Seminole, last i checked, Condy and Powell were not white males. There are other minorities in republican party so do not go there.
Inaction of Slick Willy killed thousands as well. Who is responsible for that?
I sure hope that you dont work for any of the large enetrprises, man they are evil for putting the food on so many tables across americas. They are evil for providing jobs, helping people train and improve their life style. Man, we must disband these evil organizations.
Drug companies are the product of the business environemnt, it has nothing to do with Republican or Dems.
Kaleem Bhai, war effects me personally, especially when it is waged in my name and through my tax dollars. I haven't quiet investigated the social security fiasco but I can say with confidence that Republican policies on medical care for Americans are far from being 'moral'.
PA, when was the last time it was proven that increasing minimum wage increases the living standard? Please provide some solid figures for that. That is okay you dont have any. Illegal immigration…its been the topic that is a sore spot, his hands are tied due to the liberal organizations such ACLU. If he ever to deport all the illegals, you liberals will be the first one to cry …injustice, they have the right to be here. So please stop the hypocrisy. Corporations provide jobs, my friend. How many american citizens do you employ? The bankruptcy laws were tightened because too many people were taking advantage of it. Rise in medical expenses has nothing to do with Reps or Dems so pcik another fight.
Condi, Powell and Kaleem may not be white males, but don't fool yourself... the party is definitely run by this WASP group and their policies reflect that demographic.
Just because I am against corporate welfare doesn't mean I am anti-business or not pro-capitalism. Drug companies and insurance companies are darlings of the Republicans, it has much more to do than just a 'business environment'.
Ahmadjee, bhaijan how do you feel when your tax dollars are used to help someone who thinks that its their right to get the money? How do you feel when your tax dollars are used to promote sexual promiscous behavior? How do you feel when your tax dollars are used to print the state literature in two langauges? How do you feel when your hospiatl district says that they are broke because of supporting all the “undocumented immigrants”…and they cannot refuse because a liberal organization by the name of ACLU will sue them. This indeed is a sad day, when the word “illegal” has lost its meaning.
I guess your first comment is on welfare and food stamps, right?
But if it is immoral to let Shivo die through starvation isn't it also immoral to let a homeless die for the same reason?
I didn't get your sexual promiscuous behavior part but I hope you are not talking about Fox Channel and I certainly hope they are not getting my tax dollars.
And I think it is perfectly moral to help the needy, especially when they are ill or pregnent, even if they are the undocumented immigrants.
You understood correctly. I also hope that your analysis is correct. i.e. that it will blow over.
You other guys and gals…I didn’t want to start a general arguments over Democratic liberalism vs. Republican conservatism.
My point was that the Schiavo case should never have been presented as a moral liberal versus conservative argument. Decisions on pulling the plug or feeding tubes are faced by many American families and we don’t want these decisions politicized or turned into moral arguments. The overwhelming majority of Americans believe these are personal family choices and regardless of what decision is made (to pull or not to pull), the person making the decision is not immoral.
In this case, I heard many good arguments on why the husband should not have been the appropriate one to make the choice for Terri. Unfortunately, these arguments got totally pushed into the background because a whole bunch of lunatics were screaming and shouting about how immoral it was to remove the feeding tube. They made it sound like you could not be a good conservative unless you also believed it to be immoral to remove the plug. In doing so, they just plain lost a lot of Americans.
I doubt that this move will impact the Republican Majority. The fact is that these political storms come and go with time. The shift towards conservatism in the US is a fundamental, grassroots movement. You will not see a chance in the direction of this movement until basic values in middle America change.
Relax, myvoice, it will be ok. Even Bill O'Reilly has an issue (death penalty) that differs from the conservative platform. Now you can say you are independent or 'fair and balanced', because you don't tow the party line. It was bound to happen one day, not everyone can be Sean Hannity.
Well I have always voted democrat and consider my self a liberal. I even voted democrat when muslim Americans felt an obligation to vote republican, but let me tell you this much. This had been an eye opener. Never again would I vote for those liberal right to die activists. There are reason this case caught momentum in US media. Its not because 200 million Americans are stupid, its because they are socially and politically aware, and its not the religious right but the far left that has politicized the whole event. To start off with Mike Schiavo’s attorney George Fellos is an Right to die rather Euphanasia activist since ever. He is an author of various books on the subject, when did he join the whole event? in the past three weeks no!!! The doctor who examined Terri named Dr. Cranford or Cranfield is another euphanasia activist. You know what worries me is the while a woman was losing her life ppl were busy in discussing whether its an encroachment by Congress on Judicial powers. Crap. Yep this is a land of law but it is also the land of people, free people read the preamble of the constitution it starts with WE THE PEOPLE…
I think basic values in middle america are changing and moving towards right. As far as the polls are concerned look at how they ask the question and what options are provided. Its a scam. Majority of americans are pro life.
The right to die issue is not an issue of values though for middle America. That's what's wrong with the way this whole thing came down.
As a people, we long ago accepted, in overwhelming majorities, that people can have a living will and express whether or not they wish to receive various medical procedures (including feeding tubes, ventilators, etc.). It is only a fringe minority who might not recognize that right to die. I am conservative and Republican and absolutely reject any notion that my wish not to be kept alive by ventilator or feeding tube if I am in a persistant vegitative state or irreversible coma can be disregarded.
The Schiavo case should not have been discussed in the context of the right to life. The issue is who, if anyone, has the right to make that decision for and on behalf of someone who did not express their intent in a written document before they became incompetent.
Had the fringe minority acted responsibly and framed the debate on the real issue, Terri Schiavo might still be alive and being fed today. I'm sure there are a lot of people like me who accept the right to die, accept the general rule that a husband should be the presumptive candidate to make this decision on behalf of an incompetent wife who failed to write a living will and yet heard enough facts to indicate that maybe Terri's husband should not have been the one to make this decision for her in this case. Unfortunately, reasoned and logical argument was drowned out by fringe groups wanting to talk about morals.
Your definition of liberal rather close-minded IMHO.
Though I suppose I must admit that my opinion regarding present republican politicians not all that positive either.
The present republican majority appear to favor big business and the upper echelons of society. Recall that the president said exporting jobs is good for the economy…
Good for corporate profit…
Good for those corporations able to delay paying taxes on funds outside the country…Good for those corporations recieving monetary gain maintaining off shore business’ subsidized by American taxpayers..some who have lost jobs due to outsourcing.
What about social security reform? The billions that stock traders and investment bankers expect to gain…and the trillions it will cost American taxpayers…which IMHO add to the presumed SSI deficit…the deficit that Bush admits to not having budgeted for in his plan…
WS stands to make huge gains.. government should not enrich stock traders at the expense of taxpayers. And why should Americans even trust wallstreet? Think about all the stock fraud in recent years…
Cheney on CNN mentioning that those who die before collecting SSI not ever gaining benefit … you can leave to your heirs…but…if so..where is the money gona come from for those that survive to old age?
Always been pay as you go…
There used to be excess funds… seems that our beloved politicians have been spending those funds…and not just the republicans…but..this administration responsible for largest expenditures in history…what happend to the frugal republicans?
Here I have no problem with my SSI tax monies being earkmarked to a fund that I choose…but this IMHO should be an account established from funds other than the funds earkmarked as SSI tax…
A small percentage (2%) or so in addition to base SSI taxes. … and cost of these accounts should be absorbed by wallstreet..not taxpayers…
Why do you have a problem with welfare and heathcare for the poor? A healthy nation is a profitable nation.
I agree. Too much politics and too little real values discussed. I think that her parents might also be partly to blame for not sticking to essentials.
For instance, why allowing the women to die of hunger and thirst and not do it cleanly with an injection. Apparently murderers get a better deal…
