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are we saying that Imran khan's zina is above the law? I mean lets look at it on its own...you have the proof, the proof is living in US. Unless Imran can produce a nikah nama or claims he did muttah and that was acceptable in pakistani law. Should he not be subject to Pakistan's law?
lets not compare it to other crimes and all, but in itself, should it just be ignored?
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Why does anyone need to resign. Supreme court heard the case against Govt. ruling and overruled it, which by the way has been accepted by the Govt. Why should anyone resign? Does the American President resign every time the U.S. Supreme Court rules against the Executive? Which planet are you guys from.
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Tell the same to those Railway Ministers who resign over train accidents. It's not like they were driving the train or manning the tracks.
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Tell the same to those Railway Ministers who resign over train accidents. It's not like they were driving the train or manning the tracks.
I can't believe you just said that. You are drawing a parallel between taking responsibility over a safety failure in a public operation to a legal dispute between two branches of government. Don't let your hatred for Musharraf cloud your judgment my friend. I'll have you know that I am no friend of Musharraf either, but please, don't dwell on a single point of hatred and sacrifice all objectivity on it.
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I can't believe you just said that. You are drawing a parallel between taking responsibility over a safety failure in a public operation to a legal dispute between two branches of government. Don't let your hatred for Musharraf cloud your judgment my friend. I'll have you know that I am no friend of Musharraf either, but please, don't dwell on a single point of hatred and sacrifice all objectivity on it.
bhai jan, it's all about moral authority, which was lacking in our case to begin with.
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Why would Pakistanis ask for the resignation of Musharraf when they overwhelmingly approve of him?
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Why would Pakistanis ask for the resignation of Musharraf when they overwhelmingly approve of him?
Thanks for a good laught at the start of the day...:D
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read the last para especially.
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Why would Pakistanis ask for the resignation of Musharraf when they overwhelmingly approve of him?
No one is asking him to resign
Its only these Mullah lovers who are against him.
Musharraf is one of the best things that ever happened to Pakistan but sadly many Pakistanis are just too stupid to realize it.
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No one is asking him to resign
Its only these Mullah lovers who are against him.
Musharraf is one of the best things that ever happened to Pakistan but sadly many Pakistanis are just too stupid to realize it.
Or they actually live in Pakistan, and know the situation much better
If you knew what was happening in Pakistanmyou would realise how the country has turned against him for his corrupt, ineffectual, and blood thirsty lust for power
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Or they actually live in Pakistan, and know the situation much better
If you knew what was happening in Pakistanmyou would realise how the country has turned against him for his corrupt, ineffectual, and blood thirsty lust for power
Actually, I am 24 years old.
I have been to Pakistan enough times.
My family is well inter-twined in Pakistan.
My uncle is an ISI agent who captured Khalid Sheikh Muhammed.
My other uncle is one of the richest people in Pakistan who is an investor in Pace Circle Mall in Lahore.
My uncle's father in law was the former head of the ISI.
My other uncle is an Air Command Chief of Lahore Sector.
I know whats going on Pakistan. Just because I don't live there, doesnt mean I can't judge for my self what is happening there.
Pakistan has a lot of problems. Ethnic, sectarian, religious, political, power struggles between civil and military governments, etc....
But Pakistan is in better shape today than Musharraf came to power in 1999
It will take time but Pakistan will get its act together
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Actually, I am 24 years old.
I have been to Pakistan enough times.
My family is well inter-twined in Pakistan.
My uncle is an ISI agent who captured Khalid Sheikh Muhammed.
My other uncle is one of the richest people in Pakistan who is an investor in Pace Circle Mall in Lahore.
My uncle's father in law was the former head of the ISI.
My other uncle is an Air Command Chief of Lahore Sector.
I know whats going on Pakistan. Just because I don't live there, doesnt mean I can't judge for my self what is happening there.
Pakistan has a lot of problems. Ethnic, sectarian, religious, political, power struggles between civil and military governments, etc....
But Pakistan is in better shape today than Musharraf came to power in 1999
It will take time but Pakistan will get its act together
Exactly as i expected... only Pak army people can enjoy living here... they rule it, they sell it, they kills its people who nourished this country with their blood and they betrays its very nature...
Nobody has done more damage to Pakistan than Pak army and its tentacles... They never won a war against enemy and they only can kill its own people...
The biggest threat to Pakistan is Pak army...
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Your reasons for supporting the Army govt are obvious now
As X-com said, things are better for your military relatives, and your rich, connected uncle.
For the people of Pakistan, dealing with rising corruption and crime, the opposite is true
Re: so who is going to resign after the verdict?
No one is asking him to resign
Its only these Mullah lovers who are against him.
Musharraf is one of the best things that ever happened to Pakistan but sadly many Pakistanis are just too stupid to realize it.
It's easy calling into question the collective wisdom of a whole nation sitting outside. I encourage everyone to come and drink from the rivers of milk and honey inundating our homes here.
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AG likely to be the fall guy in case against CJ](http://www.dawn.com/2007/07/23/top5.htm)
ISLAMABAD, July 22: The government is apparently trying to find a scapegoat after the Supreme Court set aside the reference against the Chief Justice, with many eyes now being fixed on Attorney-General Makhdoom Ali Khan.
Since the filing of the reference, there is a debate about who should own up the responsibility and step down. Political leaders have demanded President Gen Pervez Musharraf, Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz and Law Minister Wasi Zafar should resign.
But many government functionaries believe that the attorney-general was primarily responsible for the mess.
An official told this correspondent that the attorney-general was ‘on his way out for mishandling the reference’ and he was mainly ‘responsible for presenting a weak case and for a lacklustre performance during the hearings’.
He said the attorney-general also failed to point out flaws in the affidavits submitted by various government functionaries, which turned out to be charge-sheets against the government itself.
According to him, one of the affidavits even led to the disclosure that phones of the judges and their relatives were still being tapped by the intelligence agencies and the court was compelled to direct intelligence agencies to debug the judges’ residences.
He conceded that while the Chief Justice was ‘forced’ to leave the President’s Camp Office on March 9 in a flag-less car ‘by the people more loyal than the King’, but stressed that it was not done on the president’s orders. He said the CJP was initially asked to ride a private car but when he refused to do so, he was allowed to sit in his official car without a flag, despite the government’s insistence that he was still the Chief Justice of Pakistan.
An attorney-general is appointed under Article 100 of the Constitution and continues to hold the office as long as the president deems it fit. The duties of an attorney General include giving advice to the government on legal matters, and performing other duties of a legal nature as may be assigned to him by the federal government.
Attorney General Makhdoom Ali Khan, who is currently in Karachi, was not available for comments.
Rumours are also making rounds in the capital that the federal minister for law and justice, who insisted that his ministry was ready to file a new reference against the Chief Justice, might also have to quit. Wasi Zafar says he will resign only if the Supreme Court’s detailed judgment finds him responsible for filing the reference.
One of the government’s lawyers, Ahmad Raza Kasuri, is on record to have stated that he would have resigned, if he had been the law minister. Another counsel Justice (retd) Malik Abdul Qayyum had gone to the extent of stating before the Supreme Court that Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz “will resign if the reference is not upheld by the court”.
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So having 1 uncle in Army makes me an Army person… ?
:halo:
Re: so who is going to resign after the verdict?
Your reasons for supporting the Army govt are obvious now
As X-com said, things are better for your military relatives, and your rich, connected uncle.
For the people of Pakistan, dealing with rising corruption and crime, the opposite is true
But the economy is getting better. Millions have been lifted out of poverty.
Don't know what you guys keep babbling about.
Corruption was in Pakistan since the day it was created.
The problem with people like you is that you only listen to those people whom you agree with and no one else. If any one disagrees then you make disparaging remarks which given you history in debates is quite understandable.
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What is there to resign if one wants to enquire about corruption if someone is alleged as corrupt, regardless of that allegation was right or wrong?
Nevertheless, none of the allegations in the reference are as yet refuted or answered. There is no such thing in judgment that CJ has not done nepotism, corruption, or that he did not misuse power or that he is not guilty of doing irregularities in office. So, maybe handling of reference and treatment to CJ was wrong …but then, what I know, reference was nothing to do with handling or treatment (to CJ), it was to do with allegations (in CJ)and was there in reference’s content, that CJ was guilty of nepotism, corruption, misuse of power and irregularities related 
I think that if CJ is really a person of dignity and integrity, if CJ has any morality and self-respect, he should not stay in office with all these allegations on him pending. He should voluntarily go on leave, and ask SJC to continue the enquiry on him. If SJC finds him guilty of those allegations, CJ should resign. Else history would remmeber him as not chief justice but corrupt justice.