Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
Fought for their freedom or used religion as a tool? But anyway that is a discussion that'll go nowehere, I was just trying to show Paki Heart another angle.
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
People of Pakistan didn't fight and win - a few leaders led by Jinnah did and the people followed.
Anyway, what a ridiculous discussion! Pakistan has nukes, Shoab, Baluchistan and Musharaf, not mention uncle Sam. No need to worry atleast till then
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
^^ I agree
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
yay!! thats it thats the spirit homez.
I think the wetbacks, vatos and homeboys in California should start a La Intifada and their motto should be hasta la victoria siempre :>
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
Its kinda ironic that the Amerikkkan border patrol are stoping thousands of mexicans from entering california, arizona etc which is really land of mexico!
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^ just as ironic as BSF stopping the Pakistanis and BD'sfrom entering India?
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The latinos will get there land back one day just as the palestinians will get back the land of palestine for sure what does around comes around as they say.
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^ and pagans will get their land becca in mecca..inshallah..what goes around comes around..
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
Some people like to base ideas on fairlyland while others look at reality and what will be inevitable.
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
^ Look who's living in fairlyand. Americans turned California from nothing to the 5th largest economy in the world. You think Mexicans, by demography or whatever can claim a right to all that American development and investment? My friend, you're living in a fairyland. The only way Mexicans could take it over is by buying it or beating Americans by force. Neither of which will or could happen in our lifetime.
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You have a limited lifespan, i have a limited lifespan, russia was a superpower yesterday and look at it now today you see the hispanics as nothing but poverty stricken and landless tommorow who is to say they will not take over Khalifornia and arizona!
I live in pakistan actually not fairlyland or disneyland!
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
Pak BH büey, no seas pendejo, cabrón!
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
Not necessarily. American border security is so weak on US-Mexico border that states like California are seeing a very rapid change in ethnic make-up. If the trend continues, we’ll soon see a huge Latino electorate, electing people who are more sympathetic to Latino issues.
Remember, California already has a Latino Lt. Governor. And California is a state that is highly legislated through public initiatives. If you remember, there is a constant demand to issue drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. The move actually suceeded in the legislature, and only when Arnold became governor did he block it. Next time we may not be so lucky.
Point being, slowly and gradually Mexicans are gaining political control of the state. There may not be a bloody war or a buy-back involving a gazillion dollars. It may just be a gradual slide and then one day you wake up and California has a Mexican governor and a Mexican dominated legislature, and the game is practically over.
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
There is no danger of a Mexican governor or legislator without a bloody war, as I'm pretty sure California's constitution requires candidates to be American citizens. Federal government runs the show anyway.
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Seminole, I am assuming you are not so close to the ground realities in California. No offence. Most hispanics in California legislature are second-generation, so they definitely are American citizens, but during the discussion on such issues, it becomes very clear very quickly, where there loyalties lie. Drivers license for illegal immigrants was a classic example, not so far ago. And a hispanic governor of California is really closer than you may think. Maybe 20 years. Give or take a few.
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Mexico will never take over America. Mexicans will become American before that happens. If we can take over Pakistan without even invading...Mexico is small chalupas.
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No, Faisal, I do not live in California. But I don't limit my socio-economic political opinions to the state I live in. What the heck are we all doing talking about Iraq if we have such limitiations?
I don't doubt an Hispanic governor could be in California's near futre, but I don't think your example of drivers license for illegal immigrants is any indicator that Mexico is going to take over California. I understand (even though I am not so close to the ground realities in California) that 2nd generation legislators favor lenient hispanic immigration policies, but even if hispanic Americans become the majority in the state government, they are still American.
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Ofcourse, they are Americans. But you have to see the policies they favor, and whether their sympathies are to keep American strong or to make Mexico strong. Do you know the strain put on border states due to education and health costs of illegal immigrants. But do these legislatures want to enact stricter laws to limit state/federal funding in supporting illegal immigrants? No. Do any of them favor border security? No. Do they want to promote English or Spanish? I mean, the list is countless. If they succeed in everything they want to do, the state of Mexifornia is pretty darn close. Mexico doesn't even need to formally take over California. It'll be redundant. And yes, they will all remain carriers of blue American passport. Big deal! :)
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Faisal:
Mexicans flock to California because it is the US not because they want it to become Mexico. They are leaving Mexico for a reason you know. Poor economy, lack of opportunity, bad healthcare, poor educational system, lack of sanitation, political corruption, police corruption, etc. etc. etc. While 1st and second generation Mexicans are inclinded toward making immigration easier for Mexicans like their parents and grandparents so that they too can participate in the American dream, there is no vision of changing the American dream into the Mexican dream. As the strains of that immigration cause California cities to start resembling Tijuana, these same first and second generation Mexican Americans will either turn off the immigration spout to preserve the American dream in California or they will move to Oregon or Nevada and give up on Mexifornia.
Re: should mexico get back california, arizona and texas ?
California is already mexican i thought it was a given that the state language was spanish already :)
Next stop arizona