You do realize if pagans of Meccah had same rule as you are professing then early followers of islam wud have been executed there and then and there would have been nothing like Islam as you know as of today....
Well if you measure by the amount of be-rehmi and zulum on innocents, you will not find too much difference between pagans and modern day "enforcers of Islam".
In fact pagans were a bit less zalim, as you conclude, and that's why early Muslims survived.
You do realize if pagans of Meccah had same rule as you are professing then early followers of islam wud have been executed there and then and there would have been nothing like Islam as you know as of today....
The Pagans of Mecca did indeed have the same rule, and did indeed try to exterminate Muslims from Arabia.
What is your point?
nah bro you are wrong.
If you change religions you have caused treason and therefore are to be executed.
Well, maybe in Taliban version of Islam, but not the real Islam that I know & practice.
BTW, Taliban are not Muslims. They're pagans & terrorists.
Well, maybe in Taliban version of Islam, but not the real Islam that I know & practice.
BTW, Taliban are not Muslims. They're pagans & terrorists.
I must admit that the overwhelming arguments across Pakistan is against the Taliban, and rightfully so. However, there is a good thing about the Taliban and that's the execution of Muslim who become non Muslims.
You may try and liberalize Islam with your words but Allah has given us the law through his books, do you not believe in Allah's book?
Takbeer: ALLAHU AKHBAR!
Lol! :biggthumb
Re: Sarkozy says burqas are 'not welcome' in France
Personally the niqab is too much. The niqab might not be violating any dress code but it is violating anti-social behaviour laws. It violates the very same laws that stop me from wearing a ski mask or a hoddie over my face all day while at work!
Personally the niqab is too much. The niqab might not be violating any dress code but it is violating anti-social behaviour laws. It violates the very same laws that stop me from wearing a ski mask or a hoddie over my face all day while at work!
astaghfirullah, comparing niqab o a hoodie? tobah. tsk tsk.
I must admit that the overwhelming arguments across Pakistan is against the Taliban, and rightfully so. However, there is a good thing about the Taliban and that's the execution of Muslim who become non Muslims.
You may try and liberalize Islam with your words but Allah has given us the law through his books, do you not believe in Allah's book?
Takbeer: ALLAHU AKHBAR!
Why do you want to believe that Talban's laws nad rulings are in accordance with Islamic teachings?
Well if you measure by the amount of be-rehmi and zulum on innocents, you will not find too much difference between pagans and modern day "enforcers of Islam".
In fact pagans were a bit less zalim, as you conclude, and that's why early Muslims survived.
All pagans asked is that not to abuse their gods.. and very fact that at one place Muhamamd warns his followers not to abuse their gods lest they might abuse allah tells me abuses were hurled..
Even after abusing these guys survived doesn't it tell you that pagans were tolerant people.. Even in this day and age despite presence of media and all those human rights watch NGO you would not be able to find even single muslim majoroity nation where anyone can live to see another day after abusing allah ..
My verdict is all those cock and bull story of persecution by pagans remain unfounded and can't be supported by logic
The Pagans of Mecca did indeed have the same rule, and did indeed try to exterminate Muslims from Arabia.
What is your point?
Tell me how then a dozen people survived without being harmed for close to thirettn years amongst pagans of Meccah.. How hard it would have bene to kill a dozen people..
You are making all the persecution story up just to justify what pagans faced when they were vanquished.
Re: Sarkozy says burqas are 'not welcome' in France
I ask everyone should peopel in west now treat muslim converst exactly the way you guys are advocating converts from muslim relgion be treated....
Keep all the lame alibis about how that wud be immoral flowing
Well, maybe in Taliban version of Islam, but not the real Islam that I know & practice.
BTW, Taliban are not Muslims. They're pagans & terrorists.
Spot on, no more excuses - simple Taliban are non-Muslim ..21st century khariji's.. that's all !
that’s what you expect from low life talibani influenced minds.. :chai: ..
i dont see Iran and Saudi Arabia proclaiming to be the patrons of “freedom” (read: satanism) … do you?
last time i checked: Talibans are doing it… so do you? 
Personally the niqab is too much. The niqab might not be violating any dress code but it is violating anti-social behaviour laws. It violates the very same laws that stop me from wearing a ski mask or a hoddie over my face all day while at work!
too much? Wait till Munkar and Nakir visit you in the grave. Your definition of "too-much" is bound to change.
The Niqab, by the opinion of majority of the jurisits, is madatory; not recommended (although a minority does say so), not cultural, not "too-much"....
It is part of the Deen that was revealed upon the Prophet. Defaming a part of the Deen is like defaming the whole of the Deen, and if you're a muslim you should know the fate of the one who defames the Deen of Allah.
It is part of the Deen that was revealed upon the Prophet. Defaming a part of the Deen is like defaming the whole of the Deen, and if you're a muslim you should know the fate of the one who defames the Deen of Allah.
Look Abu Sharaabi - Which deen your are talking about? Created by some ISI/CIA agents behind the brick walls and having glass of wines .. that one ?
We the people of Pakistan accept our "ghatiyaan" of creating Taliban but didn't dispose them. But now we will make sure, every single one of them is vanished from the face of earth .. just like that !...
Fear the people of Pakistan, we are just killing you yet.. not hanging your bodies on the Swat Main Chowk..
Re: Sarkozy says burqas are 'not welcome' in France
...while sitting in new york?
Btw. how did taliban and swat sneak into the discussion of the ruling of Niqab in Islam? Are you so obsessed with them that you cant stop talking about them?
...while sitting in new york?
Btw. how did taliban and swat sneak into the discussion of the ruling of Niqab in Islam? Are you so obsessed with them that you cant stop talking about them?
Coz Genius all of this backlashing happened because of your lovely talibanic ideology starting to chop off heads & suicide attacks around the world...
anyway. your this .. niqab.. thingy is not part of Mainstream muslims, .. yeh things who live in caves do like it.. so be like that way. .but don't enforce on us !
Coz Genius all of this backlashing happened because of your lovely talibanic ideology starting to chop off heads & suicide attacks around the world...
If you gonna talk about going back to the roots we will go to Jerusalem. Who opressed who first ?!
anyway. your this .. niqab.. thingy is not part of Mainstream muslims, .. yeh things who live in caves do like it.. so be like that way. .but don't enforce on us !
Mainstream or shortstream...the Prophet's wives used to cover their faces. And this is enough evidence.