Serving US soldier calls for an end to the "crusade"

i can’t believe he actually stated all this.
He is, at the moment, presently serving in Iraq.

We are facing death in Iraq for no reason, The Guardian, 19 September 2003, Tim Predmore

For the past six months, I have been participating in what I believe to be the great modern lie: Operation Iraqi Freedom.

After the horrific events of September 11 2001, and throughout the battle in Afghanistan, the groundwork was being laid for the invasion of Iraq. “Shock and awe” were the words used to describe the display of power that the world was going to view upon the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom. It was to be an up-close, dramatic display of military strength and advanced technology from within the arsenals of the American and British military.

But as a soldier preparing to take part in the invasion of Iraq, the words “shock and awe” rang deep within my psyche. Even as we prepared to depart, it seemed that these two great superpowers were about to break the very rules that they demanded others obey. Without the consent of the United Nations, and ignoring the pleas of their own citizens, the US and Britain invaded Iraq. “Shock and awe”? Yes, the words correctly described the emotional impact I felt as we embarked on an act not of justice, but of hypocrisy.

From the moment the first shot was fired in this so-called war of liberation and freedom, hypocrisy reigned. After the broadcasting of recorded images of captured and dead US soldiers on Arab television, American and British leaders vowed revenge while verbally assaulting the networks for displaying such vivid images. Yet within hours of the deaths of Saddam Hussein’s sons, the US government released horrific photographs of the two dead brothers for the entire world to view. Again, a “do as we say and not as we do” scenario.

As soldiers serving in Iraq, we have been told that our purpose is to help the people of Iraq by providing them with the necessary assistance militarily, as well as in humanitarian efforts. Then tell me where the humanity is in the recent account in Stars and Stripes (the newspaper of the US military) of two young children brought to a US military camp by their mother in search of medical care.

The two children had, unknowingly, been playing with explosive ordnance they had found, and as a result they were severely burned. The account tells how, after an hour-long wait, they - two children - were denied care by two US military doctors. A soldier described the incident as one of many “atrocities” on the part of the US military he had witnessed.

Thankfully, I have not personally been a witness to atrocities - unless, of course, you consider, as I do, that this war in Iraq is the ultimate atrocity.

So what is our purpose here? Was this invasion because of weapons of mass destruction, as we have so often heard? If so, where are they? Did we invade to dispose of a leader and his regime because they were closely associated with Osama bin Laden? If so, where is the proof?

Or is it that our incursion is about our own economic advantage? Iraq’s oil can be refined at the lowest cost of any in the world. This looks like a modern-day crusade not to free an oppressed people or to rid the world of a demonic dictator relentless in his pursuit of conquest and domination, but a crusade to control another nation’s natural resource. Oil - at least to me - seems to be the reason for our presence.

There is only one truth, and it is that Americans are dying. There are an estimated 10 to 14 attacks every day on our servicemen and women in Iraq. As the body count continues to grow, it would appear that there is no immediate end in sight.

I once believed that I was serving for a cause - “to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States”. Now I no longer believe that; I have lost my conviction, as well as my determination. I can no longer justify my service on the basis of what I believe to be half-truths and bold lies.

With age comes wisdom, and at 36 years old I am no longer so blindly led as to believe without question. From my arrival last November at Fort Campbell, in Kentucky, talk of deployment was heard, and as that talk turned to actual preparation, my heart sank and my doubts grew. My doubts have never faded; instead, it has been my resolve and my commitment that have.

My time here is almost done, as well as that of many others with whom I have served. We have all faced death in Iraq without reason and without justification. How many more must die? How many more tears must be shed before Americans awake and demand the return of the men and women whose job it is to protect them, rather than their leader’s interest?

· Tim Predmore is a US soldier on active duty with the 101st Airborne Division, based near Mosul in northern Iraq. A version of this article appeared in the Peoria Journal Star, Illinois

**With age comes wisdom, and at 36 years old I am no longer so blindly led as to believe without question. **

The lotus grows in dirty waters…

Thanks for sharing Nadia…:k:

Wow..what a great country the US that people can feel this way and speak their mind. One person's views don't reflect the pulse of the country or it's armed forces in particular. But 10,000 Iraqis toppling the statue of saddam means something. Number my dear..numbers...ain't it wonderful?

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Wow..what a great country the US that people can feel this way and speak their mind. One person's views don't reflect the pulse of the country or it's armed forces in particular. But 10,000 Iraqis toppling the statue of saddam means something. Number my dear..numbers...ain't it wonderful?
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well he'll feel the greatness of his country when he'll come back, IF he came back. and then he'll feel the not-so-very-greatness of his military hot-heads when he'll go through the process of court-marshelling :)

10,000? you must be watching CNN then. all other networks reported less than 50 ppl surrounded by american troops and tanks were there to topple saddam's statue and these too were hand-picked by USA administeration. and if you still insist on numbers then more than 15 million iraqis want stupid americans to leave their country. how come americans haven't listen to them so far. Number my dear...numbers... ain't it wonderful :)

This guy seems a bit of an ideologue.. that aside, there is a large portion (larger than usual) of the military (and related civilian personnel) that is severely disgruntled. Some are ideologues, but many of the clear-headed folks, people with decades of service, not just SPCs that miss their girlfriend, are increasingly against this admin because of its botched policy. There is a big problem internally. It needs to be fixed but I don't see that happening.. IF Bush gets reelected, don't expect to see Rumsfeld.

ah.
:smiley: Just out of curiosity, Spoon, not that this is hugely important and you may certainly choose to ignore it if you wish :flower1: :flower1: … if you don’t mind my asking, what is your definition of an “ideologue”?

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Wow..what a great country the US that people can feel this way and speak their mind. One person's views don't reflect the pulse of the country or it's armed forces in particular. But 10,000 Iraqis toppling the statue of saddam means something. Number my dear..numbers...ain't it wonderful?
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As usual you got your facts wrong. 10,000 is the number of innocent Iraqis killed by the trigger happy invaders. Got it!!!!!.

:slight_smile: It’s cute how you always ask these things so politely and delicately, that’s a good thing tho :flower1: :flower1:

What I meant by that, really, is that I’ve seen better critiques (from similar sources). He writes a good editorial, it is emotional and emphatic, but it is only one that one side can enjoy and the other ignore. A really good editorial should stir both sides to a sense of necessary change. His talk of “hypocrisy”, while quite a valid charge, isn’t the best way to go. So, this does give a good picture of the sentiment on the ground, but this guy may be in the extreme case.

I think too much into things, huh? :mudhosh: Anyway.. for a good, and perhaps artificially balanced, selection of letters on Iraq and other things military the Stars & Stripes letters to the editor section is probably one of the better things available to civilians at large. There’s also SFTT which tends to be lucid and accurate.

aw thanks Spoon. i appreciate that.

SFTT... never read any of their pieces before. Thank you for the link. Will definitely check it out.

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No, i think you are more objective than some of us (i include myself first and foremost); perhaps objectivity is desperately needed when we are discussing issues like these.

Thank you for your reply.

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Wow..what a great country the US that people can feel this way and speak their mind. One person's views don't reflect the pulse of the country or it's armed forces in particular. But 10,000 Iraqis toppling the statue of saddam means something. Number my dear..numbers...ain't it wonderful?
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well said indeed, but the 10,000 Iraqis? I doubt you were there counting them personally, and if you were.... you obviously can't count. There were more camera men there than Iraqis. Facts my dear facts ..... although this mans views may not be taht of the wider American public it is a sign that people in America are waking up.

And just becasue the majority believe something that does not proove its case either. For example, in Nazi germany anti-semitism was the norm, it is well known now that it was not right.
Supposing that the US going into "Eye-raq" benifitted the "Eye-raqis" noone should be under the delusion that this was the sole purpose. Operation Liberation my ****. It was more of a fortunate side effect. One which worked to their benifit as weapons off "mass destruction" still remain things of fairy-tales, like sleeping beauty and cinderalla....
Liberation of a down-trodden peoples was NOT the presidence under which war was called either.
Any Yanks heard the statement given by the Cheif weapons inspector stating that Sadam had almost certainly destroyed weapons 10yrs ago?
America the land of the free has a long way to go before it can honestly say that it is not layered with propaganda and spin.
No-where do I see Bush being held accountable for the lies he told.
But I do not blame baby bush, it is the american people who need to wake up not the occasional hiccuped awakening but a permanent rise from this self induced slumber.

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IF Bush gets reelected, don't expect to see Rumsfeld.
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Good riddance...If only P. Wolfawitz and R. Perle could go as well..

Perle is already gone.

No problem.. but that’s ^ not true :flower1: :wink:

That’s partly why I said that.. remember when word came out that Powell wanted to step down? how quick that rumor got shut down? The rumor proposed Wolfowitz as becoming SecState! There is no way Bush could ever get elected like that.. too many Republicans hate those 2, not to mention Dem and others. (and, yes, Perle is still out there.. he just went back to operating from the shadows)

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well he'll feel the greatness of his country when he'll come back, IF he came back. and then he'll feel the not-so-very-greatness of his military hot-heads when he'll go through the process of court-marshelling :)

10,000? you must be watching CNN then. all other networks reported less than 50 ppl surrounded by american troops and tanks were there to topple saddam's statue and these too were hand-picked by USA administeration. and if you still insist on numbers then more than 15 million iraqis want stupid americans to leave their country. how come americans haven't listen to them so far. Number my dear...numbers... ain't it wonderful :)
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BGJ : beautiful reply. I love it. I think as a result Matsui has gone to other areas to post ignorant opinions.