Sheikh Character Assasination

[Sharaabi]

Re: Sheikh Character Assasination

@ahmadjee

Doesn’t the Quran proclaim in the very first verses that the book contains guidance for the righteous?

No. **Huda-llil Mutaqeeen **The word used is Mutaqeeen, those who fear Allah, and have submitted to Him whole heartedly.

[gupguppy]

Re: Sheikh Character Assasination

@PakistaniAbroad

disagree.. a Book revealed for all times to come does not have to be bound by ‘context of revelation’…"

now you’ve taken me out of context!.. the part you didn’t quote is where i said, “although a verse’s application is not necessarily limited to the context of revelation”

Allah wasn’t rambling along correcting Himself.. He knew the whole revelation to be revealed.. He’s perfect.. He doesn’t make mistakes.. or ‘abroagte’ His own verses and then let them get included in the Book.. these are all fantasies spurned by Persian mischief makers.

perhaps the problem is that you think abrogation amounts to ‘making mistakes’, of course it doesn’t… there’s the switching of Qiblas (2:143-144), the lightening of the burden when facing the enemy from a ratio of 1 to 10 down to 1 to 2 (8:65-66) to give but two examples

we know that Prophet Isa’s (s) law permitted for the Jews things previously forbidden to them (3:50)… so if abrogation can take place across different revelations (e.g. the Injil partially or wholly abrogating the Tawrah) then i don’t see any real problem accepting abrogation within a single scripture…

once again not necessary.. The Qur’an is a Book for all times ..

and Muhammad (saw) is God’s prophet and messenger for all times and to all people…

even when the Prophet wasn’t available to remind people how he understood it..

we aren’t talking about situations were people couldn’t find out or were unaware of the Prophet (saw)'s explanation… not bothering to find out however is an entirely different matter

The Qur’an directly addresses The Muslims and the Believers so after the message was conveyed they are on their own to understand it.

the same Qur’an places Prophet Muhammad (saw) as an example to be followed and an explainer of the Qur’an… so it is erroneous to disregard his (saw) understanding and application of the Qur’an and call it “not necessary”

[ahmadjee]

Re: Sheikh Character Assasination

Sharaabi, if you want to go into details, it is actually translated by some 'scholars' as those who guard themselves against sins big and small. But it doesn't change the essence of the verse that Quran is the guidance for the masses who are inclined to submit. Not only for those who are Arab literature Shiekhs.