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We do not treat Christians and non-Muslims with disdain. As a Muslim country we are supposed to protect our minorities. In our tribal areas the tribes do protect the minorities. Isolated incidents by few fanatics are condemned by all. All our governments protect the minoritis as a policy unlike our so-called 'democratic and secular' neighbour, where it is the state policy to exterminate the minorities.
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There are many stories where Christians are in jails in Pakistan because they have been falsely convicted of blasphemy. And the mullahs will threaten any judges or the Christians if they fight this injustice. Do you deny this?
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As for the blasphemy question, why does anybody have to profane our Holy Prophet [P.B.U.H.] to test our tolerance? The Muslims living in other lands do not insult the Christians and other faiths. I referred to Sherry Rehman because being a Muslim and Pakistani she is encouraging the non-Muslims by her misguided 'liberism'. She is obviously playing to the western gallery as some on this thread have done. Nasreena Jalil the Bangladeshi writer has also tried to be 'liberal'.
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So we should jail or kill her because she is trying to be "liberal"? Why are you threatened by this Sherry Rehman so much? If your faith is strong let her say what she wants. In the west, people including Muslims say whatever they like about Christianity and nobody says they should be jailed or killed under any blasphemy law.
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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
In Islam, anybody insulting the personality of the Prophet (saw) has a death sentence! For thieves hands are to be cut as directed by the Quran, for adulterers and adultresses 100 lashes are to be given.
So does this mean that Islam is in any way intolerant religion? Certainly not! The problem is that we have started judging things by Western standards.
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Of course compared to Western society who have learned to put religion as a personal matter, Islam is more intolerant. That is why they don't understand us when some muslim judge orders a women to be stoned to death because she was raped!
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Of course compared to Western society who have learned to put religion as a personal matter, Islam is more intolerant. That is why they don't understand us when some muslim judge orders a women to be stoned to death because she was raped!
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What are you talking about? Is spreading lies the purpose of your life or what?
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*Originally posted by Imdad Ali: *
Of course compared to Western society who have learned to put religion as a personal matter, Islam is more intolerant. That is why they don't understand us when some muslim judge orders a women to be stoned to death because she was raped!
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You are so much impressed by the Western Society that you have lost your focus. Come back to Earth.
What are you talking about? Is spreading lies the purpose of your life or what?
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How many blasphemy cases are pending in the West against Muslims who preach Islam?
tshombe39, you have lost your focus on the rights and wrongs.
ammarr, is Imdad the one spreading lies or the members who can’t even quote references when spouting fatwas based on fabrications??
reading these discussions makes me lose all sympathy for the oppression of Muslims everywhere.. who knows.. maybe they deserve it for having such an intolerant belief system…
well mufakar, i would suggest you go and investigate the meaning of the word maulana. These desi hacks who take on this title should be slapped around with a peshawari chappal. whats next ppl are going to take teh word "Allah" as their title.
Hmm I think I can guess what Maulana means since Maula is used in reference to Allah so would Maulana mean our Maula (The "na" being the arabic plural posessive case)? Well can you blame them, they certainly wield power as if they were some sort of divine authority.
Muffakaer. here is an article which may be of interest.
The true meaning of MAULANA
No country uses “Maulana” title: The mullahs have adopted for themselves the honorific title of “Maulana” (which means OUR protector, OUR lord, OUR master) – which has the most serious un-Islamic connotation of placing another WITH the Almighty (SHIRK).
The word “maulana” is a compound word – MAULA and NA (our) which, under strict Islamic philosophy is applicable to God ALONE!
The word is used only twice in the Holy Quran, and refers to Allah Subhaanahoo Wa Ta’aala, indicating that it can be referred only to Him and NO ONE ELSE!
(1) “Rabana…anta MAULANA fansoorna alal qaumil Kaafireen – Our Lord…You are our Protector/ Lord/ Master, so grant us victory over the unbelievers” (2:286).
(2) “Huwa MAULANA; wa alal Laahi fal yatawakkalil Mu’minoon – He (Allah) is our Protector/ Lord/ Master, And on Allah let the Believers rely” (9:51).
The argument is supported by the facts that:
* in no other country in the world this honorific title is used;
* in West Asia the title used is SHAIKH (head) and USTAAD (teacher);
* in Iran the word used is IMAM (Leader), or MULLAH;
*the Bohra Muslim sect head is called SAYYADINA (our leader);
* in Central Asia countries the word used is MULLAH;
* the word “maulana” is in usage only among the Urdu-speaking Muslims of the sub-continent;
*until the birth of maulanaism, the words used among the Urdu-speakers also were MULLAH (fully equipped) or MAULAWI (belonging to God);
* the dictionaries of the 19th century do not have this word “maulana”, and it is found only in modern dictionaries indicating that it is of recent origin;
Your naivete amazes me. How does preaching become blasphemy? You are still hovering in the clouds. As for your undying devotion to western society please read the following comments:-
“Teenage girls are commonly dressed as provocatively as prostitutes. Lewd tattoos and body piercing are covering the bodies of today’s youth. Heterosexual, homosexual, and lesbian sex is publicly exposed in every sector of society. Our youth are being taught that this behavior is normal and accepted. Self-respect and respect for the rights of others has diminished to the point of being almost non-existent in America.”
“Charity,” Condoms for Children . The distribution of condoms outside our nations schools is neither charitable nor wise. Nevertheless what it did was bring to surface the uncertainties of our current state with regards to sexual freedom. This action insulted those in our society, who prefer to delight in the sport of silent speculation about sex and sexually transmitted diseases.
Why I Am Never Going Back To America By Zeba Khan, US Citizen- Often at parties, mostly at weddings, people (with sons my age who eat, drink, and dream in red, white and blue) will slyly ask whether or not I have plans of returning. I say no, not at all, not unless pigs fly, hell freezes over, and the Cubs win the World Series, all on the same day. Then they ask me why, and I can never answer them. I’m ashamed to, and the reason why is because the true nature of American society is obscene, and Islamic Taboos are often rites of Passage back in God Bless America. The sins that Americans proudly broadcast are so fahosh (obscene!) that I cannot mention them in mixed company in more than a whisper. But luckily I can type though, and here, dear readers, dear sly aunties, dear people who think I’m insane, is why I’m never going back to the US. -----I, and hundreds of thousands of other young Muslims who were unfortunate enough to be educated in the US, was taught that being gay (Hijra!) is quite normal. Never mind the two girls sitting outside the class window kissing each other with open mouths - they’re exercising their right of choice. Homosexuality is not a deviation, it’s a lifestyle, and a rather trendy one at that. ------Hooray for gay-rights and the yearly gay-pride parades held in most major cities of the US. If you’re fortunate enough not to know what a gay-pride parade is, allow me to ruin your day. It’s a procession of cars, decorated floats, dancers, near-naked hijras and brainwashed heterosexuals who are proud to be part of a sin so severe that it caused the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. -----Back to school, if your son or daughter needs a condom so that they can have a little fun on their lunch break, they don’t need to be ashamed. They can just go to the school counselor’s office and get one from her, for free. If any of the students want to exercise the freedom that the American forefathers fought and died for, and engage in some pre-marital relations without any of the consequences, then there are hundreds of NGO’s to help them with birth control, adoption, or abortion, without ever letting the parents know what‘s going on. http://www.jihadunspun.net/newsarchive/article_internal.php?article=54380&list=/newsarchive/index.php&offset=25&
Oops I must have entered the wrong thread. I thought I was viewing "Sherry Rahman Should Be Tried For Blasphemy", not "Immoral and Decadent American Society Is Obscene in the Eyes of Allah". The stench of self-righteousness and insolence is suddenly very strong.
