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*....Saddam was far more effective Iraqi civilian killing machine than the US led coalition.
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1.5 million killed by US-enforced sanctions... that's a pretty damn good civilian killing machine.
UN supported sanctions.
And in the end blame Saddam for the deaths, not the sanctions.
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When exactly do you plan to give up this position, cz its been exposed as completely bogus. Your peers are now bandishing a "brutal dictator" line... atleast go along with that, and not insult the collective intelligence of the readers here.
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Sorry, but the type of guy who lobbed scuds into Israel and paid the families of suicide bombers would not hesitate for an INSTANT to give WMD to a terrorist group. The few intelligent readers/posters here wil recognize that same fact.
Except he did not had any WMD now, did not had them for many years, and the last time he lobbed the lame scuds in Israel was in 1991 in a desperate attempt to expand the first gulf war.
Sorry but the type of people that sell arms to two opposing countries in a war, drop atomic bombs on civilians and support repressive regimes would not hestitate to lie and decieve the masses to invade a country for financial gain.
The few intelligent posters/readers would recognise this fact.
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And in the end blame Saddam for the deaths...
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So Saddam asked the US military to kill more than 10,000 Iraqi civilians in the last 10 months? I suppose you would call that a "bonus" for the Iraqi people?
Btw, still wondering if you know if a pair of golden spurs was found in any of Saddam's palaces or holes, when the US military moved in?
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**And in the end blame Saddam for the deaths, not the sanctions.
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Deja vu.
i blame Georgey for what he was able to do, within his capacity, to end the sanctions entirely. He chose not to do that and instead used civilians as pawns in his bloody chess games. i blame him for that.
^ What is it? Every time someone holds someone else's feet to the fire to offer a bit of proof/evidence to support a claim, they turn around and claim they are being personally attacked. It is your statements and logic I am attacking Nadia, not you. And, in this thread YOU have chosen to do the internet equivalent of SHOUTING your position and claims.
Nadia, You ignore 14 years of raw intelligence and intelligence assessments. That is fact. What did GWB claim that his predecessors did not also believe and claim based upon the same and similar intelligence Nadia? And tell me which claim that GWB made was contrary to the intelligence assessments he received.
If you can do that, you have some basis for claiming GWB lied. If you can't, well...you've got nothing but an opinion that derives from something other than logic and fact. And if that is all it is, fine...you're free to express it. But I'm free to expose that opinion for what it is.
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Sorry, but the type of guy who lobbed scuds into Israel...
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I didn't see you issue any condemnation when the demographically doomed Zionist entity launched an unprovoked military attack against Iraq in the early 1980's?
Like for like baby...
I might have, but I was in Jr High and I was more interested in getting to 2nd base.
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Sorry but the type of people that sell arms to two opposing countries in a war, drop atomic bombs on civilians and support repressive regimes would not hestitate to lie and decieve the masses to invade a country for financial gain
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Chota, it's spelled "deceive". Like I told you once before, the simple rule to remember is "i before e except after c".
BTW, who did Bush drop a-bombs on? I didn't watch Fox news today.
What “raw intelligence” ?
Yo take a chill pill people let the american right wingers let off steam they went to war on a lie and now trying to twist it by saying it not about WMDs and the iraqis in love with them.
Let the delusioned remain delusional!
As for Bushey the big liar he got as much credability as one of those Enron Executives!
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Chota, it's spelled "deceive". Like I told you once before, the simple rule to remember is "i before e except after c".
BTW, who did Bush drop a-bombs on? I didn't watch Fox news today.
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I'm glad you're focussing on the important part of the message and not in any way shying away from the issues at hand :)
There's no decieving me.
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:nono: Now, now, we all know the Enron execs didn’t really lie. Just like Georgey, they were just broadening the horizons of the technical accuracy of their statements. Let’s put it in PR speak so we don’t offend anyone.
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I'm glad you're focussing on the important part of the message and not in any way shying away from the issues at hand :)
There's no decieving me.
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Don't worry Chota, Stu... is not alone when it comes to such a thing amongst neo-conservative supporting American's.
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I'm glad you're focussing on the important part of the message and not in any way shying away from the issues at hand
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Focusing has a single "s", and the only reason I didn't respond to the issues at hand (ie 20-40 year old issues) is because I was waiting until you pulled the "american indian genocide" trump card. Please tell me it's forthcoming?
Say that you've pulled it and the trump card too. I still place the rape of Africa more highly though.
Now what?
You even remembered what the point was? Take a look at the title for the thread and get back to me.
hmm really?! 
and your first language is?
Chota, you are aware that Bush was not in office when A-bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, right? Nor was he commander in chief during Iran-Contra scandal so far as I know.
So how to these actions correlate to your claims of decEit in the Bush administration? Are you saying the US is an "evil empire"? (roll the scary ho-ho-ho-hoo-hahaha track)
my 1st language is english, the real version that gets rid of extraneous letters like "u" and "s" where it should, and properly applies "z's" instead of s's.
England is now our b!tch remember? so you must also comply with the correct spellings