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Agreed.

Most of these are in mid 30’s .. and desperately looking to get laid down or wanted to settled down and have family. but time run’s out for them.. aaah. .poor women :teary2:

You reap what you sow :cheegum:

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You must realise that I am not saying career-women make inferior house-wives. I don’t believe in that kind of flawed thinking. Also, the OP is incorrect in assuming success means a career. CM rightly pointed it out in his response.

A relevant study that some might be interested - Feminist Myths and Magic Medicine. The author is a very esteemed Psychologist and celebrity in her own right; Catherine Hakim. This particular report talks about various Feminist Myths and debunks them. Also there’s plenty of news articles on this topic, we had a thread a few weeks ago too IIRC. Most women prefer a balance but given a choice they would opt to stay at home.

Personally I am all for gender equality but I do believe in gender roles to a certain extent(Once a couple has children). I never said I was against career-women. Just the definition of success. I totally admire women who do get out there and do their thing. No one is calling it a black and white issue. A woman can be a successful either way.

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I do not understand why does it have to be a choice for women: to either choose a successful life or to get married and the same doesn't apply to the man?! If a man works it's understood, if a woman works its her priority...

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God made it that way.

three reason i can came up with:

getting old mean, .. wrinkles ..and other stuff - not alot of guys prefer that :cheegum:

she get too much mature.. :smack:

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Successful women and career women are two different things. And not fair to say that a career was a priority - if I can relate it back to myself - I'd say it was circumstance.

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wow, i agree with you for once. but why do women have to pick the 3 on your list whereas, men are able to do all. beacause people dont like "career women". women have to fight for it. and because oh God forbid they want a career too, they become too old for all you young men.

also, if a guy doesnt get married till 45...he still gets a 22 yr old somewhere in this world. that is why the definitions differ. so the problem is with our double standard not what the two definitions are.

who says women who like a career and being independent don't like making a family? it's just that they are rarely allowed to have both the way they want.

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Coz she was wife of Prophet (PBUH).

i have no idea why people bring examples of Prophet (PBUH) wife's & his companions - people you can't have comparison with them. They bar is so high you can't reach it. So back to normal world.

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i think the issue is of happiness and not of gender equality, a career makes a woman a happy woman, b/c there are many housewives that suffer from depression. sometimes a woman does need something of her own to be happy and proud of. like hobbies, an online business, etc

kids and husband are of course a great source of happiness for a woman but for both men and women there needs to be something that gives them an opportunity to enrich themselves. a man gets to go to work and interact with different people every day and improve his skills, if a stay at home mom had a way of enriching herself and keeping herself happy that is also success.

it’s these assumptions that both men and women have about a career woman and stay at home women being and thinking in a certain way that’s wrong.

CM made a pretty big assumption by saying that career women look down on stay at home moms which is such a generalization. and the other flaw in his reasoning was that he assumed that a career woman didn’t see family/kids as a source of happiness. wrong and a major generalization.

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You said God made it that way, that's why I brought in an example from religion. And how can we not bring them in, aren't we suppose to look up to them as our ideals. No one is making comparisons.

Oh and I cleared out my post after i realized it wasn't worth it, after reading this:

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The surveys apparently say that women feel they would be happiest with a mixture of housewife/career-woman or that given a choice, they would be happier staying at home. There are many women suffering from depression but that is not exclusive to either category of women.

Agreed. That is definitely true. We all need something to do; some people are happy sitting at home and reading books while others need to be in a board room. So yeah, whatever your definition of happiness is, you should go for it.

It is the OP that made the assumption, not CM. He laid out the assumptions of the poster and for a large majority of the general public. People do assume that once those factors are fulfilled, a man or woman is unsuccessful or not. Also I don't think he implied that they don't see family/kids as a source of happiness. He is talking priorities. To go for or against our innate gender roles, we must be passionate about something and that is his POV. I agree.

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There was another study done in the UK that showed married women were happiest working part-time as they had the best of both worlds..

(Oviously there’s a lot of contradicting reseach so I’m guessing the views aren’t as clear cut as the ‘anti women working’ or ‘anti housewives’ ppl would like us to believe).

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:smack:…are we going to get truckloads of ‘authentic’ sources and ‘citations’ now??

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^Not allowed to post research unless it agrees with you lol

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I actually linked to the research done by Catherine Hakim and the reports in the Guardian and Telegraph and what not. What they’re talking about is a preference and then a last-choice-scenario. Its not that complicated.

Preference - Balance - Yeah I’d like it if I could work part-time and then spend time with family.
One Choice - Housewife - Yeah I want to quit work and settle down.

P.S. The articles I’ve linked to point to research newer that the link you’ve posted. Trends change. Deal with it.

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awww…you thought i read those?? :smack:

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no all the op was asking was why are all successful women single. which is a generalization and the op's comment that this thread is based on isn't very valid or sensible

but it is not true that a career woman would give her career more priority than her family, i don't know why CM assumed that is what i'm saying, almost every career woman aunt of mine has found a good balance between the two, she's happy in the job she does b/c she feels confident about herself and she is happy with her husband/kids. they are passionate about both. just like men are passionate about their jobs and their families, both take highest priority for women too.

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That drastically within a couple of years?? Are so many women schizophrenic then lol..

People have different opinions. Deal with it..

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That is what CM was trying to say.

Go over the links I’ve posted. How about Daily Mail? That is usually a good enough reference.

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lol at some men’s reply.

Whiteman look what have you started now :smack:

Not in mood of replying, will do tomorrow morning from work :hehe: