugees in the area.
“The situation in Darfur is becoming more critical every day; the worst is still to come,” said WFP Country Director for Sudan, Ramiro Lopes da Silva in a statement.
Medecins Sans Frontieres - www.msf.org - is working to combat malaria and malnutrition in west Darfur.
Oxfam - www.oxfam.org.uk - is providing clean water supplies and sanitation to the refugee camps where one Oxfam worker described “80 families living together in one compound without any shelter and only one latrine.”
Islamic Relief - www.islamic-relief.com - has also launched an appeal and food has already been distributed to around 18,000 people.
The United Nations Childens Fund, Unicef - www.unicef.org - is seeking to vaccinate children against disease in the refugee camps. It has appealed for $46m.
Save the Children - www.savethechildren.org - has already distributed food to 250,000 people in the area.
Anti-poverty organisation Care International - www.care.org - is working in Chad to help alleviate conditions for refugees who have crossed the border as well as those in Darfur.
Cafod, the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development - www.cafod.org.uk/sudanappeal - is working with partners in Southern Darfur to provide clean water, shelter, supplementary feeding in camps for the displaced.
UK residents can donate via the British Red Cross - www.redcross.org.uk - who have launched an appeal for food and blankets for the region.
Medair - www.medair.org/en_portal/index.php- is providing treatment kits for malaria, cholera, and dysentery.
The UN High Commission for Refugees - www.unhcr.ch/donate/redirect.html - is helping to relocate refugees on the border with Chad.
World Vision - www.worldvision.org.uk - has also launched an appeal and is providing shelter material, water containers, purification tablets, mosquito nets, cooking utensils and blankets as well as distribute food.
Christian Aid - www.christianaid.org.uk - is working to provide supplementary food rations for under-fives, educational services, shelter material, mosquito nets, blankets, kitchen utensils, and the distribution of seeds and tools to 500,000 people in southern and western Darfur.
Christian charity Tearfund - www.tearfund.org - is working to provide emergency feeding, health and sanitation services to refugees in six camps in Darfur. You can donate to all the campaigns via their websites.