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always,in our vedas, it is mentioned the kingdom of Maharaja Bharat on whose name this country is known as Bhaarat is from Hindukush to southern tip of India, also our vedic geography do not corrosponds to any region beyond these mentioned area, the decendent of Bharat were main characters of Mahabharata, Kauravas and Pandavs, so theologically, akhand bharat originates from these sources:)
during the past 3000 years how many rulers have united India?
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Jinnah was intially member of congress and never in its entire history muslim league represnted muslims of all India, more than half of muslims always sided with the congress
i think some muslims were active in congress but majority of Muslim leaders did not trust the Hindu predominance and most of the Muslims remained reluctant to join the Congress Party.
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So as kaur saying Indian history how it started? What made Muslim think this, why Jinah made separate party Muslims, wht happened?
I think the credit of making Muslims of India to demand a separate country goes to policies of Congress than Muslim league :)
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I think the credit of making Muslims of India to demand a separate country goes to policies of Congress than Muslim league :)
i agree congress was thinking about hindus, this made muslims realize tht they cant live them. n then jinnah made all muslim league.
so lets discuss the founders of all muslim leagues, of course it was jinnah n who else was there with him
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i agree congress was thinking about hindus, this made muslims realize tht they cant live them. n then jinnah made all muslim league.
so lets discuss the founders of all muslim leagues, of course it was jinnah n who else was there with him
Muslim League was made when Mr Jinah was in Congress. He joined it later. You are right that people started realising Congress's Anti-Muslim attitude from time to time, but we can't ignore the fact that Congress had many big Muslim leaders till end.
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during the past 3000 years how many rulers have united India?
Lets assume,none, but it still it doesn't take out the concept of bharatvarsh from the hindu intelligensia which always meant from hindukush to Kishkindha:)
i think some muslims were active in congress but majority of Muslim leaders did not trust the Hindu predominance and most of the Muslims remained reluctant to join the Congress Party.
During simla conference Jinnah claimed Muslim League is sole representative of muslims, and had no reply of Maulana Azad's cabinet mission plan and Congress representative included people from all religion while jinnah appointed Jadunath Sarkar as a leader of Muslim league:)
that is what is best thing about muslims always were, they hardly beleived in secularism, but suspected hindu's nationalism, India is secular country because it is hindu majority, minorities like sikhs and muslims can never give secular socialist democratic republic:)
I think the credit of making Muslims of India to demand a separate country goes to policies of Congress than Muslim league :)
What policies precisely, Muslim league was always party of elite, it was always supported by Landlords but poor class muslims always supported Congress, Jinnah wasn't even able to form government in KP because of Khan Brother's congress favouring Khudai Khidmatgars:)
i agree congress was thinking about hindus, this made muslims realize tht they cant live them. n then jinnah made all muslim league.
so lets discuss the founders of all muslim leagues, of course it was jinnah n who else was there with him
Congress always wanted united India, they even gave finance department to Liaqat Ali Khan, one cannot have a peon in another ministry without permission of finance minstry, if possible, people here can read "India wins freedom" by maulana abul kalam azad
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Muslim League was made when Mr Jinah was in Congress. He joined it later. You are right that people started realising Congress's Anti-Muslim attitude from time to time, but we can't ignore the fact that Congress had many big Muslim leaders till end.
so who came up wth the idea of muslim league?
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so who came up wth the idea of muslim league?
Sir Agha Khan III suggested the name All India Muslim League and it was made by people associated with AligaRh University. The main reason was division of Bengal in 1905.
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When we say that Pakistan was created for the muslims of the subcontinent, did it also include muslims of South India ? How was the support for formation of pakistan from muslims of the south like Hyderabad, Mysore, Kerala, Tamil Nadu ? Were there migrants from this region ? If so what % of migrant population. I know that Kerala with its huge muslim population still has a muslim League but I am not sure if it the offshoot of the pre-independent muslim League.
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When we say that Pakistan was created for the muslims of the subcontinent, did it also include muslims of South India ? How was the support for formation of pakistan from muslims of the south like Hyderabad, Mysore, Kerala, Tamil Nadu ? Were there migrants from this region ? If so what % of migrant population. I know that Kerala with its huge muslim population still has a muslim League but I am not sure if it the offshoot of the pre-independent muslim League.
Migration was not the part of Pakistan's demand. Pakistan was name of majority Muslim areas.
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But many people believe that accepting Pakistan in the shape ( as it was in 1947) was a compromise. :hmmm:
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yes, it was compromise. pakistan might be bigger than the one we got back in 1947.
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yes, it was compromise. pakistan might be bigger than the one we got back in 1947.
The question not of big... It should have been strong geographically and theologically.
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The question not of big... It should have been strong geographically and theologically.
leave the question of compromise, did we handle what we got? no, we actually broke it (linguistically)
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Awesome thread :k:
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Lets assume,none, but it still it doesn't take out the concept of bharatvarsh from the hindu intelligensia which always meant from hindukush to Kishkindha:)
During simla conference Jinnah claimed Muslim League is sole representative of muslims, and had no reply of Maulana Azad's cabinet mission plan and Congress representative included people from all religion while jinnah appointed Jadunath Sarkar as a leader of Muslim league:)
that is what is best thing about muslims always were, they hardly beleived in secularism, but suspected hindu's nationalism, India is secular country because it is hindu majority, minorities like sikhs and muslims can never give secular socialist democratic republic
What policies precisely, Muslim league was always party of elite, it was always supported by Landlords but poor class muslims always supported Congress, Jinnah wasn't even able to form government in KP because of Khan Brother's congress favouring Khudai Khidmatgars:)
Congress always wanted united India, they even gave finance department to Liaqat Ali Khan, one cannot have a peon in another ministry without permission of finance minstry, if possible, people here can read "India wins freedom" by maulana abul kalam azad
Exactly as muqawee said it was partition of bengal tht lead to establishment of Muslim league.
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