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Originally posted by Degas: Shah Jahan,
u can confirm from any of ur scholars..
Hazrat Ali(R.A) had 4 wives and 27 children. One was named Umar and another Uthman. The only point is that hazrat Ali died after Hazrat Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman and he was in clear position to judge their actions.
..on the other hand what ur saying its always sunnis who are grieved here when shais here curse Hazrat Ayesha(RA) Hazrat Abu Bakr, Umar and Usman... and u know well who do that here.. and regarding shia philosophy more than i billion muslims dont believe it .. ts a philosophy and not a part of religion Islam..
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Well I know many scholars and if would be as so kind as if to give me some proof, I would be quite happy...
As for cursing the Khalifa, I already told you, we only retaliate coz we are being pointed fingers at. Stop making life difficult for us and I think no one will call 'em khalifa's anything...
More than 4 billion people dont belive in 'Islamic' philosophy, does that make it wrong? Philosophy is the study of a thing in a deeper sense. And that shia study tells us that Hazrat Ali had no sons named Umer and Usman...
.. if someone points fingers at what u do u start cursing wife and Sahabas of Prophet Muhammad ? .. thats impressing.. Is this part of Shia philosophy? Islam today is one of the greatest religions of world and expanding .. to me its message was completed when Quran was completed and no reveletion came after Prophet Muhammad… judging peoples actions is a job for God not humans since humans can make errors .. u havent heard bout those sons of Hazrat Ali since u were told or learned only things that suited u.. the only thing that would be helpful if Hazrat Ali had those sons is to bridge the gap of hatred between sections of muslims.. its a hard job I know can can play with our inborn ego not to admit ..
..we discussed this topic in past .. check how some shias like Ramesha admitted while others though admitted ut start their usual bad language instead of contributting to the topic.. read and see who points fingers .. http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum13/HTML/001630.html
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Originally posted by a1shah: If anyone became a sect it is the sunnis into their 4 madhabs, 200 + years after the death of our holy prophet (pbuh).
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There are no madhabs. They are schools that follow the Qur'an and sunnah. Wishful thinking is you think they are in the 72.
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Shias of Ali (as) have always been present, from the time of the prophet (pbuh) to now. The prophet (pbuh) gave good tidings to Imam Ali's shias saying "Oh Ali, yr shias are on the right path".**
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Anybody who attributes a lie to the Prophet (sallallaho alaihe wasallam) and he who spreads it will suffer severe consequences.
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As far as naming kids are concerned, I have 3 dogs at work that one might say are like kids. Guess what I've named them.**
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For this statement, I can only say 'astaghfir Allah'. May Allah guide you or let you taste in this world the consequences.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.