And when non-Indians are writing the articles with some degree of objectivity:
In the village of Samboora, residents said that Indian Army troops went from house to house on Saturday morning, rounding up families and taking them to a polling station.
Unlike you WSJ doesn't relate objectivity to one's nationality or origin :D
The reporter is just reporting what a "resident" told him ........ he never says he saw the act .... in any case WSJ made up with a follow up article about the change in ground reality in Kashmir.
The turn out in elections has forced hurriyat to come out with statements like .... people are voting for bijli, pani ...... hey they get that without electing anyone so what is new !!!!!
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Grasping at straws, and nothing more.
Here is something from Geelani sahab … Local press !!
‘It’s verdict for grievances not aspirations of Kashmiris’
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Chairman of Hurriyat Conference, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, also termed the verdict for development. Geelani said the mainstream parties contested the elections with the promise of providing basic amenities to the people. “Undoubtedly people voted but they voted for water, electricity and employment. But their franchise has no bearing on the ongoing freedom movement,” Geelani said
OOps did he say people “voted” … i though they were forced to 
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This is what happens when the painfully uninformed are given google and allowed to selectively post this and that.
If you actually had any idea what you were talking about (which you so obviously don't) you'd realize that the whole "bijli sarak pani" nonsense comes from a NC campaign slogan...back when Omar Abdullah was making his rounds through the villages telling people that the elections were about development and not Kashmir's final status. Geelani didn't come up with that...he took it straight from the pro-India camp's rhetorhic.
Like I said, grasping at straws.
So i guess he himself was tired of the same “forced voting” rhetoric … or he was worried that the people will see through him if he says the same thing
Meanwhile … the other Hurriyat planned some introspection … because of the “elections” … guess why they were bothered about this “unfair” and “not free” elections
The assembly elections came as a rude shock to the pro-freedom leaders, but there is a silver lining. The Hurriyat (M) has started reforms, saying these reforms were inevitable. To begin with the leaders have been asked to work at the grassroots level, and rather than staying in the city, move to villages and make the conglomerate strong
I wonder why he said that … what was so different this time … so what is your take on this … is he on Indian pay rolls
Chairman Mirwaiz Umar Farooq told that after the recent polls there was a need for introspection and restructuring of Hurriyat had become inevitable
Oh only local press … and you know they are “local boys”
Greater Kashmir Daily English Newspaper from Kashmir Srinagar, Kashmiri, Kashmir news Kashmir Discussion Forum, Kashmir Tour, Srinagar,Book hotel in Kashmir, Kashmir Bazaar, kashmir SMS, All about kashmir, Kashmir Gifts, Kashmir Websites, Great Kashm
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Do you care to point out where I claimed that every single voter was forced to vote?
As far as I recall, all I said was there were plenty of reports of forced voting when one of your similarly uninformed compatriots tried to call Kashmiri elections free and democratic. Again, a little bit of selective googling just demonstrated how incredibly uninformed you are. Both Geelani and the Mirwaiz issued statements on voter coercion being used to boost turnout statistics.
In any case, care to explain why voter turnout was a pathetic 28% in Kashmir during the general elections?
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As far as I recall, all I said was there were plenty of reports of forced voting when one of your similarly uninformed compatriots tried to call Kashmiri elections free and democratic. Again, a little bit of selective googling just demonstrated how incredibly uninformed you are. Both Geelani and the Mirwaiz issued statements on voter coercion being used to boost turnout statistics.
For your "plenty" of reports ... you had a WSJ article where the reporter had "heard" some locals complain .... while as in their latter reporting WSJ felt the voters in Kashmir had defied the sepratists by voting in large numbers.......
Both Geelani and Mirwaiz had to accept ..... people did vote ... hence the need for "introspection" ....
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The reports from the Kashmiri media have been taken down, they don't archive that far back.
Answer the question...since you've clearly decided that we all love India and its brutal occupation forces so much, why did only 28% of Kashmiris vote in the general elections?
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likely reason for turnout being low in certain parts is they are scared of militants. What's so surprising about that?
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yawn
The occupation government claims that militant activity is at an all time low. Now you expect me to believe that the militant/bogeyman situation has changed so dramatically over the past 5 months that it accounts for the nearly 50% drop in turnout between state and general assembly elections?
I don't even think you're deluded enough to believe that.
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a threat is a threat andlooking at what the jihadis are able to do at will in neighboring Pakistan, it is understandable that people don't want to take avoidable risks.
You just seem intent on endlessly arguing and callinh other delusional without the ability to comprehend a single fact or argument that doesn't align with your prejudiced mind.
Go right along and keep misleading yourself. I have said whatever I wanted to say and facts stand on their own
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Ah...I see.
So you believe that there was no terrorist activity in Pakistan 6 months ago...a
and that's why turnout fell by nearly 50%.
Thanks again for demonstrating just how much you're willing to mislead yourself.
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terrorist attacks in Pakistan have become much higher profile within past year. peopel within and outside Pakistan finally realized that the threat is not limited to some far away mountain or border of Afghanistan. And that the agencies of the Pakistan government including the army are utterly not controlling or defeating these elements.
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We're talking about the past 6 months or so, not the past year. And I'm sure I don't need to point out the fact that some of the highest profile terrorist attacks in Pakistani history occurred in the weeks leading up to the statel assembly elections (including the Islamabad Marriott bombing, and the Orakzai boming), not to mention the Bombay attacks. It hardly seems plausible that an LeT attack on Indian soil, killing 170+ people, didn't scare off the 51% who allegedly voted in the state assembly elections...but some alleged rise in terrorist activity in Pakistan since then has so dramatically destroyed voter turnout in Kashmir a couple months later. I probably should also point out that there were actually fewer civilian deaths due to terrorism in Pakistan during the recent Lok Sabha elections than there were during the state assembly elections (411 during April/May, 2009 vs 503 during November/December, 2008).
But thats all besides the point. You, despite in all likelihood never having met an actual Kashmiri before, let alone set foot in Kashmir, are now pretending to know why we do and don't vote. It's hardly surprising that the best excuses you can come up with are patently absurd.
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In any case, care to explain why voter turnout was a pathetic 28% in Kashmir during the general elections?
The voting percentage in the state was around 40% .... even Baramullah had 40% voting .... it is only in the two parliamentry seats of Srinagar and Anantnag that there was polling percentage of around 28% .... so now you agree that the "sepratists" have some "influence" in only two sements of the whole of the state of Jammu & Kahsmir .... that will be a start !!!!
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The ECI claims that turnout was allegedly 20% in Srinagar, 26% in Islamabad, and a little less than 40% in Baramulla...those are the only three constituencies that fall into Kashmir. Taking into account the sizes of each constituency, it all averages out to 28% turnout in Kashmir.
It's also important to note that Baramulla is also the constituency from which Sajjad Lone ran...if he hadn't run, the 16% who voted for him probably wouldn't have voted either.
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^ pathetic analysis. the guys lost his deposit and you're talking as if his vote bank had significance.
But it is quite clever the way you slither away from significant facts that don't suit your taste and just magnify the little trivia, such as the vote bank of a guy who lost his deposit.
get a life
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LOL
Let me get this straight...the addition of an unexpected candidate to the fray in the only Kashmiri constituency that didn't totally reject the polls...that had no impact on voter turnout. But terrorist violence levels in Pakistan that have remained largely unchanged between the local and general elections, somehow created enough of a threat in Kashmiri psyche that our turnout dropped by nearly 50% over those 6 months. Talk about absurly pathetic analysis.
In any case, I agree that Sajjad Lone's vote bank was insignificant. Even if we disregard his 65,000 votes, overall turnout in Kashmir drops from a whopping 28% to 26%. You're right...voter turnout in Kashmir is beyond pathetic no matter how you look at it.
In any case, I agree that Sajjad Lone's vote bank was insignificant. Even if we disregard his 65,000 votes, overall turnout in Kashmir drops from a whopping 28% to 26%. You're right...voter turnout in Kashmir is beyond pathetic no matter how you look at it.
And he was supposed to be the person to take the "voice of Kashmir" to the parliament ....... he had said that in his election campaign the "other" contestents were the "voice of India" in Kashmir ...... guess only 16% of the voters in Baramullah bought that ,....... rest voted for the "other" 84% !!!!!!
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Yeah...it might have actually meant something if 3/4 of the population hadn't rejected the polls outright...and if the separatists hadn't made it abundantly clear in the days leading up to the polls that they wanted nothing to with his candidacy.
