Then why did you need to drag non-Muslim countries and equate them to liars?
Re: Signs of Qyamah, Present Situation and Future of Pakistan!
Captain FT
I don't think there's any mention of sun rising from the West in Quran but indeed the description of the Day of Judgement has been mentioned in various Surahs.
detoxed
I believe there are some Ayat and Ahadith which are literal and some are metaphores and some are both. Allah hu Alim.
There's actually some scientific research that shows that rising sun from west might happen only for once and then it will start rising from east again. So, we can only assume about the literal or metaphorical meanings of hadith.
Amir, you seem to be demonstrating same humbleness that you are telling hareem to learn, right? 
bhai sab agar apki nazar me non muslim countries itnay hi sachay hn to app unki tarah k hi kiun nahe bn jatay? haan ye zarur hai keh wo sirf apnay logon se sachay hn not with muslims. ok?
baqi her cheez me mein sirf non muslims ko hi blame nahe ker raha we are also very much responsible for that
Captain FT I don't think there's any mention of sun rising from the West in Quran but indeed the description of the Day of Judgement has been mentioned in various Surahs.
detoxed I believe there are some Ayat and Ahadith which are literal and some are metaphores and some are both. Allah hu Alim.
There's actually some scientific research that shows that rising sun from west might happen only for once and then it will start rising from east again. So, we can only assume about the literal or metaphorical meanings of hadith.
hareem yes i have seen there is no such thing written in Quran about sun rising from west it is only saabit from this hadith,
but the thing to consider is that the people researching on scientific reasons have a limited mind a man could not think more of the limits which he is given by Allah and when the scientists say that sun will rise from west for once then it will again start rising from east then how could it happen? ur a muslim u must first of all think that the sun will only rise in west at the day of qyamah and when it will rise then Qyamah will come, then how could the scientists predict more after Qyamah that what and from where sun will rise from east. except Allah tells us?
so as our minds are little so our research is also liitle. not capable of understanding all things
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Remember when i joined EC,i used to post about Islamic points...used to post to make to read about Islam,And see today i haev done it:)
sameenji! what is EC?
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AND HOW HAD YOU DONE IT?
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well why are you saying me a hacker? what have i hacked?
and what have you done i cant understand?
well yes i also agree with you but isnt there more knowledge in the west nowadays?
and what is said about qyamah is that sun will rise from the west and it will be the day of qyamah when this will happen, not in nowadays as is happening. there are still many signs to be seen.
so we cannot take knowledge increase in west as a result of this hadith. ok?
knowledge is already high in west as you can see but has the qyamah came? nope.
so we must think about other things as well no doubt that each and every verse of Quran has vast meanings.
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well my personal perception is that Qayamat is near but not that near.
Rising of sun from west cannot be taken literally as this is against the nizam of Allah. Allah has the power to do anything but I dont think he makes changes to his own Laws.
Rising of sun from west can have many meanings. It may well be that People of west will embrace Islam and will become more pious as Taqwa will be seen here.
Whatever it is, It has to be related to western countries.
Re: Signs of Qyamah, Present Situation and Future of Pakistan!
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) one day said: Do you know where the Sun goes? They replied: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Verily it (the Sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise up and go to the place whence you came, and it goes back and continues emerging out from its rising place and then glides till it reaches its place of rest under the Throne and falls prostrate and remains in that state until it is asked: Rise up and return to the place whence you came, and it returns and emerges out from it rising place and the it glides (in such a normal way) that the people do not discern anything (unusual in it) till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it would be said to it: Rise up and emerge out from the place of your setting, and it will rise from the place of its setting. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said. Do you know when it would happen? It would happen at the time when faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from the faith.
Re: Signs of Qyamah, Present Situation and Future of Pakistan!
NASA- Sunrise from the WestGet ready,The science of astronomy states that the speed of planet Mars has been decreasing in its course toward the eastern direction in the past few weeks to the level we notice the 'waver' between the east and the west.. and on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement stopped going toward the eastern direction. Then in the months of August and September... Mars changed its course in the opposite direction to the West- and that until the end of September..which means the sun will rise now from the west on Mars!! And this weird phenomena of the opposite movement called 'Retrograde Motion' Most scientist state that all the planets will go through the same once at least and our planet Earth is one of them. Planet Earth will move in the opposite direction some day and the sun will rise from the west!! This might occur soon and we are unaware! The rise of the sun from the west is mentioned in the hadith and this is the major sign of the day of judgment, most if not All, the minor signs have occured.
well my personal perception is that Qayamat is near but not that near.
Rising of sun from west cannot be taken literally as this is against the nizam of Allah. Allah has the power to do anything but I dont think he makes changes to his own Laws.
Rising of sun from west can have many meanings. It may well be that People of west will embrace Islam and will become more pious as Taqwa will be seen here.
Whatever it is, It has to be related to western countries.
to bhai sab mein ne konsa kaha hai k qyamat itni hi qareeb aa rahi hai k kal humara last din hoga?
abhi to minor signs namudar hue hn major nahe
^FT bohat saarey logo kaa kayaal hai ke minor signs pooray ho gaye hain ab major signs kaa intezaar hai 
yes ume sis! ur right. taqreeban saray minor signs pooray ho chukay hn lekin log kehtay hn k abhi qyamat bohot door hai abhi to imam mehdi ne physically namudar hona hai phir Hazrat Issa(AS) ne bhi ana hai phir 300 saal hakumat kerni hai aur utni der tk to hum sb mar jaengay. isliay kher hi hai jo kerna hai ker lo.
well thats wrong aur kai logon ki aesi soch hai.
Re: Signs of Qyamah, Present Situation and Future of Pakistan!
so you compared all this to just pakistan...there are other muslim countries too...how would you compare each point to those?
so you compared all this to just pakistan...there are other muslim countries too...how would you compare each point to those?
o behen ji mein ne subko compare ker k kaha hai sirf pakistan ko nahe, Pakistan k waqeaat ka to isliay bhi zikr kia tha k pakistan muslim duniya mein main hai defence k hawalay se aur world war me pakistan ka bohot ziada role hoga muslim countriz me.
bus thats it.
baqi her cheez sirf pakistan me hi to nahe ho rahi na changes to her jaga aa rahi hn
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and Muslims are not honest/truthful even to themselves, give credit where its due.
NASA- Sunrise from the WestGet ready,The science of astronomy states that the speed of planet Mars has been decreasing in its course toward the eastern direction in the past few weeks to the level we notice the 'waver' between the east and the west.. and on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement stopped going toward the eastern direction. Then in the months of August and September... Mars changed its course in the opposite direction to the West- and that until the end of September..which means the sun will rise now from the west on Mars!! And this weird phenomena of the opposite movement called 'Retrograde Motion' Most scientist state that all the planets will go through the same once at least and our planet Earth is one of them. Planet Earth will move in the opposite direction some day and the sun will rise from the west!! This might occur soon and we are unaware! The rise of the sun from the west is mentioned in the hadith and this is the major sign of the day of judgment, most if not All, the minor signs have occured.
MAshaAllah,i love you lady really.
Im your fan now:)
Here you are doing a great job
and Muslims are not honest/truthful even to themselves, give credit where its due.
yes bhai i also agree with you
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