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^Can we present here with different Sindhi styles,as spoken in different areas?
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i agree to the extent that Indus Valley civilisation was the precursor to Hinduism, not more than that. You can check neutral sources and decide for yourself.
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Interesting article about deities of Sindhu Valley and their reflection in today’s culture.
Dharti Mata – The Express Tribune
The countless versions of the image of the Mother Goddess, the goddess of fertility, come down to us from no fewer than 10,000 years ago. That was when the first cities of the valley of the Sindhu River began to take shape. The most ancient of those peeking down at us from that far off time being Mehrgarh, at the foot of the Bolan Pass, in Balochistan. That was 6,000 years before the Egyptians built their pyramids, over which the world went crazy in the 19th century.
The goddess wears fancy, sometimes even bizarre, head-dresses, but it is her extra wide hips and an equally large bust — the primary emblem of feminity and therefore of fertility — that are noteworthy. This distorted, even grotesque, imagery symbolises the goddess’ fecundity.
In the early years of the second millennium BCE, the Aryans displaced the ancient people of the Sindhu Valley. From the 13 skeletons discovered in one building in the ruined city of Moen jo Daro, it was first surmised that the city had been sacked by the marauding newcomers. But the masterful work of Mark Kenoyer (Ancient Cities of the Indus Valley Civilisation) shows that the influx was not all blood and gore and that there was a fair degree of integration and assimilation. This was especially true in the case of the adoption of the ancient pantheon by the newcomers.
Among others deities, the indigenous Mother Goddess became the model for the Aryan Dharti Mata or Mother Earth (Lord Shiva, too, is modelled after a pre-Aryan Sindhu Valley god). As the goddess of the Sindhu Valley, Dharti Mata was the great bestower of fertility; she was the rejuvenator of all living forms and of the earth itself. When the pious follower of the Sanatama Dharma rises from his bed, he invokes her, and when the cow is milked, the first five streams of milk are permitted to fall on the earth in her honour.
Over the millennia, Dharti Mata came to be celebrated as the giver of sons and wealth. She was invoked when the plough first broke the ground for the new season. The keepers of large herds, mostly the Gujjar clan in the subcontinent, were her most ardent believers: They could not afford to offend this powerful master of fertility so that their herds may multiply. By extension, anyone else with cattle in the yard, even if only a pair or two, worshipped Dharti Mata and sought to appease her. Others prayed to her for sons.
Now, the normal cycle of life for Dharti Mata begins in spring when she brings forth new life as the earth takes on fresh growth, grows richer through the summer and monsoon rains, and begins to wither away by late October. Through the winter months, the earth lies moribund until spring nudges it back into splendour again. Consequently, in parts of Sindh and Punjab (not having been able to see this worship in India, I cannot comment), the fertility rites connected with Dharti Mata take place in spring. That, however, does not mean that one is prevented from visiting a Dharti Mata shrine for blessing at any other time of year.
Years ago, my friend, Murlidhar Dawani of Karachi, who had done paramount research on fertility rites in Sindh, told me that besides the usual rituals, some believers sacrificed a male goat and let the animal’s blood soak the earth. This may well have been a deviation from spilling the first few streams of milk on the ground. Be that as it may, Murlidhar also said that the sacrificial animal must always be black.
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There is yet another prerequisite for Dharti Mata: Her shrine is never ever to be covered by a dome. It must always look up to the blue sky above. This condition is also shared by other local deities like Suraj Devta and Jamuna Ji and by the Muslim saint Khwaja Khizer. In Pakistan, however, both Khwaja Khizer and Dharti Mata have lost out on this open-to-the-sky pre-condition.**
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Fisherfolk invoking Khwaja Khizer as they set out on their daily routine is not an untoward sight. But even Dharti Mata is still revered and resorted to by Muslims and her shrines are spread across the country. Only, in Pakistan, she now wears another garb, one that will not offend the Muslim mind.**
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like this:
BTW, I read that Pandit Kishinchand Jetley was of the view that Sindhi Hindus got a different alphabet called ‘Hat wanika akhar’ which resembles with the writings on Moen Jo Daro’s stamps, etc. Have you heard of Jetley and this ‘Hat Wanika Akhar’?
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R. Jawhrani : Can you shed some more light on the Jetley family?
**Dr. Jetley : **All the Sindhi family names usually end with ‘ani’ suffix which has been adopted from the Sanskrit language meaning children or descendents or ‘related to’. For example Jawhrani means children of Jawharmal, Advani means Adomal’s children, Jethmalani means children of Jethamal, Gidwani means Gidumal’s children, Kripalani means Kripaldas’ children and so on. In short, the family name was derived from our ancestors’ name about 5 to 6 generations ago. Marriages are usually not solemnised amongst couples having the same family name, as it would tantamount to a marriage between siblings of the same family.
Sindhishaan - Murlidhar Jetley
Arli , whats your caste? BTW, Ahuja’s are also Sindhi. ‘Ja’ means belonging to a place
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In the book 'Making of Exile', writer tells us that Sindhi Hindus were not welcomed in India after partition due to the fact that after living in Sindh, they didn't believe in theory of 'untouchables' and were not vegetarian (They started consuming meat). I've interaction with neighbor Hindus and family friends. I've seen sharing of same well between us (Muslim family) and a Hindu family (we share common wall), so not believing in untouchable by Sindhi Hindus is what I can certify myself.
How is the situation with Sindhi Hindus who passed 6-7 decades in India?
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Informative, but way far from real facts on certain issues. Arabic never remained official language of Sindh and failure to get archaeological evidence in Sindh (being a delta) can’t be lied on Arabs.
Unfortunately the golden days of the Hindu-Sindhi Script did not last long. The way Sharda script was opposed in Kashmiri Muslims Waranki too was bitterly opposed by Muslims in Sindh. Coincidently for the same reason that so called Brahmi based scripts cannot accommodate muslin vocabulary. Muslims in Sindh oppose not only Waranki but Devanagri as well based on same logic.
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^ how is this guy asserting that south Kashmir shares border with Sindh?
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^ how is this guy asserting that south Kashmir shares border with Sindh?
You mean this?
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Moreover since till the time of Maharaja Dahir the border of Sindh touch Southern Kashmir which make one believe that in ancient times Sindhis & Kashmiri might had a very close relationships.
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Dahir's rule was extended beyond today's Sindh. Don't know where those borders lies. But MBQ went upto Multan in his incomplete expedition. So boundaries were definitely extended till Multan.
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You mean this?
Dahir's rule was extended beyond today's Sindh. Don't know where those borders lies. But MBQ went upto Multan in his incomplete expedition. So boundaries were definitely extended till Multan.
yes this...
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I wonder what this Taank is in Punjab…
Poor Kashmir has remained independent most of its history…
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I wonder what this Taank is in Punjab...
Poor Kashmir has remained independent most of its history...
and what about Zabul? very similar to Kabul.
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One more thing in the map. There are three rivers in upper Sindh, which afterwards merged into one. so the rivers haven't changed their root over 1300 years.
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Zabul is still a province in Afghanistan…
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where was Balochistan. Was it under Caliphate alongwith Makran?
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I think Jatki dialect of Sindhi is spoken there by both Pashtuns and Balochs . Gazeteer of Sibi mentions that Sindhi of Pannis is mixed with lot of Pashto words.
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where was Balochistan. Was it under Caliphate alongwith Makran?
Could be...
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I think Balochistan along with Sindh was under Arab rule.
May be apart from Makran and border areas of Sindh, remaining Balochistan was part of Iran
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May be apart from Makran and border areas of Sindh, remaining Balochistan was part of Iran
Balochistan has always remained divided, not much population now...we can imagine a few thousand years ago.
Makran has been the real thing from around Arab time.