Shiva, arms and colour.

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these links will give you more inforrmation of Hinduism.

One Third of a Billion Hindu Gods](http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa110299.htm?once=true&)

God and Gods of Hinduism](http://www.hindunet.org/god/ht_article_god1.html)

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Gupta…There have been 2 questions raised in this thread…Where on the site are those two questions answered? Can you please tell us?

The two questions in the order of their priority are:

  1. How many hands does Shiva have?

  2. Where did the Shiv lingam come from and what are its origins?

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not more or less than allah

kaaba

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LOL, you think the origin of the lingam is kaaba? Oh right, so the kaaba is suddenly the origin of black stone worship for the ancient Greeks and Egyptians too? LOL:D

Its really amusing when hindus don’t have a definitive answer to the linga they always bring in the kaaba.

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Another Hindu tradition associated with the Kaaba is that of the sacred stream Ganga (sacred waters of the Ganges river). According to the Hindu tradition Ganga is also inseparable from the Shiva emblem as the crescent moon. Wherever there is a Siva emblem, Ganga must co-exist. True to that association a sacred fount exists near the Kaaba. Its water is held sacred because it has been traditionally regarded as Ganga since pre-Islamic times (Zam-Zam water).
[Note: Even today, Muslim pilgrims who go to the Kaaba for Haj regard this Zam-Zam water with reverence and take some bottled water with them as sacred water.]

Muslim pilgrims visiting the Kaaba temple go around it seven times. In no other mosque does the circumambulation prevail. Hindus invariably circumambulate around their deities. This is yet another proof that the Kaaba shrine is a pre-Islamic Indian Shiva temple where the Hindu practice of circumambulation is still meticulously observed.

The practice of taking seven steps- known as Saptapadi in Sanskrit- is associated with Hindu marriage ceremony and fire worship. The culminating rite in a Hindu marriage enjoins upon the bride and groom to go round the sacred fire four times (but misunderstood by many as seven times). Since “Makha” means fire, the seven circumambulations also prove that Mecca was the seat of Indian fire-worship in the West Asia.

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It’s quite possible that Hinduism is an adulteration of an earlier version of Islam (Islam didn’t begin with the Prophet Muhammad :saw: ).

There’s many similarities between Hindu/Indian paganism and pre-Islamic Arab paganism. As God sent guidance to every nation, it’s highly likely that “Hinduism” too borrows many concepts and rituals from once divinely revealed Indian religions.

The pre-Islamic Arabs were once Muslim followers of Abraham and Ishmael but later they started innvoating things in their religion and borrowing concepts from other religions untill they turned it into polytheism venetrating angels, stars, holy men, genies (both the good spirits and evil demons amongst them) and prophets as deities and intermeditaries between them and God.

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Strange people here..^:D

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A couple of misunderstandings here:

  1. No…Allah does not have hands as despicted in the pictures…

  2. The black stone being part of some Hindu ritual or even the fact that Hindus actually lived in Arabia at the time is an implausible situation, because let’s face it, where is Hinduism found nowadays? Only in Hindustan, so Hindus being around at the time of Islamic arrival is not just improbable, but highly unbelievable…

That link you provided talks of a Hindu empire stretching all the way from India to the middle east…Just one question though: What Hindu empire? :smiley:

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^ proove me that.. did u see allah..:D

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No, but I have seen Shiva…

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me too

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Well i saw allah as well. he looks like shiva u know.:D

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This is not the point..You can not see Allah that easily.. and no i dun agree, Shiva doesnt look like Allah

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My God what a nutcase :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: The analogies they come up with are hilarious :stupid:

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I know, Hindus are funny, they think if they are confident whilst chatting **** they might convince us.

I can't imagine many Hindus being able to conquer and rule other lands, Yeh sab mardoN ka kaam hai HinduoN ka nahein. Hindus are meant to be ruled over by others.

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Ranjhan: some words and statements are never meant to be uttered by Muslims. That's just not what Islam is about.

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No one has seen Allah except Musa :as:, and that too, only a glimpse…

I was referring to the pictures that are posted in this thread, hence, I have seen Shiva…

The questions are very simple:

A) How many hands does Shiva have?

and

B) Where did the Shiv lingam originate from?

Until now, we have ruled out the possibility of Hajra-e-Aswad being a lingam…So let’s forget Makkah…

Now, how did the Shiv lingam come into being?

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lajjo: Rasoolulah:saw: also saw Him:swt: on the night of Me’raaj.

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^ Actually hinduism is very old (ancient ) religion, and If some part is not understandable, then it does not automatically mean that it has no historical value.

The similarity of circling Kaaba by muslims and those found in practice by hindus are actually quite true.

As, pre-Islamic araibia mostly worshiped idols and so do hindus ... So i think any similarity is anything but strange !

In my view, Hindu gods were most probably the prophets sent to the people at that time, some with great powers and some with great piety... So as the origin is same, the similarity is understandable :)

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According to my knowledge there was a veil…I may be wrong, but let’s make certain first…