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Jabir radhiyAllahu 'anhu

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 427:

Narrated Jabir:

We were digging (the trench) on the day of (Al-Khandaq ( i.e. Trench )) and we came across a big solid rock. We went to the Prophet and said, "Here is a rock appearing across the trench." He said, "I am coming down." Then he got up, and a stone was tied to his belly for we had not eaten anything for three days. So the Prophet took the spade and struck the big solid rock and it became like sand. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Allow me to go home." (When the Prophet allowed me) I said to my wife, "I saw the Prophet in a state that I cannot treat lightly. Have you got something (for him to eat?" She replied, "I have barley and a she goat." So I slaughtered the she-kid and she ground the barley; then we put the meat in the earthenware cooking pot. Then I came to the Prophet when the dough had become soft and fermented and (the meat in) the pot over the stone trivet had nearly been well-cooked, and said, "I have got a little food prepared, so get up O Allah's Apostle, you and one or two men along with you (for the food)." The Prophet asked, "How much is that food?" I told him about it. He said, "It is abundant and good. Tell your wife not to remove the earthenware pot from the fire and not to take out any bread from the oven till I reach there." Then he said (to all his companions), "Get up." So the Muhajirn (i.e. Emigrants) and the Ansar got up. When I came to my wife, I said, "Allah's Mercy be upon you! The Prophet came along with the Muhajirin and the Ansar and those who were present with them." She said, "Did the Prophet ask you (how much food you had)?" I replied, "Yes." Then the Prophet said, "Enter and do not throng." The Prophet started cutting the bread (into pieces) and put the cooked meat over it. He covered the earthenware pot and the oven whenever he took something out of them. He would give the food to his companions and take the meat out of the pot. He went on cutting the bread and scooping the meat (for his companions) till they all ate their fill, and even then, some food remained. Then the Prophet said (to my wife), "Eat and present to others as the people are struck with hunger."

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The One of the Two (thani-yathnayn)

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 419:

Narrated 'Aisha:

Abu Bakr asked the Prophet to allow him to go out (of Mecca) when he was greatly annoyed (by the infidels). But the Prophet said to him, ''Wait." Abu Bakr said, O Allah's Apostle! Do you hope that you will be allowed (to migrate)?" Allah's Apostle replied, "I hope so." So Abu Bakr waited for him till one day Allah's Apostle came at noon time and addressed him saying "Let whoever is present with you, now leave you." Abu Bakr said, "None is present but my two daughters." The Prophet said, "Have you noticed that I have been allowed to go out (to migrate)?" Abu Bakr said, "O Allah's Apostle, I would like to accompany you." The Prophet said, "You will accompany me." Abu Bakr said, "O Allah's Apostle! I have got two she-camels which I had prepared and kept ready for (our) going out." So he gave one of the two (she-camels) to the Prophet and it was Al-Jad'a . They both rode and proceeded till they reached the Cave at the mountain of Thaur where they hid themselves. Amir bin Fuhaira was the slave of 'Abdullah bin Al-Tufail bin Sakhbara 'Aisha's brother from her mother's side. Abu Bakr had a milch she-camel. Amir used to go with it (i.e. the milch she-camel) in the afternoon and come back to them before noon by setting out towards them in the early morning when it was still dark and then he would take it to the pasture so that none of the shepherds would be aware of his job. When the Prophet (and Abu Bakr) went away (from the Cave), he (i.e. 'Amir) too went along with them and they both used to make him ride at the back of their camels in turns till they reached Medina. 'Amir bin Fuhaira was martyred on the day of Bir Ma'una.
Narrated 'Urwa: When those (Muslims) at Bir Ma'una were martyred and 'Amr bin Umaiya Ad-Damri was taken prisoner, 'Amir bin At-Tufail, pointing at a killed person, asked Amr, "Who is this?" 'Amr bin Umaiya said to him, "He is 'Amir bin Fuhaira." 'Amir bin At-Tufail said, "I saw him lifted to the sky after he was killed till I saw the sky between him and the earth, and then he was brought down upon the earth. Then the news of the killed Muslims reached the Prophet and he announced the news of their death saying, "Your companions (of Bir Ma'una) have been killed, and they have asked their Lord saying, 'O our Lord! Inform our brothers about us as we are pleased with You and You are pleased with us." So Allah informed them (i.e. the Prophet and his companions) about them (i.e. martyrs of Bir Mauna).

On that day, 'Urwa bin Asma bin As-Salt who was one of them, was killed, and Urwa (bin Az-Zubair) was named after 'Urwa bin Asma and Mundhir (bin AzZubair) was named after Mundhir bin 'Amr (who had also been martyred on that day).

Comments

Stories about Hadhrat 'Ali's (radhiyAllahu 'anhu) sleeping in Prophet's (sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam) bed are just lies, spread by the enemies of Islam, as the emigration by the Prophet sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam took place at noon, and only the family of Abu Bakr radhiyAllahu 'anhu knew about this emigration, as is evident by reliable narrations of Bukhari.

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Wahshi radhiyAllahu 'anhu

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 399:

Narrated Jafar bin 'Amr bin Umaiya:

I went out with 'Ubaidullah bin 'Adi Al-Khaiyar. When we reached Hims (i.e. a town in Syria), 'Ubaidullah bin 'Adi said (to me), "Would you like to see Wahshi so that we may ask him about the killing of Hamza?" I replied, "Yes." Wahshi used to live in Hims. We enquired about him and somebody said to us, "He is that in the shade of his palace, as if he were a full water skin." So we went up to him, and when we were at a short distance from him, we greeted him and he greeted us in return. 'Ubaidullah was wearing his turban and Wahshi could not see except his eyes and feet. 'Ubaidullah said, "O Wahshi! Do you know me?" Wahshi looked at him and then said, "No, by Allah! But I know that 'Adi bin Al-Khiyar married a woman called Um Qital, the daughter of Abu Al-Is, and she delivered a boy for him at Mecca, and I looked for a wet nurse for that child. (Once) I carried that child along with his mother and then I handed him over to her, and your feet resemble that child's feet." Then 'Ubaidullah uncovered his face and said (to Wahshi), "Will you tell us (the story of) the killing of Hamza?" Wahshi replied "Yes, Hamza killed Tuaima bin 'Adi bin Al-Khaiyar at Badr (battle) so my master, Jubair bin Mut'im said to me, 'If you kill Hamza in revenge for my uncle, then you will be set free." When the people set out (for the battle of Uhud) in the year of 'Ainain ..'Ainain is a mountain near the mountain of Uhud, and between it and Uhud there is a valley.. I went out with the people for the battle. When the army aligned for the fight, Siba' came out and said, 'Is there any (Muslim) to accept my challenge to a duel?' Hamza bin 'Abdul Muttalib came out and said, 'O Siba'. O Ibn Um Anmar, the one who circumcises other ladies! Do you challenge Allah and His Apostle?' Then Hamza attacked and killed him, causing him to be non-extant like the bygone yesterday. I hid myself under a rock, and when he (i.e. Hamza) came near me, I threw my spear at him, driving it into his umbilicus so that it came out through his buttocks, causing him to die. When all the people returned to Mecca, I too returned with them. I stayed in (Mecca) till Islam spread in it (i.e. Mecca). Then I left for Taif, and when the people (of Taif) sent their messengers to Allah's Apostle, I was told that the Prophet did not harm the messengers; So I too went out with them till I reached Allah's Apostle. When he saw me, he said, 'Are you Wahshi?' I said, 'Yes.' He said, 'Was it you who killed Hamza?' I replied, 'What happened is what you have been told of.' He said, 'Can you hide your face from me?' So I went out when Allah's Apostle died, and Musailamah Al-Kadhdhab appeared (claiming to be a prophet). I said, 'I will go out to Musailamah so that I may kill him, and make amends for killing Hamza. So I went out with the people (to fight Musailamah and his followers) and then famous events took place concerning that battle. Suddenly I saw a man (i.e. Musailamah) standing near a gap in a wall. He looked like an ash-colored camel and his hair was dishevelled. So I threw my spear at him, driving it into his chest in between his breasts till it passed out through his shoulders, and then an Ansari man attacked him and struck him on the head with a sword. 'Abdullah bin 'Umar said, 'A slave girl on the roof of a house said: Alas! The chief of the believers (i.e. Musailamah) has been killed by a black slave."

Comments

The allegation munafiqeen put on Saiyidah Hind radhiyAllahu 'anhu (mother of Ameer Mu'awiyah) of having Saiyidna Hamzah radhiyAllahu 'anhu killed is just a lie as part of enmity towards the family of Saiyidina Mu'awiyah radhiyAllahu 'anhu.

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Was it Thulfiqar (Zulfiqar)?

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 333:

Narrated 'Urwa:

Az-Zubair said, "I met Ubaida bin Said bin Al-As on the day (of the battle) of Badr and he was covered with armor; so much that only his eyes were visible. He was surnamed Abu Dhat-al-Karish. He said (proudly), 'I am Abu-al-Karish.' I attacked him with the spear and pierced his eye and he died. I put my foot over his body to pull (that spear) out, but even then I had to use a great force to take it out as its both ends were bent." 'Urwa said, "Later on Allah's Apostle asked Az-Zubair for the spear and he gave it to him. When Allah's Apostle died, Az-Zubair took it back. After that Abu Bakr demanded it and he gave it to him, and when Abu Bakr died, Az-Zubair took it back. 'Umar then demanded it from him and he gave it to him. When 'Umar died, Az-Zubair took it back, and then 'Uthman demanded it from him and he gave it to him. When 'Uthman was martyred, the spear remained with Ali's offspring. Then 'Abdullah bin Az-Zubair demanded it back, and it remained with him till he was martyred.

Comments

How fortunate Saiyidina Zubayr bin Al'awam was whose spear was asked for by Rasoolullah sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam himself.

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KHAYBER

This section of the thread is reserved for researching for the role of Saiyidina 'Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu in Khayber.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 508:

Narrated Suwaid bin An-Numan:

I went out in the company of the Prophet in the year of Khaibar, and when we reached As Sahba' which is the lower part of Khaibar, the Prophet offered the Asr prayer and then asked the people to collect the journey food. Nothing was brought but Sawiq which the Prophet ordered to be moistened with water, and then he ate it and we also ate it. Then he got up to offer the Maghrib prayer. He washed his mouth, and we too washed our mouths, and then he offered the prayer without repeating his abulution.

Comments

Rasoolullah sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam led the Battle of Khaiber (obviously) and not 'Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 509:

Narrated Salama bin Al-Akwa:

We went out to Khaibar in the company of the Prophet. While we were proceeding at night, a man from the group said to 'Amir, "O 'Amir! Won't you let us hear your poetry?" 'Amir was a poet, so he got down and started reciting for the people poetry that kept pace with the camels' footsteps, saying:-- "O Allah! Without You we Would not have been guided On the right path Neither would be have given In charity, nor would We have prayed. So please forgive us, what we have committed (i.e. our defects); let all of us Be sacrificed for Your Cause And send Sakina (i.e. calmness) Upon us to make our feet firm When we meet our enemy, and If they will call us towards An unjust thing, We will refuse. The infidels have made a hue and Cry to ask others' help Against us." The Prophet on that, asked, "Who is that (camel) driver (reciting poetry)?" The people said, "He is 'Amir bin Al-Akwa'."

Then the Prophet said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on him." A man amongst the people said, "O Allah's Prophet! has (martyrdom) been granted to him. Would that you let us enjoy his company longer." Then we reached and besieged Khaibar till we were afflicted with severe hunger. Then Allah helped the Muslims conquer it (i.e. Khaibar). In the evening of the day of the conquest of the city, the Muslims made huge fires. The Prophet said, "What are these fires? For cooking what, are you making the fire?" The people replied, "(For cooking) meat." He asked, "What kind of meat?" They (i.e. people) said, "The meat of donkeys." The Prophet said, "Throw away the meat and break the pots!" Some man said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we throw away the meat and wash the pots instead?" He said, "(Yes, you can do) that too." So when the army files were arranged in rows (for the clash), 'Amir's sword was short and he aimed at the leg of a Jew to strike it, but the sharp blade of the sword returned to him and injured his own knee, and that caused him to die. When they returned from the battle, Allah's Apostle saw me (in a sad mood). He took my hand and said, "What is bothering you?" I replied, "Let my father and mother be sacrificed for you! The people say that the deeds of 'Amir are lost." The Prophet said, "Whoever says so, is mistaken, for 'Amir has got a double reward." The Prophet raised two fingers and added, "He (i.e. Amir) was a persevering struggler in the Cause of Allah and there are few 'Arabs who achieved the like of (good deeds) 'Amir had done."

Comments

There is no mention of Saiyidina 'Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu in this narration.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 510:

Narrated Anas:

Allah's Apostle reached Khaibar at night and it was his habit that, whenever he reached the enemy at night, he will not attack them till it was morning. When it was morning, the Jews came out with their spades and baskets, and when they saw him(i.e. the Prophet ), they said, "Muhammad! By Allah! Muhammad and his army!" The Prophet said, "Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned."

Narrated Anas bin Malik: We reached Khaibar early in the morning and the inhabitants of Khaibar came out carrying their spades, and when they saw the Prophet they said, "Muhammad! By Allah! Muhammad and his army!" The Prophet said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned." We then got the meat of donkeys (and intended to eat it), but an announcement was made by the announcer of the Prophet, "Allah and His Apostle forbid you to eat the meat of donkeys as it is an impure thing."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 512:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned." Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet . The Prophet made her manumission as her 'Mahr'.

Comments

Once again, no mention of 'Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 517:

Narrated Yazid bin Abi Ubaid:

I saw the trace of a wound in Salama's leg. I said to him, "O Abu Muslim! What is this wound?" He said, "This was inflicted on me on the day of Khaibar and the people said, 'Salama has been wounded.' Then I went to the Prophet and he puffed his saliva in it (i.e. the wound) thrice., and since then I have not had any pain in it till this hour."

Comments

Not 'Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 520:

Narrated Salama:

Ali remained behind the Prophet during the Ghazwa of Khaibar as he was suffering from eye trouble. He then said, "(How can) I remain behind the Prophet ," and followed him. So when he slept on the night of the conquest of Khaibar, the Prophet said, "I will give the flag tomorrow, or tomorrow the flag will be taken by a man who is loved by Allah and His Apostle , and (Khaibar) will be conquered through him, (with Allah's help)" While every one of us was hopeful to have the flag, it was said, "Here is 'Ali" and the Prophet gave him the flag and Khaibar was conquered through him (with Allah's Help).

Comments

If it were Abu Bakr, 'Umar or 'Uthman radhiyAllahu 'anhum who remained behind, shias would make up lots of stories, claiming they were cowards and blah blah blah.
Moreover if 'Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu was the Conqueror of Khaiber then how he remained behind the Army.
Off course Rasoolullah sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam granted the small Flag (raayah and not the 'alam which is the Big Flag) to 'Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu which is his virtue, but we must keep in mind that he wasn't appointed as the Commander of Muslim Army, but commander of one of the batallions which means he was one of other commanders.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 521:

Narrated Sahl bin Sad:

On the day of Khaibar, Allah's Apostle said, "Tomorrow I will give this flag to a man through whose hands Allah will give us victory. He loves Allah and His Apostle, and he is loved by Allah and His Apostle." The people remained that night, wondering as to who would be given it. In the morning the people went to Allah's Apostle and everyone of them was hopeful to receive it (i.e. the flag). The Prophet said, "Where is Ali bin Abi Talib?" It was said, "He is suffering from eye trouble O Allah's Apostle." He said, "Send for him." 'Ali was brought and Allah's Apostle spat in his eye and invoked good upon him. So 'Ali was cured as if he never had any trouble. Then the Prophet gave him the flag. 'Ali said "O Allah's Apostle! I will fight with them till they become like us." Allah's Apostle said, "Proceed and do not hurry. When you enter their territory, call them to embrace Islam and inform them of Allah's Rights which they should observe, for by Allah, even if a single man is led on the right path (of Islam) by Allah through you, then that will be better for you than the nice red camels.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

We arrived at Khaibar, and when Allah helped His Apostle to open the fort, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtaq whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself, and set out with her, and when we reached a place called Sidd-as-Sahba,' Safiya became clean from her menses then Allah's Apostle married her. Hais (i.e. an 'Arabian dish) was prepared on a small leather mat. Then the Prophet said to me, "I invite the people around you." So that was the marriage banquet of the Prophet and Safiya. Then we proceeded towards Medina, and I saw the Prophet, making for her a kind of cushion with his cloak behind him (on his camel). He then sat beside his camel and put his knee for Safiya to put her foot on, in order to ride (on the camel).

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 523:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 525:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mughaffal:

While we were besieging Khaibar, a person threw a leather container containing some fat and I ran to take it. Suddenly I looked behind, and behold! The Prophet was there. So I felt shy (to take it then).

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 540:

Narrated Abu Musa:

We came upon the Prophet after he had conquered Khaibar. He then gave us a share (from the booty), but apart from us he did not give to anybody else who did not attend the Conquest.

Comments

Off course, Rasoolullah sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam is the Conqueror of Khaiber, but shias do Tabarra upon our Prophet by claiming that Imam 'Ali was the Conqeror of Khaiber.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 549:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri and Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle appointed a man as the ruler of Khaibar who later brought some Janib (i.e. dates of good quality) to the Prophet. On that, Allah's Apostle said (to him). "Are all the dates of Khaibar like this?" He said, "No, by Allah, O Allah's Apostle! But we take one Sa of these (dates of good quality) for two or three Sa's of other dates (of inferior quality)." On that, Allah's Apostle said, "Do not do so, but first sell the inferior quality dates for money and then with that money, buy Janib." Abu Said and Abu Huraira said, "The Prophet made the brother of Bani Adi from the Ansar as the ruler of Khaibar.

Comments

The Ruler of Khaiber was an Ansari Sahabi, as appointed by Rasoolullah sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 550:

Narrated 'Abdullah:

The Prophet gave (the land of) Khaibar to the Jews (of Khaibar) on condition that they would work on it and cultivate it and they would have half of its yield.

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Your Neo-Umayyad propoganda to create disunity amongst the blessed companions of the Prophet(PBUH) is not going to work
Ali(as) held Zubair(ra) in great esteem even after the events of Jamal
when Ibn Jurmuz the killer of Zubair(ra) came to him he said "Announce hellfire to the murderer of the son of Safiyyah"

You add "Allah be pleased with her" next to Hind's name the vixen who mutilated the body of the first Commander-in-chief of Islam Hamza(ra) ate his liver

This is your old tactic AbuSufyan tried that at the Saqifa when he offered Ali(as) his troops to fight against other muslims but whatever the personal differences between the early companions were they were united when it came to facing enemies like bani ummayyah

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The Evidence that Saiyidah Hind bint 'Atbah **radhiyAllahu 'anha has nothing to do with the Martyrdom of Saiyidina Hamzah bin 'Abdul Muttalib **radhiyAllahu 'anhu

Since the sect of Abdullah ibn Saba (Yahoodi) has a historical Enmity for Ameerul Mu'mineen Mu'awiyah radhiyAllahu 'anhu, they have slandered all Family members of Saiyidina Mu'awiyah including Abu Sufyan radhiyAllahu 'anhu (his father), Saiyidah Hind bin 'Atbah radhiyAllahu 'anhu (his mother), Yazid bin Mu'awiyah (his son) and the whole of Banu Umaiyah.

As I have mentioned in the hadith about Wahshi radhiyAllahu 'anhu (which is a reliable hadith from Bukhari) that Rasoolullah sallAllahu alayhe wasallam asked him not to come before his sight, as it would remind him (sallAllahu alayhe wasallam) of his beloved friend, foster brother and uncle. This treatment of Rasoolullah sallAllahu alayhe wasallam towards Wahshi radhiyAllahu 'anhu proves that Saiyidah Hind bint 'Atbah radhiyAllahu 'anha had nothing to do with the martyrdom of Saiyidah Hamzah radhiyAllahu 'anhu.
All stories about her chewing the liver of Saiyidah Hamzah are the fabrication of Majoos which are aimed to attack the House of Saiyidina Mu'awiyah radhiyAllahu 'anhu:

The Treatment of Muhammad sallAllahu alayhe wasallam with Saiyidah Hind radhiyAllahu 'anha

At the conquest of Makkah, Rasoolullah sallAllahu alayhe wasallam made the House of Hind radhiyAllahu 'anhu the house of asylum and peace, so before entering Makkah it was proclaimed:

The one who enters the house of Abu Sufyan (radhiyAllahu 'anhu) will be protected.

When Hadhrat Hind radhiyAllahu 'anha embraces Islam and Rasoolullah sallAllahu alayhe wasallam make the women give word that they wouldn't kill their children, Hadhrat Hind radhiyAllahu 'anha says:

Though we brought them up in childhood (and didn't kill them), it was you who killed them after they grew up.

After bai'at (pledge of allegiance), Hadhrat Hind radhiyAllahu 'anhu, in clear and plain words, expresses her feelings:

Ya Rasoolullah (sallAllahu alayhe wasallam), (there was a time when) no one of the people on earth was as humiliated in my eyes as you were (because her father and relatives were killed in Badr), but now there is no one as dear to me of all the people on earth as you are.

Let's read what Rasoolullah sallAllahu alayhe wasallam replied to her:

He (sallAllahu alayhe wasallam) said, 'By the One in whose Hand is my life, I have the same feelings.'

(Sahih Bukhari, volume 1, page 539)

We don't trust stories spread by Liars but just clarifying that Saiyidina 'Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu didn't have any Enmity against Saiyidina Zubayr or Saiyidina Mu'awiyah radhiyAllahu 'anhum, they all shared the same faith unlike you and me.
We, the Muslims, observe silence over the disputes they had with each other, Allah will forgive them all, inshaAllah.

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You add "Allah be pleased with her" next to Hind's name the vixen who mutilated the body of the first Commander-in-chief of Islam Hamza(ra) ate his liver
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According to Quran, it is the sign of disbelief to get enraged when Saiyidina Mu'awiyah or his Mother is mentioned as both of them are the Companions of Muhammadur Rasoolullah sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam.

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This is your old tactic AbuSufyan tried that at the Saqifa when he offered Ali(as) his troops to fight against other muslims but whatever the personal differences between the early companions were they were united when it came to facing enemies like bani ummayyah
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On one occasion Imam Shafi'ee (who was not a Wahabi, lol) said concerning the Shia,** "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Raafidi Shia."**

and on another occasion he said; "Narrate knowledge from everyone you meet except for the Raafidi Shia, because they invent ahaadeeth and adopt them as part of their religion."

(Minhaj as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah)

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"It is clearly understood that all ahadith in which the word "Rafidha " has been used are lies (forged)." - Ibn Tayamiyah
Minhaju 's-sunnah, old ed. vol. 1. p.8

:p

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[quote=Debater]

I agree totally infact I gave you the reference too

:rolleyes:
and about abusufyan’s offer to spread fitna amongst the muslims check it from any historical reference it is a fact

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We don't accept the witness from the sect of the 'Abdullah ibn Saba, be it their hadith or history.

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Re: Soldiers of Allah - the Companions of Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam

If companions( each and everyone either they were mounafiqs, or saleheens) of prophet mohammed(salawat on him), used to be with him, it no way reflects any greatness of them in the eyes of GOD (A) or in the eyes of Prophet Mohammed(pbuh). Because if if it was crditable to be born in those days then it is unjust that GOD (A) has borned us now. And we have not seen prophet Mohammed with our eyes.

In my opinion in my personal capacity.

God has asked prophet Mohammed to be MOUJASAMAEI Ikhlaq
So prophet Mohammed was not allowed to select GOOD ones to bring them close to him and asking the bad ones to go away far from him.

So in his heights of IKHLAQ he used to call the bad, worse and the worst companions closer to him; so to explore all the possibilities to effect them positively, but still all companions could not become the good companions so SORAH e Mounafeqeen revealed.

Do not mix up sora mounafaqeen saying it was for khufars or yahouds. No it was only for those companions who used to claim to be greatly friends but among them some were not.

Sora yahoud is for yahouds and sora kafareen is for koufars.

So to my personal opinion

It was no FAZELAT OF BEING beside or close to prophet Mohammed(SA) otherwise I feel like saying to my NACHEEAZ AQAL mai GOD IS Naouzobilla not JUST.

He had not left prophet Mohammed alive for all of us to see and become JANATEA.

I want your critisim without using bad language. So that if I am mistaken some where should correct myself. Thanks

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By the way history is relative. No one can quote history to be written as absolute. Facts have to be taken from either companions of Prophet or his family members.
Shia take them from family members and sunni take them from ashabs. Let the both sects feel comfortable the way the feel. None of us can claim to be GOD almighty.

So much so that shias take the date of death of prophet mohammed from fatima binte Mohammed (THE prophet(SA)) as 17th of Rabulawal

Also shia take the date of death of prophet mohammed as 28th of Rajabul mujarab

Where as sunnis take these dates from his companions and according to them the date of death and date of Birth of prophet mohammed(SA) was 12th of Rabul awal.

Please note these are the dates associated to a prophet due to which shias and sunnis are muslims.

Why shall we further our discussions on the topics that have differences among the two sects.

Try to discuss the similarities and be thankful to GOD

We muslims of the two main streams have a very big platform of similarites

1) We believe GOD is one
2) We believe in four revealled books
3) we believe in the day of judgement
4) We believe in 124,000 prophets
Then we believe in that we should offer
1) prayers five times
2) we fast in the month of Ramazan
3) We are obliged to perform haaj if we can afford
4)and many more similarities

so what if there is difference after the prophet mohammed

A person used to be called muslim if he used to say la ellaha il lal lah mohammed dun rasoul allah during the days of prophet mohammed

HOUSH KAROU AEKA KAROU AE MOUSALMANOO

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Re: Soldiers of Allah - the Companions of Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam

I just can’t fathom a few things about Shiaism…

If Abu Bakr, Usman and Umar :razi2: were hypocrites, backstabbers, destroyers of Islam as the Shia claim, then how was it that the they remained the most closest, most trusted, most obedient, loyal and renowned companions of the Holy Prophet :saw:…

They ate together with the Holy Prophet :saw:, travelled together, spent days and years together and the Holy Prophet :saw: loved their company, but after the demise of the Holy Prophet :saw:, a few centuries later, some guy comes up and says, ‘they were hypocrites’ and Shiaism was born…It’s quite unfathomable…

How come they were allowed to be so close to the Holy Prophet :saw:? Either it must be that the Holy Prophet :saw: (nauzubillah) was weak and he couldn’t do anything about the enemies around him or he feared them or something…

How do the Shias know to claim they were hypocrites?

While the Sunnis revere, respect and honour each and every Ashaba as is their due, why do the Shias single out a few of them to be ridiculed, insulted, libelled, slandered and disgraced? What is their reason…

OK, granted let’s believe for a second that they (nauzubillah) were everything that the Shias claim they were, what good does it do or befits on part of any faith, cult, religion or following to curse and abuse people who died 1,500 years ago?

I mean, if today I curse Abu Lahab (A person whom even the Quran states is accursed), would it do me an ounce of good?

I don’t think so…But evidently, many Shias think by belittling the noble companions of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) they are doing something good…They are doing something great by cursing people who died centuries ago…

Think about it…Does it make sense?

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I just can’t fathom a few things about Shiaism…

no one can say all these terrible things about these three companions but the fact remains that shias believe that it was Ali(as) right to be the leader of the ummah and he was deprived of it by abubakr(ra) there is enough evidence to prove this
if you check history this was not a unanimous decision many muhajirs and most ansars resented it.
some Shias tend to exaggerate their flaws(of the first three caliphs) while sunnis ignore them totally.IMO both are wrong their actions should be objectively analysed.
Whatever one might say against them they were early converts and rendered numerous services to islam during Prophets(saw) lifetime and even afterwards
Also the three caliphs cannot be all put in the same category the administration af Umar(ra) and the equilibrium he maintained between the tribes cannot be compared to the favors Uthman(ra) bestowed upon bani ummayyah.
While AbuBakr(ra) was prepared to overlook the insubordination of KhalidbinWalid Umar(ra) made sure no one was above the law.

shiaism as a political movement was born the day a meeting was held to nominate the successor for the Prophet(saw) and shiat-e-Ali included many prominent companions of the prophet(Ammar/Miqdad/Salman/AbuDharr/Zubair)(R.A) to all] to name a few
6 months later in the interests of unity of the ummah Ali(as) gave his Bayat to AbuBakr(ra)

present day of shiaism took a couple of centuries to evolve as a seperate religious sect
so the idea of Ali(as) being the rightful successor to the prophet(saw) was not a “jewish conspiracy” as many like to call it but was present amongst the earliest companions of the prohet(saw).

No one can claim that Umar(ra) was an enemy of Islam after all that he did for it but what is debatable is whether it would have been better if Ali(as) was the first caliph
and if closeness to the Prophet(saw) was the criteria for caliphate who was more closer to him than Ali(as)?

if you include munafiqs like muawiyyah in the ranks of sahaba it is you who are insulting the pious companions.
All sahabis cannot be treated as equals their position in Islam depends on their actions whether in Prophet’s lifetime or after that

I only speak for men like muawiyah and amr bin as and their supporters
the reason it is important to identify them as hypocrites as they decieved people in their lifetime openly violated the injunctions of Islam,cursed and martyred the companions of the Prophet(saw) and oppressed people why should we not condemn them?
why should the line between hypocrisy and Righteousness be blurred
I also present to you Ali’s(as) letter which he wrote to Muhammad bin Abu Bakar(ra), inviting him to join him against Muaweyah. "Protect yourself from Hind’s lying son and his invitation, stop and think, the Imam of guidance and the Imam of destruction, Rasulullah’s wasi (executor) and Rasulullah’s enemies can never be seen as equals". Sunni Reference: Sharh Ibn Al Hadeed Volume 6 page 71

afterall **it is cursing of sahaba that the sunnis find most objectionable about the shias then why didnt they revolt against the ummayyads when they cursed Abuturab from the pulpits?**or why despite all that is known about such men continue to honor them as sahaba?

Baseless Personal attacks on any companion is wrong any criticism should be based on historical evidence only.
bottomline is we have to change this mindset
if you criticise the first 3 caliphs in anyway you become a shia
if you praise them in any way you become a sunni

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Re: Soldiers of Allah - the Companions of Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam

Well, check who the Prophet (saw) felt most closest with.

“The fellow in whose company I feel most secure is Abu Bakr. If I were to make friendship with anyone other than Allah, I would have Abu Bakr a bosom friend of mine. For him I feel affection and brotherhood of Islam. No gate shall be kept open in the mosque except that of Abu Bakr” [Saheeh Al-Bukharee]

“There is no one among the people who has been more generous to me with his life and his property than Abu Bakr ibn Abi Quhaafa (radiallahu anhu) and if I was to take a bosom friend, I would take Abu Bakr as my bosom friend. But, the friendship of Islam is better. Block off every door in this Masjid except the door of Abu Bakr” [Saheeh Al-Bukharee]

Jundub (radiallahu anhu) narrates: “I heard the Prophet (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) five days before his death saying: "I declare my innocence before Allah that I should have any bosom friend among you for Allah Most High has taken me as His friend just as He took Ibrahim as His friend. If I were to take any bosom friend from my nation I would take Abu Bakr.” [Saheeh Muslim]

How can you call Hz. Muawiyah (ra) a munafiq when Hz. Ali in Abi Talib (ra) has claimed that there was not an iota of difference of faith between his followers and that of Hz. Muawiyah (ra)?

Following is what Hz. Ali (ra) has stated:

“The thing began in this way: We and the Syrians were facing each other while we had common faith in one Allah, in the same Prophet (s) and on the same principles and canons of religion. So far as faith in Allah and the Holy Prophet (s) was concerned we never wanted them (the Syrians) to believe in anything over and above or other than what they were believing in and they did not want us to change our faith. Both of us were united on these principles. The point of contention between us was the question of the murder of Uthman. It had created the split. They wanted to lay the murder at my door while I am actually innocent of it …” Nahjul Balagha - Letter 58

Leave the history books alone and pay heed what Hz. Ali (ra) has stated.

There is no dispute about this. Do you want me to eloborate further?

Sunni Reference: Sharh Ibn Al Hadeed Volume 6 page 71 !!!

You must be joking!!! I wish you had done some home-work before you copy-pasted this stuff.

Abi Al-Hadeed is a pure Mu’tazili [Rationalist]. He is neither a Shia nor a Sunni.

He is the same person who wrote Sarha Nahjul Balagha. I have quote from this book where Hz. Ali (ra) has put his own Belief on par with that of Hz. Muawiyah (ra). [This in no way compares rank and high standing of Hz. Ali (ra) to that of Hz. Muwiyah (ra)]

Flooders
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These threads will lead us nowhere, respect whoever you respect, you don't need to express there respect to anybody, no matter how much you respect anybody only Allah is the one who will give fruit to it you are already unlucky not to meet them alive, similarly insults will lead you no where, you will not be gifted for them, neither by Allah.

demographics of mohajirs
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Re: Soldiers of Allah - the Companions of Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam

and care to comment on the ahadith relating to Ali(as) and his relation to the prophet ?
if this had been the case if the choice of successor was so clear why werent the ansar and many muhajirin aware of it and why was there a dispute at the saqifa?
When the son of AbuBakr(ra) grew up in contrast to his sister he saw where the truth was and sided with Ali(as) until his martyrdom at the hands of munafiqs

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How can you call Hz. Muawiyah (ra) a munafiq when Hz. Ali in Abi Talib (ra) has claimed that there was not an iota of difference of faith between his followers and that of Hz. Muawiyah (ra)?

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Following is what Hz. Ali (ra) has stated:

"The thing began in this way: We and the Syrians were facing each other while we had common faith in one Allah, in the same Prophet (s) and on the same principles and canons of religion. So far as faith in Allah and the Holy Prophet (s) was concerned we never wanted them (the Syrians) to believe in anything over and above or other than what they were believing in and they did not want us to change our faith. Both of us were united on these principles. The point of contention between us was the question of the murder of Uthman. It had created the split. They wanted to lay the murder at my door while I am actually innocent of it ........................." Nahjul Balagha - Letter 58

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This letter is the opening one when there was hope that muawiyyah will back down and accept him as the rightful caliph give up his rebellion.
For unlike muawiyyah Ali(as) wanted no blood spilt but to supposedly avenge one murder Muawiyyah was willing to kill thousands when the matter could have been decided by singlecombat(as proposed by Ali(as)] he refused
have you read the other following letters?

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***Leave the history books alone and pay heed what Hz. Ali (ra) has stated.*

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leave the history books and study history? sounds kind of weird
and their is no shortage of condemnation of muawiyyah in the sermons of Ali(as)

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e is the same person who wrote Sarha Nahjul Balagha. I have quote from this book where Hz. Ali (ra) has put his own Belief on par with that of Hz. Muawiyah (ra). [This in no way compares rank and high standing of Hz. Ali (ra) to that of Hz. Muwiyah (ra)]/
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so you are ready to quote him to prove your point but not willing to accept his other references

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you have picked up just one sermon and that too with your own interpretation and did not talk about other text which contain open condemnation of Muawiyah by Ahlulbayt [as]. Let me cite a very small and precise reference.
Allamah Jalaludin Suyuti in his famed work "Tareekh ul Khulafa" rendered into English by Abdassamad Clarke as "The khalifas who took the right way" records this sermon of 'Ali (as) on page 184:
"Praise belongs to Allah Who made our enemy ask about something that had occurred to him in the matter of his deen. Mu'awiya wrote to me asking about the ambiguous hermaphrodite?"

Now i dont think there is any need to tell the status of Ali's [as] enemy in islam?

BTW here is interesting hadith Al-Baladhuri narrates in Ansáb al-Ashráf p.126, with a sahih chain:
*His sheikh Bakr bin Haytham and Isháq bin Abí Isra'íl --> Abdur-Razzáq As-San'áni --> Mu'amar bin Ráshid --> Abdullah bin Taoos --> Taoos bin Kaisan-->*Abdullah Ibn 'Amr ibn Al-'Áas states: I was sitting with the Prophet of Allah (s) when he said: A man will come out of this mountain pass, who will die and he will be outside my nation (Islam). I had left behind my father there for wudhu, and I feared, as if holding back my urine, that he would be the one to come, but Mu'awiyah came out. The Prophet (s) said: He is the one.

Katti hogayi hai =(
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Re: Soldiers of Allah - the Companions of Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam

Das Reich & BOY-NICE

Debater has started this thread to highlight about contributions of the Companions of the Prophet (saw) in aiding the Prophet (saw) in carrying out his mission.

Why is that you cannot stomach anything good about the Companions of the Prophet (saw), may Allah (saw) be pleased with them all?

The Companions of the Prophet (saw) do not need any defending from me or anybody else. Allah (saw) has praised the Companions of the Prophet (saw) in the Quran. And that should suffice. [If you are in doubt just say so and I will post many ayahs in praise of the Companions and not select few you have in mind].

Das Reich you just had said that Hz. Muawiyah (ra) was a munafiq and I proved from the lips of Hz. Ali (ra) that Hz. Ali considered Hz. Muawiyah (ra) on the same faith and belief as himself. Now that would not be fitting portrayal of a Munafiq, is it? Or is it that you know what Imam Ali (ra) doesn’t know.

Everyone agrees that Hz. Ali (ra) was on the right and his opponents were wrong due to incorrect Ijthehad. Their differences were political in nature so surely Hz. Ali (ra) will have a lot to say against Hz. Muawiyah (ra)’s stance.

Also, later Hz. Hassan bin Ali (ra) abdicated from Khilaafat in favour of Hz. Muawiyah (ra), do you seriously think that Hz. Hassan (ra) will let a munafiq to be at the helm of Muslim affairs? I am sure you will come up with many excuses, just keep them with you.

There is this famous hadith where the Prophet (saw) praised Hz. Hassan bin Ali (ra) saying that he (Hz. Hassan) will bring peace and reconciliation between two parties of Muslims.

Note: The Prophet (saw) has stated that two parties are Muslim – neither of them Munafiq.

Narrated AbuBakrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said to al-Hasan ibn Ali. "This son of mine is a Sayyid (chief), and I hope Allah may reconcile two parties of my community by means of him." Hammad's version has: "And perhaps Allah may reconcile two large parties of Muslims by means of him." Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 40, Number 4645.

I am aware that Muharram in around the corner and emotions must be stirring up. Keep your cool and leave the Companions of the Prophet (saw) alone and pay heed to the following verses of the Quran:

*That was a people that have passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case! *2:134 & 2:141

And those who came (into the faith) after them say: Our Lord! Forgive us and our brethren who were before us in the faith, and place not in our hearts any rancour toward those who believe. Our Lord! Thou art Full of Pity, Merciful. 59:10

Pay heed to the following ayah and I have highlighted some words for your attention:

Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves; you will see them bowing down, prostrating themselves, seeking grace from Allah and pleasure; their marks are in their faces because of the effect of prostration; that is their description in the Taurat and their description in the Injeel; like as seed-produce that puts forth its sprout, then strengthens it, so it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the unbelievers on account of them; Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good, forgiveness and a great reward. [48:29]

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Re: Soldiers of Allah - the Companions of Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam

Shias have lied too much and included their lies in books of Ahlus Sunnah under the banner of Taqiyyah. Off course the above is a lie fabricated by shia narrators.
We are not mushrik to worship 12 gods, so we are aware of the status of Ali and Mu'awiyah both.

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BTW here is interesting hadith Al-Baladhuri narrates in Ansáb al-Ashráf p.126, with a sahih chain:
*His sheikh Bakr bin Haytham and Isháq bin Abí Isra'íl --> Abdur-Razzáq As-San'áni --> Mu'amar bin Ráshid --> Abdullah bin Taoos --> Taoos bin Kaisan-->*Abdullah Ibn 'Amr ibn Al-'Áas states: I was sitting with the Prophet of Allah (s) when he said: A man will come out of this mountain pass, who will die and he will be outside my nation (Islam). I had left behind my father there for wudhu, and I feared, as if holding back my urine, that he would be the one to come, but Mu'awiyah came out. The Prophet (s) said: He is the one.
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Let all shias curse the First Infallible Imam who agreed upon TRUCE with this Mu'awiyah in Siffin and who agreed upon dividing his caliphate between himself and Mu'awiyah.

Let all shias curse the Second Infallible Imam who not only made peace with Mu'awiyah but entrusted his caliphate to him as well.

Let all shias curse the Third Infallible Imam who didn't take avenge for the murder of his brother from Mu'awiyah...